Maura Murray

Det Columbo wrote:

I think Bill is just some angry EMT from CT. who has nothing better to do than harass people. That is his MO.
John

He already said he was an engineer also and that explains alot.

Bill says " I have to go and do something more constructive"

Meanwhile back at the ranch Bill is changing his Moniker and name to FRMle. He tosses cold water on his face and gathers his persona and whala he is back again.

Snowey sighs with relief as she can now go do her nails and let FRMLE have it.

Wowzer is sitting in the wings to fill in the gap when Bill is changing his moniker.

jwb wrote:

Hi Columbo whats new?

Still shaking My head after yesterday.

John

jwb wrote:

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what is wrong with you people?(Bill,Wowzer,Snowey) This is a forum to discuss theories,ideas,possibilities etc .What don't you understand about that?
1)You start with a subject matter aka maura
2) you communicate with others cordially
3) you discuss the Subject matter
4) you discuss by sharing ideas and thoughts including all possible senarios
5) If it is to hard to get along and respect others or maybe you don't like the subject matter then maybe a forum is not for you
6) If it is not for you and you can't play nice then hit the red x in upper right of screen.

blah blah blah blah
now, boys and girls, we'll be attending a puppet show in the auditorium this afternoon. you may get in line after you hang up your coats in your cubbies. there will be no talking or clapping until i stand up and raise my hand. you may now line up at the door.


how i told you lately how annoying you are? and have been?

i forgot to edit out the last line. love it. annoying as hell.

i've been dying to say....

shut up.

there....i said it.

Det Columbo wrote:

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Still shaking My head after yesterday.
John

I agree John, Very sad day of event for certain. Have you heard any udates at all?

Snowy wrote:

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blah blah blah blah
now, boys and girls, we'll be attending a puppet show in the auditorium this afternoon. you may get in line after you hang up your coats in your cubbies. there will be no talking or clapping until i stand up and raise my hand. you may now line up at the door.
how i told you lately how annoying you are? and have been?

what color did you do your nails? Firery red or bitchie Blue?

Snowy wrote:

i forgot to edit out the last line. love it. annoying as hell.
i've been dying to say....
shut up.
there....i said it.

oh oh you must hit the red x at the top of the screen Goodbye!

I think Bill is writing from a mental institution and just had to go to group therapy for his anger issues. just my own humble opinion, he'll be back soon to berate and upset some more people that are trying to help, don't worry, this forum is all he has to vent some nastiness.

Wow...

So, I've been reading this forum for about a week, and I suppose I'll have to dig further back into the annals to find anything to do with Maura. Apart from this recent youtube video scandal there isn't very much actual discussion as to what happened to her.(Now, I know I'm not nearly as clever as many of you, and, I enjoy a good forum-wit-battle as much as the next person) That said, I'm curious as to why so much text has been devoted to such trivial garbage. Surely there are SOME developments in the past eight years that deserve more of a discussion than whether "Bill" or whatever equally visible competitor is in fact the most clever.(Again, I'm new to these boards and while I've noticed clearly drawn team-lines, I am unclear as to which opposing team "leader" would be considered equal in terms of visibility. Give me a couple days to sift through some more of this junk and I'll amend my comment if that's necessary for you folks to catch my drift.)

As much as some of you complain about how we're re-hashing the same old details over and over, I fail to see how twenty pages of squabbles over whether a super broad case theory is significant or not, whether a certain poster is clever enough to meet your exceptional standards, or whether or not person x is an egomaniac- OVER AND OVER again is any less repetitive/useless. Yes, that one is directed partially at Bill, because as someone who isn't allied with any of you, and someone who is just as much a fan of logic, I can't say I'm especially impressed with what you've alternately proposed we discuss. In fact, I think an argument could be made that the alien abduction you've brought up to ridicule and diminish the Maura was abducted scenario would be a much more enlightening discussion than this one. Geesh.

