Maura Murray

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It is awfully quiet here if you know what I mean.
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notice who is posting in the covered bridge forum.
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Tom wrote:
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I'm going to say what I have been saying for the last couple weeks about my posts. My posts were formed from my opinion only. My opninion has changed drastically and numerous times through debating with you fine people. As the debating, and other Renner posts came in my opinion of what happened has changed. I never said Fred was a sexual molester because my posts say there is only a 50% chance that an eating disorder could be created from sexual molestation (and that could have been from anyone), and we don't even know if Maura had a eating disorder.
However if people have been taking what I said as gospel, or if there is anyone's feeling that I have hurt in my posts I am truly sorry. When I first saw the ID disappeared show I was drawn to it from Fred's love of a daughter. From there I have been flip flopping my opinion and playing a major role in devil's advocate trying to help find the truth. I have come to this forum looking for answers, and I'm leaving it with more questions.
I have truly recanted so many times about my accusuing Fred for anything, or anyone. There is nothing else I can do. I feel terrible for pointing the finger at anyone. I was immature for doing so. I am truly sorry for expressing my opinions about this case in a hurtful manner. I should have used better judgement.
I strongly believe everyone is on this site for the same purpose and that is to find Muara Murray. I would like this to be my last post. I hope I have the will power to stay away from this very intriuging case. I hope we find Maura.
-Tom-
Tom, my sense is that you APPEARED to feel backed into a corner by being pressured by jwg with the implied threat of libel lawsuit. she pressed and pressed, bringing forward your posts as 'evidence' of accusations you made against FM.

you didn't "flip-flop" until jwb forced apologies....although you did offer an initial apology for using the word "scumbag", which is totally to your credit. in fact, it is just my opinion that the only necessary and helpful action you needed to take was exactly what you did.

you did not need to play "devil's advocate" here....there's enough chaos without additional game-playing. and i believe the truth is that you expressed your ideas and feelings with passion, and not to elicit the opinions of others by any method other than posting....it's evident there is no shortage of conversation over the slightest topic and sub-topic.

again, your initial honest was refreshing and harmless. anything and everything has been put forward on these forums.

i am writing to you as i would speak to you face-to-face.
i hope you will stay here, contribute, and continue to express your mind and your heart.
do not go away.

best regards,
Snowy
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Like you said, jwb, I think we're all waiting for the next shoe to drop.

It's rare to see it so quiet here, however.

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jwb wrote:
It is awfully quiet here if you know what I mean.
Sheer bliss, I can actually get some real work done instead of being served up continuous crap-puccino by certain posters.

I must say, I really enjoyed Tom's posts, other than during that period while he was being egged on by those on a witch hunt for Maura and her family.

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jwb wrote:
notice who is posting in the covered bridge forum.
Let me guess? The Bobbsey twins?
Simply Caustic

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jwb: I see the old posts from Jan '11 from Beagle on the covered bridge thread. Nothing current, though.

Odd, that he linked a story about finding a dead body - then deleted that page.

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Simply Caustic wrote:
jwb: I see the old posts from Jan '11 from Beagle on the covered bridge thread. Nothing current, though.
Odd, that he linked a story about finding a dead body - then deleted that page.
Only Topix admin can delete posts.
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Perhaps Beagle couldn't get a word in edgewise (imagine that?) and wanted to be able to voice his opinion outside the snake pit without backlash from the politburo?
Twinkle, twinkle little star, what's going on here with lemons and stars?
cute little rhyme.....love it.
we're awake and back. a few of us keep off-hours. the all-niter with kitty kat, jwb and the hysterical poster was a distraction from the project i'm trying to complete.
they should be more considerate.:)

about Beagle...he dislikes at least one of us, and maybe more.
i don't mind his theories, as he has a right as much as anyone to express them; his intelligence is, no doubt, exceptional.
under no circumstances does it seem fair, reasonable or justified to play mind-games and/or to create theatre around the subject of a missing person, if, indeed, he is responsible for those actions.
for years, multi-monikers have been used to toy with these conversations; it is annoying to work around them, but is part of the landscape.
i assure you these games are easily recognized, AND they are misleading....they are useless as a springboard to helpful conversation.
believe me when i tell you a few monikers on these very pages are set-ups to mislead.
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Frostman wrote:
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Only Topix admin can delete posts.
in the past, whole threads of 10,000+ posts have disappeared. poof.
it's always interesting.
jwb

