mcsmom
Hebron, CT
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Beagle wrote: <quoted text> Which doesn't mean the financial industry waited around to be commanded by a state legislature to protect themselves. It just means that the state, L84AD8, decided to invite themselves to the party. I'm also skeptical of this trash room notion. I think Kennedy is about 20 stories tall. About 5,000 students live in SW. That's a lot of trash. I would be surprised if UMass Physical Plant allowed students to rummage through the waste before it gets placed in the compactor. But maybe they do. Hell of a way to find cc receipts. IDK lots of things to ponder..... I think Maura had an inkling something was up after the Carolla crash, which may have been the reason Billy thought something more than the crash was bothering her. Perhaps there was a really good reason why she picked up the accident report in person....if she did. The ATM, the liquor store...the computer searches...
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hannah_b
Sweden
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Wonder what happened to the blogpost Renner was going to post about Maura talking to someone about her plans to leave the weekend before disappearing.
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text> She disappeared forever because she went from someone driving to get away for a while to someone who decided to commit suicide because she saw her entire life crumbling before her because of a drunk driving conviction that made all the other offenses kick in which she might have thought meant the end of her nursing career. All those plans, with Billy, the nursing profession which allowed her to be hired anywhere, the good job, everything, down the tubes. Because of a drunk driving charge. Bill Bill I don't think that happens that quickly. I don't think she crashed her car and to avoid a DUI killed herself. Suicide is usually a premeditated event not a spontaneous event.
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FrmLE
Saint Cloud, FL
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jwb wrote: <quoted text> Tom, you or no one else here on Topix has any idea what Fred shared with LE about Maura nor do you know what Fred was privy to. That's not exactly correct.
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mcsmom
Hebron, CT
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text> She disappeared forever because she went from someone driving to get away for a while to someone who decided to commit suicide because she saw her entire life crumbling before her because of a drunk driving conviction that made all the other offenses kick in which she might have thought meant the end of her nursing career. All those plans, with Billy, the nursing profession which allowed her to be hired anywhere, the good job, everything, down the tubes. Because of a drunk driving charge. Bill What if Ruddock let her go on purpose because they were following her? What if she were being coerced? What if she knew this and was trying to get away?
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jwb
Portland, ME
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text> She disappeared forever because she went from someone driving to get away for a while to someone who decided to commit suicide because she saw her entire life crumbling before her because of a drunk driving conviction that made all the other offenses kick in which she might have thought meant the end of her nursing career. All those plans, with Billy, the nursing profession which allowed her to be hired anywhere, the good job, everything, down the tubes. Because of a drunk driving charge. Bill Bill, a couple pages ago you told me that you didn't by the suicide theory? Did someone steal your Moniker?
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jwb
Portland, ME
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FrmLE wrote: <quoted text> That's not exactly correct. Interested in what you have to add to that.
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Beagle
Shelburne Falls, MA
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text> IDK lots of things to ponder..... I think Maura had an inkling something was up after the Carolla crash, which may have been the reason Billy thought something more than the crash was bothering her. Perhaps there was a really good reason why she picked up the accident report in person....if she did. The ATM, the liquor store...the computer searches... She picked up a police accident report completed by Ruddock? If so, then she picked it up at the Hadley PD, which I think was located on East St. then (still is), but maybe not. IIRC, that report was completed and filed on the day she disappeared. Ruddock says "driver inattention," not icy roads. Not sure how that would affect insurance. But why all the attention paid by police to the Corolla in N. Amherst? If Maura had an inkling that something was up, what do you think that inkling might have been? Maybe I'm not following you.
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FrmLE
Saint Cloud, FL
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> Bill I don't think that happens that quickly. I don't think she crashed her car and to avoid a DUI killed herself. Suicide is usually a premeditated event not a spontaneous event. That's too simplistic, get DUI kill myself. Mental illness, depression and suicide is a complex dynamic that builds over a long time due to many many things in a persons life. It builds, sometimes it fades and then builds again. No one knows all the things in a persons mind, the hurt or suffering. One things is for sure there is always a catalyst, something happens to push someone over the edge. Maybe a car crash, boyfriend cheating, school, money whatever. The catalyst event is rarely significant enough to say, yep if I crashed my car is kill myself too! Look at the big picture, the whole dynamic and not just focus on the pizza, wine and car crash.