That said, those of you on the opposing end of this "bore-cussion" aren't any better. You seriously think the best way to encourage discussing the case facts is to send a clone-rebuttal his way EVERY single time he posts something you consider to be counter-productive? It's one thing to say something once, but to repeat the same argument over and over again and hope for a different reaction, on a forum no less... Well, again, Geesh.

Anyways, enough of that. I suppose it's mildly entertaining in a flaccid sort of way so whatever you folks feel is the best use of your down time, I'll leave you to it.

Two quick points regarding the Maura Murray case/related news:

A)I don't necessarily think there is compelling evidence one way or the other- regarding whether or not Maura was abducted remains to be seen. A lack of evidence at the crime scene doesn't mean that Maura wasn't abducted, and there have been other cases in which it looked exactly like a drunk bailing from the scene which proved to be something else entirely. If you really think it wasn't an abduction, or vice versa I'd be interested to hear one way or the other. Although if you can, please identify any information obtained via Renner's site as I don't consider information he's obtained to be especially credible, apart from FOIA stuff and the Accident reports. If you're a big Renner buff then no worries, if you could just identify the source of whatever information you include in your "I surmise that scenario x took place", wherever it came from, that'd be very appreciated. This will also help in allowing others (newcomers and "resident logic-seekers" alike in determining whether or not your opinion has some merits, how you came to that conclusion, etc.)Obv nobody has to follow this suggestion, I just thought it might be nice for those of you interested in the case to back up your position and let us see how you got there, as well as offer a kind of timely review of the info available thus far. It might keep things from getting too-convoluted.

B) I think Renner's shady. I'll elaborate if anyone is interested

Well, thanks for your time, here's hoping I won't be met with exceptional hostility.

jwb wrote:

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what is wrong with you people?(Bill,Wowzer,Snowey) This is a forum to discuss theories,ideas,possibilities etc .What don't you understand about that?
1)You start with a subject matter aka maura
2) you communicate with others cordially
3) you discuss the Subject matter
4) you discuss by sharing ideas and thoughts including all possible senarios
5) If it is to hard to get along and respect others or maybe you don't like the subject matter then maybe a forum is not for you
6) If it is not for you and you can't play nice then hit the red x in upper right of screen.

LOLOLOL!!!! OMG!! What a hoot! You actually believe you are the Topix police patrol. You're telling people how they should communicate with others,what they can discuss,what the subject matter should be, how they should discuss,and then if they can't respect others and can't play nice they can hit the red X.
Are you in kindergarten or something? I at first thought you were an adult but I'm having second thoughts now.
I hate to break the news to you but this is a PUBLIC forum. You can't tell people what to do on it. It's PUBLIC. Get it? PUBLIC.
THat means it's NOT MODERATED. You are just a poster like everyone else so if the posts disturb you so much well...you know where the red X is.
Just read your post again and I can't stop laughing. Thanks for that, laughing is always good. Well most of the time.

laurieisgone wrote:

I think Bill is writing from a mental institution and just had to go to group therapy for his anger issues. just my own humble opinion, he'll be back soon to berate and upset some more people that are trying to help, don't worry, this forum is all he has to vent some nastiness.

I don't know what is the saddest. The incident yesterday or the group that wants to hijack the forum with nastiness and arrogance.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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LOLOLOL!!!! OMG!! What a hoot! You actually believe you are the Topix police patrol. You're telling people how they should communicate with others,what they can discuss,what the subject matter should be, how they should discuss,and then if they can't respect others and can't play nice they can hit the red X.
Are you in kindergarten or something? I at first thought you were an adult but I'm having second thoughts now.
I hate to break the news to you but this is a PUBLIC forum. You can't tell people what to do on it. It's PUBLIC. Get it? PUBLIC.
THat means it's NOT MODERATED. You are just a poster like everyone else so if the posts disturb you so much well...you know where the red X is.
Just read your post again and I can't stop laughing. Thanks for that, laughing is always good. Well most of the time.

Glad I made you laugh as the only intent was to show how silly it is that we just can't communicate with respect regardless of point of view.

