Maura Murray

whitenoise wrote:

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Hope you did not use EMT as a pejorative. I'm feeling pretty fond of these people lately, ever since Nov.11 when I was stone cold dead and a paramedic and 2 EMTs brought me back to life via CPR and accompanying procedures. 2 weeks in the hospital and still recovering, I and my husband and friends and family are feeling all sorts of warm and fuzzy feelings about all the wonderful paramedics, EMTs, emergency room personnel etc. They were simply brilliant and we are eternally grateful.

Spectacular. I can assure you the EMT's and everyone else involved is just as excited. Unfortunately, we are only successful 10-20% of the time. It is very hard work. Many hours of training. I know that I have never forgotten a save, but I also have never forgotten the ones that didn't make it. More specifically I don't remember the deceased that well, but I remember the families.

Make sure you now celebrate your second birthday. Nov 11. Congratulations again.

Bill

Laurieisgone wrote:

EMT volunteers are great, nothing bad to say against them. In fact, I don't have anything bad to say about any poster here. I sort of thought we were all here for the same reason. Lots of years ago on the original MMM sight I was a poster and there ended up being so much animosity that everyone started just talking about who was being mean to whom. Not my kind of thing, and now this has turned into that. I love to read and hear what people have to say, think, feel about the case. I think that no amount of thought is too much for this case. I never feel like someone's ideas are dumb, stupid, or criticize them for their spelling, punctuation. I just want the same respect back. I hope that James Renner can maybe stir some things up, make some people remember, think, talk... keep the case alive. That's all I would want if it were my Daughter missing.

Don't give up it is only 2-3 people trashing everyone and we all know who they are.

Advocate wrote:

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In reality, no one "outed" Citigirl as you say. Yes, Renner posted supposed information third-hand, and the info he took it from clearly said the poster had that information second-hand, which means it is totally not verified. That means it's a GUESS. We know from her posts that Citigirl is apparently a relative of Maura's, but we don't know her actual identity and Renner's third-hand from the other poster's second-hand doesn't an identity make. There is nothing in any way conclusive about Citigirl's identity from the info Renner put up, and besides that, we are not here to investigate Citigirl in the first place. JMHO.

Usually I follow your posts with ease, Advocate, but you lost me here. What's your point? I don't mean that rudely, I am genuinely asking. You begin by stating that no one "outted" citigirl. Well, that's partially true. That's why I A) put it in quotation marks, and B) posted the supporting arguments. Although it wasn't a technically defined personal-info posted in a public-forum kinda outting -- it WAS her alleged real life name.
Her alleged real life name was obtained off an EMAIL Renner rec'd. This email had an attachment - the attachment was a report submitted to the police by a CPA-cum-techie...in said report, it stated that the author of the report had heard SECOND-HAND! that her name was Blah McBlah.
That's the most convoluted, sorry excuse for citations I've heard in awhile. My point was, I do not doubt that citigirl is, likely, precisely as he named her - but there was absolutely no point to naming her. Even if there WERE some obscure reasoning behind it, he had no proof, he had utter b*llshit, that was laughably linked to her name, at best.
I agree that we are NOT here to sleuth citigirl. That was partially the point of my original post.
I'm confused as to what you meant, but I'm a bit taken aback, as I'd not expected you to support this.
There's more of an outcry about naming/outting/etc Beagle - who, by all accounts, has somewhat injected himself into the investigation and does resemble video stills alleged to be him.(Convoluted? Yes. Not nearly as convoluted as the citigirl-drama, and she hasn't even been accused of anything nefarious. Whereas Beagle allegedly made these videos....there's more of an outcry to defend him as opposed to citigirl...who did nothing wrong, save for hurt some feelings/offend some posters by a lack of grace in dealing with the locals (That's my succinct way of putting it, I know it's not precise).

Muttley wrote:

Hey guys, I'm on my phone too... but I have the ability to simply scroll down if I don't want to read something.

Muttley if you are here for maura please hang in .Please give us your thoughts opinions etc.. and we will discuss.

Thanks

Laurieisgone wrote:

Snowy- Who cares what Bill 'Tolerates' That is hysterical. Like he's the owner of the forum. That made me laugh out loud.

Bill doesnt tolerate much,snowy either.Somehow theyve made it their job to steer discussion away from MM.Every day,All day.They just shovel manure&insults.I honestly feel there is a hidden agenda.For those of us that want Maura found their constant ugliness is disheartening to read.

Blue wrote:

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I'm interested in any kinds of good discussion. I'm not really convinced of anything at this point other than Maura is missing and no one really knows what happened. I'll try not to step on toes and I'll just skim over the flame wars. I'm new to this forum but not new to Topix so I'm familiar with the in-infighting that takes place. I'd rather not join a private forum so Topix is a good fit for me. Thanks again for all the replies.