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Beagle
Shelburne Falls, MA
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text> What if Ruddock let her go on purpose because they were following her? What if she were being coerced? What if she knew this and was trying to get away? Who was following her? Why? Coerced? For what reason? Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand. Maybe if you could be a little more specific, I get what you're getting at. Thanks.
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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FrmLE wrote: <quoted text> That's too simplistic, get DUI kill myself. Mental illness, depression and suicide is a complex dynamic that builds over a long time due to many many things in a persons life. It builds, sometimes it fades and then builds again. No one knows all the things in a persons mind, the hurt or suffering. One things is for sure there is always a catalyst, something happens to push someone over the edge. Maybe a car crash, boyfriend cheating, school, money whatever. The catalyst event is rarely significant enough to say, yep if I crashed my car is kill myself too! Look at the big picture, the whole dynamic and not just focus on the pizza, wine and car crash. I think we all want your take on the comment you made to JWB about no one knows what Fred told LE of Maura's disappearance.
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Beagle
Shelburne Falls, MA
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Beagle wrote: <quoted text>Who was following her? Why? Coerced? For what reason? Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand. Maybe if you could be a little more specific, I get what you're getting at. Thanks. Sorry, should have written "...more specific, I WOULD get what you're getting at."
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FrmLE
Saint Cloud, FL
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I have read the file. He was very uncooperative with LE. Is this new info?
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mcsmom
Hebron, CT
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Beagle wrote: <quoted text> She picked up a police accident report completed by Ruddock? If so, then she picked it up at the Hadley PD, which I think was located on East St. then (still is), but maybe not. IIRC, that report was completed and filed on the day she disappeared. Ruddock says "driver inattention," not icy roads. Not sure how that would affect insurance. But why all the attention paid by police to the Corolla in N. Amherst? If Maura had an inkling that something was up, what do you think that inkling might have been? Maybe I'm not following you. Because she wasn't arrested and charged with DUI, she may have realized at that point that they were more interested in tracking her whereabouts...IMO.
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FrmLE
Saint Cloud, FL
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On wait Tom, werent you the one who came here a few weeks ago with no background on this case whatsoever? Yet you told me to "read up" then get back to you with my theory? Lol
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mcsmom
Hebron, CT
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Beagle wrote: <quoted text>Who was following her? Why? Coerced? For what reason? Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand. Maybe if you could be a little more specific, I get what you're getting at. Thanks. IDK..... in many ways it seems like NH was waiting for her. Cecil allegedly turned the wrong way on Rte112........Monaghan and lack of public interview etc etc.
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text> Because she wasn't arrested and charged with DUI, she may have realized at that point that they were more interested in tracking her whereabouts...IMO. If they wanted to track her whereabouts that could be done whether they gave her a DUI I or not.
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oo00oo
Tucson, AZ
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FrmLE wrote: <quoted text> Look at the big picture, the whole dynamic and not just focus on the pizza, wine and car crash. Thanks for your input, can you comment on the supposed atm or bank video? It seems that nobody other than Amherst PD or UMP has seen it. Thanks
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mcsmom
Hebron, CT
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> If they wanted to track her whereabouts that could be done whether they gave her a DUI I or not. Not if she were in jail.
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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FrmLE wrote: On wait Tom, werent you the one who came here a few weeks ago with no background on this case whatsoever? Yet you told me to "read up" then get back to you with my theory? Lol Actually I'm not trying to argue with you. You made a very strong statement that people wanted you to say more. I did want to hear your theory. I did want to hear what you had to say when jwb wrote : " No one knows what fred said to LE" and you replied back: "That isn't entirely true" were you just making this bold claim that you knew what he told LE because you wanted to collect icons or do you actually know what was said.
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