*By we I meant people discussing the case, or vocalizing a wish to do so..

Also, just a quick edit: Bill, I'm not saying she was abducted and I'd be interested in hearing your opinions as to why scenario x didn't happen, but I think it's a mistake to just broadly declare that she was not abducted and to insinutate that anyone who thinks she could have been is an idiot. Nothing which I have had the chance to read by you is a clear sell one way or the other. Yes, interpretation of the crime scene would leave many to believe it was a voluntary fleeing, but that doesn't make it so. It's just one element. Anyways, again, I'm open to both sides here, and genuinely interested (not so much in crazy unsubstantiated garbage, but an eloquent and backed-up interpretation would be awesome)... Not to say you were making an unsubstantiated point, but many have... Anyways, yeah, so like I said I think it's a mistake to paint with such a big brush but I'm definitely not opposed, and in fact curious as to specific takes on the case. I think most newcomers would be, and heck it might actually solve that "Mirror, Mirror... Who's the most clever armchair detective of them all" question once and for all. I'm not suggesting anyone here will come anywhere close to solving the case, but surely some of you might enjoy the speculation. And for the more morally ambivalent folks out there, you could buy the person who comes closest breakfast or something when the case is solved. I jest. But seriously, it would put all of this online posturing to use- good or not, I can't say. But it has to be more productive than this.

jwb wrote:

Bill says " I have to go and do something more constructive"
Meanwhile back at the ranch Bill is changing his Moniker and name to FRMle. He tosses cold water on his face and gathers his persona and whala he is back again.
Snowey sighs with relief as she can now go do her nails and let FRMLE have it.
Wowzer is sitting in the wings to fill in the gap when Bill is changing his moniker.

You talk about others but you are the biggest instigater on this whole forum. You stated a while ago that you didn't want to read or reply to our posts but yet with just about every post one of us make you jump in to answer it with some snide comment. What are you here for?

Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>
LOLOLOL!!!! OMG!! What a hoot! You actually believe you are the Topix police patrol. You're telling people how they should communicate with others,what they can discuss,what the subject matter should be, how they should discuss,and then if they can't respect others and can't play nice they can hit the red X.
Are you in kindergarten or something? I at first thought you were an adult but I'm having second thoughts now.
I hate to break the news to you but this is a PUBLIC forum. You can't tell people what to do on it. It's PUBLIC. Get it? PUBLIC.
THat means it's NOT MODERATED. You are just a poster like everyone else so if the posts disturb you so much well...you know where the red X is.
Just read your post again and I can't stop laughing. Thanks for that, laughing is always good. Well most of the time.

looks like a few strayed away from an OWS encampment to occupy topix. tent dwellers taking up a new cause. MM.
the loooonnnnng posts are the hardest to get through. takes too much energy to reply.
got ourselves a zoo here.

vanderhoven wrote:

Wow...
So, I've been reading this forum for about a week, and I suppose I'll have to dig further back into the annals to find anything to do with Maura. Apart from this recent youtube video scandal there isn't very much actual discussion as to what happened to her.(Now, I know I'm not nearly as clever as many of you, and, I enjoy a good forum-wit-battle as much as the next person) That said, I'm curious as to why so much text has been devoted to such trivial garbage. Surely there are SOME developments in the past eight years that deserve more of a discussion than whether "Bill" or whatever equally visible competitor is in fact the most clever.(Again, I'm new to these boards and while I've noticed clearly drawn team-lines, I am unclear as to which opposing team "leader" would be considered equal in terms of visibility. Give me a couple days to sift through some more of this junk and I'll amend my comment if that's necessary for you folks to catch my drift.)
As much as some of you complain about how we're re-hashing the same old details over and over, I fail to see how twenty pages of squabbles over whether a super broad case theory is significant or not, whether a certain poster is clever enough to meet your exceptional standards, or whether or not person x is an egomaniac- OVER AND OVER again is any less repetitive/useless. Yes, that one is directed partially at Bill, because as someone who isn't allied with any of you, and someone who is just as much a fan of logic, I can't say I'm especially impressed with what you've alternately proposed we discuss. In fact, I think an argument could be made that the alien abduction you've brought up to ridicule and diminish the Maura was abducted scenario would be a much more enlightening discussion than this one. Geesh.
That said, those of you on the opposing end of this "bore-cussion" aren't any better. You seriously think the best way to encourage discussing the case facts is to send a clone-rebuttal his way EVERY single time he posts something you consider to be counter-productive? It's one thing to say something once, but to repeat the same argument over and over again and hope for a different reaction, on a forum no less... Well, again, Geesh.
Anyways, enough of that. I suppose it's mildly entertaining in a flaccid sort of way so whatever you folks feel is the best use of your down time, I'll leave you to it.

