Maura Murray

amy researches wrote:

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If true, that's deplorable.
:-(
I don't understand the purpose of bashing, bullying or harassing anyone. Looks to me like those locals outdid themselves to try to help. If the locals hadn't phoned the authorities, and if the bus driver didn't stop, even less would be known about what happened to Maura. My family would be thanking those people.

Hmmmm. I do concur that it is deplorable, what was done to SBD. I do not, in any way, shape, or form, support the theory that anything that occured on this forum OR other forums, contributed to his death. He moved to Florida. It has (repeatedly) been stated that he did not read these forums. And while he was, in fact, contacted at least once in Florida (by a PI) I see no evidence that this contributed to his death. It's quite a stretch.
I do agree that it was likely stressful for him, and maybe that's part of why he moved. But he was not bullied to death. I don't condone the bashing that he was the subject of - but to say it killed him, only radicalizes the point you are making.(Not necessarily you Amy).

WTH-the-original wrote:

<quoted text> Speculation? Well I know at least three people who disagree with you and thought that you were making an accusation.

At least three people? That's impressive. You must be referring to: See-no-evil, Hear-no-evil and Speak-no-evil? That explains the peanuts everyone keeps throwing at you.

Ted Bundy has been mentioned a few times; ditto the Smiley Face murders....desperate attempts to tie into the concept of serial homicides. nonsense.

the campaign to paint MM as "The All American Girl" comes off as suspicious to the public, and the history of these forums has proven there was/is more to the story about MM's troubled young life; Renner has documented some of that info, so far.

if LE hasn't been able to figure out the reason(s) she left Amherst, as well the dynamics of her relationships and connections in the months and years before her disappearance, to include the status of her mental and physical health, then the public is even less able to do so.

i am eager to listen to the videos posted by Renner/via Nick about FM's request for FOIA documents.
the lawyer representing FM made a solid and impressive argument in part i that the 2,5000 documents should be included/excluded by in-camera review, imo.

Simply Caustic wrote:

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Hmmmm. I do concur that it is deplorable, what was done to SBD. I do not, in any way, shape, or form, support the theory that anything that occured on this forum OR other forums, contributed to his death. He moved to Florida. It has (repeatedly) been stated that he did not read these forums. And while he was, in fact, contacted at least once in Florida (by a PI) I see no evidence that this contributed to his death. It's quite a stretch.
I do agree that it was likely stressful for him, and maybe that's part of why he moved. But he was not bullied to death. I don't condone the bashing that he was the subject of - but to say it killed him, only radicalizes the point you are making.(Not necessarily you Amy).

sorry, not buying it. there is no validating proof that he did not read these forums, or that he was unaware of the campaign against him. he did not need to "read" the ugly MMM forum to learn he was the object of scorn, doubt, questioning, and implication for a role in her disappearance.

Frostman wrote:

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At least three people? That's impressive. You must be referring to: See-no-evil, Hear-no-evil and Speak-no-evil? That explains the peanuts everyone keeps throwing at you.

you disappoint. i originally thought you'd be more reasoned and sophisticated in your thought processes than you've recently demonstrated.

Definition of ACCUSATION

1
: the act of accusing : the state or fact of being accused

2
: a charge of wrongdoing

Examples of ACCUSATION

1. Investigators have made accusations of corruption against a group of former officials.

2. The police are investigating serious accusations of wrongdoing.

3. He denied the accusation that he had lied to the police.

4. There was a hint of accusation in his voice when he asked her where she had been.

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I think #4 says it best. Just a Hint, a pinch.

John

Snowy wrote:

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you disappoint. i originally thought you'd be more reasoned and sophisticated in your thought processes than you've recently demonstrated.

Yeah, not particularly sharp. Especially since those were not even the people I was writing about.

Bill

Snowy wrote:

i am eager to listen to the videos posted by Renner/via Nick about FM's request for FOIA documents.
the lawyer representing FM made a solid and impressive argument in part i that the 2,5000 documents should be included/excluded by in-camera review, imo.

I watched them last night.. its around 36 mins & the Chief Justice & others were all over the AAG of NH.. it stops at recess, but unless she started working magic, I would have thought the Irwin (spelling) guy would have won..

spec·u·la·tion
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1.
the contemplation or consideration of some subject: to engage in speculation on humanity's ultimate destiny.

2.
a single instance or process of consideration.

3.
a conclusion or opinion reached by such contemplation: These speculations are impossible to verify.