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Simply Caustic wrote:
jwb: I see the old posts from Jan '11 from Beagle on the covered bridge thread. Nothing current, though.
Odd, that he linked a story about finding a dead body - then deleted that page.
no nothing current- just trying to piece information together from the info beneath the videos and what beagle may be trying to say.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
Anyone know who this person John Green is that's taken it upon himself to confront Beagle when he posts something? In the link jwb provided it sounds to me like he's trying to silence him. JMO
And the worst thing someone can do is confront, reprimand and try to shame publicly a person with a mental problem IF in fact Beagle has a mental problem. The same goes for someone without a mental problem.
Bet this Green guy never even heard of Beagle before the video's came out.
John F. Green is a PIA. his posts are rants, and his arrogance is spilling over onto his bib.

to your greater point, Wowzer, it is unkind and inappropriate to deliberately taunt others online. the ducks used to do just that to Beagle....they engaged in cruel and deliberate targeting.

isn't this jr. high stuff? engaging in cyber-bullying...nice job, John F. Green. you should really know better.
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snowey says:John F. Green is a PIA. his posts are rants, and his arrogance is spilling over onto his bib.

I find it funny that you accuse him of Bullying and ranting and you say this about him in the same Post.

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Jmo. It's possible that "Beagle" thinks there is some sort of coverup inside the investigation into the disappearance of Maura Murray and that certain, frequent and antagonistic, posters on Topix Franconia (on many threads) are trying to steer posters away from that possible scenario.

Beagle has never said (in my brief time here) anything negative about Maura whatsoever. Perhaps the videos are a desperate attempt to point out those who continuously assert that Maura was a silly girl who was responsible for her own disappearance?
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Frostman wrote:
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I agree. Tom was lured and led down the garden path by people who are trying to paint Maura and her family as irresponsible people. And we all know who those posters are...
As they say in Brooklyn, let's fuggedabboudit and move on.
the choices Maura made and the relationships conducted in her life prior to her disappearance influenced and factored heavily into the mystery of what has become of her. Tom was correct in detailing some of them.

the opinions of everyone here are irrelevant to the facts of the matter and to the official investigation.

there is no effort to choose teams and play a game.
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jwb wrote:
snowey says:John F. Green is a PIA. his posts are rants, and his arrogance is spilling over onto his bib.
I find it funny that you accuse him of Bullying and ranting and you say this about him in the same Post.
i say what i mean and mean what i say.
i have responded directly to John F. Green in the past, but tire of his diatribes, and trust no one is able to force a change on another.

John F. Green is acting as an antagonist, a cyber-bully.

i, as an observer, am responding to his attacks against Beagle.
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I am looking forward to what Mr Renners next post might be.
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Snowy wrote:
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i say what i mean and mean what i say.
i have responded directly to John F. Green in the past, but tire of his diatribes, and trust no one is able to force a change on another.
John F. Green is acting as an antagonist, a cyber-bully.
i, as an observer, am responding to his attacks against Beagle.
you are guilty of what you are accusing of.

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I wonder why the investigator, John Healy, was so convinced that Butch Atwood, the school bus driver changed his story. I though Mr. Renner's blog about John Healy was one of his better posts.

http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2011/09/credi...

I thought Mr. Healy came across very well on the television interview last week. Let's hope that the interview will encourage anyone with a tip to come forward.
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Frostman wrote:
I wonder why the investigator, John Healy, was so convinced that Butch Atwood, the school bus driver changed his story. I though Mr. Renner's blog about John Healy was one of his better posts.
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2011/09/credi...
I thought Mr. Healy came across very well on the television interview last week. Let's hope that the interview will encourage anyone with a tip to come forward.
I thought Mr Healy came across very professional Myself Frostman. I feel they(NHSP) are doing all they can do to solve the case.There have been some on Topix that have trashed him as they trash everyone in their path. It is not going unnoticed I am sure.

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