I'm new here also. Does feel akin to 3rd grade dodgeball... but on the upside, I've heard there's a puppet show later. If you sit next to me I'll share my snack. ;-)

Snowy wrote:

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the loooonnnnng posts are the hardest to get through. takes too much energy to reply.
got ourselves a zoo here.

I apologize, not sure whether or not you were referring to my post, but it was fairly long. Anyways, I'm confident you'll manage to get through it either way. If the weird OWS conflation was directed at me you'll have to make it a little less ambiguous next time. Hopefully it wasn't and I'll take a little break from the LOOOOOONG posts to even things out, in terms of characters-used.

laurieisgone wrote:

I think Bill is writing from a mental institution and just had to go to group therapy for his anger issues. just my own humble opinion, he'll be back soon to berate and upset some more people that are trying to help, don't worry, this forum is all he has to vent some nastiness.

Wow! That's a pretty nasty thing to say. WHat have you offered to this forum besides jumping on the pig pile?

vanderhoven wrote:

Two quick points regarding the Maura Murray case/related news:
A)I don't necessarily think there is compelling evidence one way or the other- regarding whether or not Maura was abducted remains to be seen. A lack of evidence at the crime scene doesn't mean that Maura wasn't abducted, and there have been other cases in which it looked exactly like a drunk bailing from the scene which proved to be something else entirely. If you really think it wasn't an abduction, or vice versa I'd be interested to hear one way or the other. Although if you can, please identify any information obtained via Renner's site as I don't consider information he's obtained to be especially credible, apart from FOIA stuff and the Accident reports. If you're a big Renner buff then no worries, if you could just identify the source of whatever information you include in your "I surmise that scenario x took place", wherever it came from, that'd be very appreciated. This will also help in allowing others (newcomers and "resident logic-seekers" alike in determining whether or not your opinion has some merits, how you came to that conclusion, etc.)Obv nobody has to follow this suggestion, I just thought it might be nice for those of you interested in the case to back up your position and let us see how you got there, as well as offer a kind of timely review of the info available thus far. It might keep things from getting too-convoluted.
B) I think Renner's shady. I'll elaborate if anyone is interested
Well, thanks for your time, here's hoping I won't be met with exceptional hostility.

van ~ generally speaking, if you have upwards of 4+ years to engage in the back and forth, you're in. no one knows where she is. nearly every creative theory and endless speculation (and vicious debate) hasn't turned up one MM.

to your point: "A lack of evidence at the crime scene doesn't mean that Maura wasn't abducted,..." well, that's been argued up one side and down the other, too. the dogs coming to a skid at a certain spot down the road leads to speculation about her hopping in a car...which leads to discussions about whether the scent article was too new / never worn, etc....and finally, the type of dog, the dog's training and the handler.

the topics shift from the bottle under the car, the contents, the light seen in the car, the activity at the trunk, the rag stuffed in the tailpipe, hair up-hair down, cell phone reception, locking the car door, flat tire, THE RED TRUCK, RO, BHR, peeling an orange, the trees, the hitch, the snowbank....and on and on.

now...what was your question again?
it's time for dinner.