Stay right here Blue this forum is for maura. I don't have a certain viewpoint and I am willing to discuss all options as well.We are not privy to evidence held by LE so we go with what we know and feel.

I find it somewhat odd that neither citigirl, nor Beagle, have posted since their appearance in Renner's blog.

Not damning, but mildly suggestive, in regards to Beagle.

I'm of the opinion that LE did investigate this over the course of the past day or two - and that charges very well may be brought. If Beagle doesn't show up, that's some circumstantial evidence - albeit, inconclusive.

jwb wrote:

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Don't give up it is only 2-3 people trashing everyone and we all know who they are.

Dude you took a beagle post that had his work info and personal real name and put it on a blog that thinks he made a you tube video about Maura. I don't think it's right for you to say anyone else is trashing anyone. It's a blog just type what you want and read what you want

Simply Caustic wrote:

I find it somewhat odd that neither citigirl, nor Beagle, have posted since their appearance in Renner's blog.
Not damning, but mildly suggestive, in regards to Beagle.
I'm of the opinion that LE did investigate this over the course of the past day or two - and that charges very well may be brought. If Beagle doesn't show up, that's some circumstantial evidence - albeit, inconclusive.

I don't it anything legal happened. But I bet their lives are tougher now and they don't need more trouble in an a tOugh world

Tom wrote:

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It says where he works and renners blog has his name posted with the same article. I think if anyone wants to solve the disappearance of Maura Murray beagle clearly is the key. Who is going to sit him down and interview him?

Tom, have you changed your mind?Two weeks ago you were convinced it was FM,now you think Beagle clearly is the key.Is the video the deciding factor?It might not be Beagle in the video.

Simply Caustic wrote:

I find it somewhat odd that neither citigirl, nor Beagle, have posted since their appearance in Renner's blog.
Not damning, but mildly suggestive, in regards to Beagle.
I'm of the opinion that LE did investigate this over the course of the past day or two - and that charges very well may be brought. If Beagle doesn't show up, that's some circumstantial evidence - albeit, inconclusive.

I agree Caustic I also Find it odd then when I ask posters to stay and talk about Muara that other posters (we all know who) throw me peanuts and clear light bulbs (childs play). There is a faction here that doesn't want things to come out. Why is that?

Maura before Bill corrects me.

Tom wrote:

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Dude you took a beagle post that had his work info and personal real name and put it on a blog that thinks he made a you tube video about Maura. I don't think it's right for you to say anyone else is trashing anyone. It's a blog just type what you want and read what you want

dude shall I re post your post of Fred? You posted your thoughts he was and is a rapist!! I re posted something beagle posted! what is your problem? I'll re post your post if you want.

I'll go get it now Tom Hold on tight

jwb wrote:

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Stay right here Blue this forum is for maura. I don't have a certain viewpoint and I am willing to discuss all options as well.We are not privy to evidence held by LE so we go with what we know and feel.

Just like you and beagle used to discuss everything and all the possible theories, but the second you had a chance you turned on him. What did you get for that anyway thirty pieces of silver?

post By Tom Post # 10585 1/29/11

I want all you Fred Murray groupies out tomorrow. Tonight we are going to talk about Sexual molestation and eating disorders. Since we all went to feel bad for Maura's eating disorder I would like to show you how she might have developed one. Now as I mentioned that her father has been the biggest player in all this, and how her father "didn't think the past didn't matter to her disappareance" I think he may have been a player in her eating disorder.

Just type in google " Sexual molestation and eating disorders"
Heres one:
In my eating disorder practice, 40 to 60 percent of the men and women who come to therapy for an eating problem have been sexually or physically abused.“It was my father’s best friend.”“It was my father.”“It was my brother.”“It was my mother's boyfriend.”“It was my mother.”“And so I starved myself.”“And so I binged and purged.”“And so I got fat.”“And so I started using laxatives.

I need his defenders out tomorrow.

jwb wrote:

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I agree Caustic I also Find it odd then when I ask posters to stay and talk about Muara that other posters (we all know who) throw me peanuts and clear light bulbs (childs play). There is a faction here that doesn't want things to come out. Why is that?

They claim 8 years of involvment.I truly believe there are people here that dont want it figured out...what do they REALLY know or who are they here to protect?Its sad.

sorry tom but you keep pushing me and i 'll give it back. I have already explained yet you continue to bring this up so lets go at it my friend.

Tom wrote:

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Just like you and beagle used to discuss everything and all the possible theories, but the second you had a chance you turned on him. What did you get for that anyway thirty pieces of silver?

I turned him in? are you high?

Try bringing up a red truck or Rogue LE,they attack&steer the conversation in another direction.How many times did I try to contribute only to be attacked?From the beginning (I lurked here for a long time)I've felt different factions are represented here.