Maura Murray

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I don't remember hearing that anyone used cadaver dogs except when searching the ponds.
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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Well I was hoping to not be overly graphic but you are clearly clueless. I have documented with pictures the destruction of a deer about human size on property I had access to. It would be no different with a human. The body is ripped up and pulled a good distance the first night. The internal organs are generally eaten first. The body is pulled ever farther then next night because it is much lighter. The second night most of the flesh is consumed and generally speaking only the spine and attached head is left being that the appendages are torn off and pulled in different directions. The third night the head and spine are dragged a pretty fair distance 100 yards or so from their last location. From there the rest of the skeleton is disassembled and scattered. There is little to no smell in this case, especially if the temperatures are low. I also came across a frozen half eaten carcass of a very large deer in the Adirondack right next to the trail and near a camp. Never would have known it was there if I hadn't come across it by accident.
Search dogs search for what they are trained for. If they weren't cadaver dogs they wouldn't have probably found her because that wasn't what they were looking for. Most dogs are trained to exclude other scents. I don't remember hearing that anyone used cadaver dogs except when searching the ponds.
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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Well I was hoping to not be overly graphic but you are clearly clueless. I have documented with pictures the destruction of a deer about human size on property I had access to. It would be no different with a human. The body is ripped up and pulled a good distance the first night. The internal organs are generally eaten first. The body is pulled ever farther then next night because it is much lighter. The second night most of the flesh is consumed and generally speaking only the spine and attached head is left being that the appendages are torn off and pulled in different directions. The third night the head and spine are dragged a pretty fair distance 100 yards or so from their last location. From there the rest of the skeleton is disassembled and scattered. There is little to no smell in this case, especially if the temperatures are low. I also came across a frozen half eaten carcass of a very large deer in the Adirondack right next to the trail and near a camp. Never would have known it was there if I hadn't come across it by accident.
Search dogs search for what they are trained for. If they weren't cadaver dogs they wouldn't have probably found her because that wasn't what they were looking for. Most dogs are trained to exclude other scents. I don't remember hearing that anyone used cadaver dogs except when searching the ponds.
Bill

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Snowy wrote:

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no, no, no. we're talking Amherst.
if Haverhill, hypothermia.
if Amherst, her death may have occurred there, and her body may have been disposed of in MA, or elsewhere, but not necessarily in NH.
...and her car may have been separately transported to Haverhill to divert from what occurred in Amherst or surrounds.

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Not So wrote:

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Found this
Footprints in the snow
By Brian McGrory, Globe Columnist, 2/27/2004
Authorities sent a heat-seeking helicopter along the treetops as recently as yesterday. They used dogs to try to trace her steps away from the accident scene. They dispatched cadaver-sniffing canin
http://www.projectjason.org/forums/index.php... into the forest, all to no avail

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Rod wrote:

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If it always happens as you say it does then no person who goes missing in the wilderness would ever be found. Yet, people are found months, years later.

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Tom wrote:

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How am I clueless? You just state the body is ripped up. Like what do the animals do rip it up into easy to carry pieces? There would be evidence of a body being ripped up. Someone just stated that they used dogs to smell for dead bodies. If an animal can smell her dead body then so should a trained dog. Where as this theory of "animals breaking her up into easy to carry pieces without leaving a trace" is plausable I think it is doubtful. I thought we were focusing on more likely scenarios.

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whitenoise wrote:

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Anne mistaken??? You've got to be kidding. Has anyone ever figured out what Anner the Scanner, the diaper-wearing, trailer-dwelling scanner lady was saying? Several of us have read her many posts over and over telling us what she heard on her little toy scanner. And we can't make heads or tails out of it. And furthermore because of the mountains her police scanner in VT probably did not even reach the relevant part of NH. Scanners are line-of-sight.

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Snowy wrote:

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another young woman.

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

OK,
Here´s a question for you all:
Who can seriously dispute the fact that the last publicly known, reliable ID of Maura is that of Officer Mark Ruddock, of the Hadley,MA, PD after Maura crashed her father´s car in the middle of the night?
Thanks.

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Captain Jack wrote:

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This seems very plausible to me.

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Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>One small caveat. If the officer responding to the Corolla crash positively identified her, and then he, so to speak, handed her off to the tow truck driver, and, especially if she used AAA for the tranport to the motel, then I guess the tow truck driver would be the last one, but that's not truly as solid as the ID by a police officer.
Having said that, it's very possible that Maura was not driving the Corolla when it crashed. Because... If she was familiar with the route, then she would probably not have run the stop sign and crashed into the guardrail opposite the end of N. Hadley Rd. Unless her driving was impaired, which can happen from too much alcohol - among other things.
If she had never driven the N. Hadley Rd. route, then she probably would have taken University Dr to Russell St to the motel. That's the normal route you would take from SW to the motel. I drive these roads every day, so I'm very familiar with local habits.
So... If Maura was not driving the Corolla, who was?
And, to throw out another really tiny caveat, it's possible - very unlikely, but possible - that someone who merely looked like Maura and who had borrowed her license was at the scene. But that seems very, very unlikely.
Therefore, I think it probable that Maura was either quite impaired or was not driving the Corolla when it crashed. Which brings up two questions: Who was driving the Corolla? And/or why was Maura not arrest for operating under?

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WTH-the-original wrote:

Maura was seen by the school bus driver at the accident scene.
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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I have never known and very few people do know where they searched and what assets they deployed and how. I don't suspect that Maura was anywhere near the car close enough that cadaver dogs would have found her. If we believe CW then she was miles from the car.
It took three years to find a Lear jet that was with and extensive search. It was eventually found by accident. Humans do and have disappeared in the Whites, some for years, some for many decades.
Bill

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Jwb wrote:

The video of Maura buying alcohol and or at the atm was the last known sighting.

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Captain Jack wrote:

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This seems very plausible to me.