4.
conjectural consideration of a matter; conjecture or surmise: a report based on speculation rather than facts.

John

While reading these forums one contemplates, considers, concludes an opinion and makes speculations.

One can actually speculate without accusing.

I was just speculating Bill, You took it as an accusation.

Ye doth protest too much.

John

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Yeah, not particularly sharp. Especially since those were not even the people I was writing about.
Bill

lol

Det Columbo wrote:

While reading these forums one contemplates, considers, concludes an opinion and makes speculations.

I think you forgot "makes speculations + gets teead off"..

lol

Det Columbo wrote:

While reading these forums one contemplates, considers, concludes an opinion and makes speculations.
One can actually speculate without accusing.
I was just speculating Bill, You took it as an accusation.
Ye doth protest too much.
John

Again, you are full of shit. Speculation requires a question mark or to state that it is speculation. You made a statement. That implies fact. Emmett, what did you think. Did you think he stated that I was the author of the video?

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Emmett, what did you think. Did you think he stated that I was the author of the video?
Bill

Honestly Bill, I thought it was Beagle.. I read what John said, but my immediate reply was because I did not want my info, which I honestly admit, kinda scared me for a minute, on youtube.. I in no-way whatsoever thought that you made it.. If he "hinted" that you did, than it went over my head.. I just thought he hinted that maybe you knew Beagle either personally or maybe through email..
Thats JIMHO

WTH-the-original wrote:

<quoted text> Yeah, not particularly sharp. Especially since those were not even the people I was writing about. Bill

There, there, time for your nap in the knife drawer.

& in all honesty.. I said "Whalley Ave." just to see if anyone caught on, so that I would know what I could say here, & what I couldnt.. There are lots of things that I have wanted to say, but if mi famiglia found out I was posting it on a message board, I might be repimanded.. As a Sicilian, I have to becareful what I say because I know its FACT that Active LE watch & read this forum..

Honestly, I should not be here at all.. But the "mystery" that I seen on the ID network perplexed me into reading, then posting..

Emmett Dove wrote:

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Honestly Bill, I thought it was Beagle.. I read what John said, but my immediate reply was because I did not want my info, which I honestly admit, kinda scared me for a minute, on youtube.. I in no-way whatsoever thought that you made it.. If he "hinted" that you did, than it went over my head.. I just thought he hinted that maybe you knew Beagle either personally or maybe through email..
Thats JIMHO

I am glad to hear that because the accusation he made was pretty straightforward and your reaction made me think you thought I had something to do with it.

"Huh...WTH, Bill posting the videos. Priceless...!!"

Again, he post "Bill posting the videos." Statement, with exclamation marks, no question mark. And no, I have nothing to do with Beagle, I generally don't even read his posts. Too convoluted for me. They give me a headache. Stopped reading them years ago.

He has claimed speculation before after dropping turds over the fence. Just to tell you how classy a guy this is. Here is another example of the turds he throws around:

“ I think the whole problem is that Patrics body was moved around slightly when found...by inexperienced searchers.”

Sound speculative to you? Does anyone see a question mark indicating he doesn’t know the answer? No one has ever said that. Ever! But here he is throwing this nugget around.

There have been many others over the years. I have mentioned them before. Take anything this “detective” says with at least a grain of salt.

Bill

May I ask you a question now, Bill, without everyone getting all mad about it??

you orignally stated that (something like this, dont feel like digging it up..) "I only posted it, after he mentioned it himself. I hadn't posted what I was thinking yet."

what did you think that I was/am?

Emmett Dove wrote:

& in all honesty.. I said "Whalley Ave." just to see if anyone caught on, so that I would know what I could say here, & what I couldnt.. There are lots of things that I have wanted to say, but if mi famiglia found out I was posting it on a message board, I might be repimanded.. As a Sicilian, I have to becareful what I say because I know its FACT that Active LE watch & read this forum..
Honestly, I should not be here at all.. But the "mystery" that I seen on the ID network perplexed me into reading, then posting..

I responded to the Whalley comment in humor. I hope it was taken that way.

LE might read here, once in a while, but I hope they have better leads than the crap that comes from a lot of these posters.

Bill

Emmett Dove wrote:

May I ask you a question now, Bill, without everyone getting all mad about it??
you orignally stated that (something like this, dont feel like digging it up..) "I only posted it, after he mentioned it himself. I hadn't posted what I was thinking yet."
what did you think that I was/am?

I don't know what you are referencing. Can you tell me the post number? Are you sure it was me?

Bill