Maura Murray

I really hope the rag was tested.But in a coverup maybe it would be forgotten.

Wasnt it once mentioned a car nose to nose with Mauras...Could the flurry of activity at the trunk be the trunk of this other car?Not sure how clearly witneses could see.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>the rag in the tail pipe was seen before the tow company was even at the scene. It was never stated how far the rag was in the tail pipe. Only that one of the responders was bothered by this.

Also, when C.Smith went to the Westman's door to inquire about the "missing girl" he mentioned the rag in the tailpipe to them.

oo00oo wrote:

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REALLY?

Why not?

findmaura wrote:

I really hope the rag was tested.But in a coverup maybe it would be forgotten.

YUP, LE is covering for Maura. Because they have nothing better to do. Cover for Maura, all the while risking their jobs, for a 21 yr old who crashed her car while probably driving while intoxicated.

findmaura wrote:

With other LE approaching,And still holding the rag,The person put the rag in the tailpipe,the rag he had used on Maura,and could later say "Hey,look at this in the tailpipe".Maybe to "add" his finger prints?

Some one put the rag in the tail pipe whether it be Maura or some one else we dont know. findmaura-"The person put the rag in the tail pipe,the rag he had used on Maura,and could later say hey look at this in the tail pipe" no no no!! This person was truly concerned.

The rag in the tailpipe was 1st mentioned by Cecil Smith when He went to the Westman's house. It is still unclear who first noticed it there, whether it was Smith or could it have been Butch who told Smith or was it EMS who was (Only on scene 6 minutes) or FD who noticed it and told Smith.

Why did officer smith say to The Westman's "did You see the girl that was driving the car, there is a rag in Her tailpipe".?

From previous statements on this forum it has been mentioned that The Rag was stuffed way up inside. NO not a signal of sorts

The Rag is a big question and makes no sense.

John

oo00oo wrote:

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YUP, LE is covering for Maura. Because they have nothing better to do. Cover for Maura, all the while risking their jobs, for a 21 yr old who crashed her car while probably driving while intoxicated.

They are covering for one of their own or he's covering himself.as I recall,Mckay was allowed to terrorize in a nearby town.LE also can have unsavory characters.

LE has pushed the Suicide Card since the first night....rag in the tailpipe.

2cd. day BOL at Noon states "Upon officers arrival, found the car, no driver with a rag stuffed in the tailpipe"

3rd. day The Family arrives and are questioned intensely and have the suicide card played again before being brought to the accident scene.

Why has LE so adamantly pushed suicide theory from the very beginning? 1st. night..

Is it because of the Young man up the power lines that night, right after Mauras accident. Just wrap it up to a night of crazy people going off the deep end and calling it quits, The end.

WHO did notice the towel First???

John

Det Columbo wrote:

The rag in the tailpipe was 1st mentioned by Cecil Smith when He went to the Westman's house. It is still unclear who first noticed it there, whether it was Smith or could it have been Butch who told Smith or was it EMS who was (Only on scene 6 minutes) or FD who noticed it and told Smith.
Why did officer smith say to The Westman's "did You see the girl that was driving the car, there is a rag in Her tailpipe".?
From previous statements on this forum it has been mentioned that The Rag was stuffed way up inside. NO not a signal of sorts
The Rag is a big question and makes no sense.
John

Maybe you missed Lookin4amoose's question. WHY would LE look up a tailpipe??? Was it way up or not???

findmaura wrote:

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They are covering for one of their own or he's covering himself.as I recall,Mckay was allowed to terrorize in a nearby town.LE also can have unsavory characters.

Ohh..so they are ALL going to risk their reputations/jobs to cover for one rougue officer. Doubtful.

What a load of crap.

It was Fred who mentioned the Squaw walk. It was Maura's erratic behavior before and during the crash. Her fascination with the book, "Not without peril". Those were some of the facts that made people, including the police, think of suicide as a possibility.

Unless someone can tell me that there were other rags in the exhaust of other missing women's cars, its a load of crap. Shows nothing, proves nothing, and had an effect on nothing.

Bill

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Some one put the rag in the tail pipe whether it be Maura or some one else we dont know. findmaura-"The person put the rag in the tail pipe,the rag he had used on Maura,and could later say hey look at this in the tail pipe" no no no!! This person was truly concerned.

You say "This person was truly concerned"..Who was it?
and I hate to say,I'm in business&I'm really good at faking concern with customers.

Sorry.Double post.connection wavering.

Det Columbo wrote:

LE has pushed the Suicide Card since the first night....rag in the tailpipe.
2cd. day BOL at Noon states "Upon officers arrival, found the car, no driver with a rag stuffed in the tailpipe"
3rd. day The Family arrives and are questioned intensely and have the suicide card played again before being brought to the accident scene.
Why has LE so adamantly pushed suicide theory from the very beginning? 1st. night..
Is it because of the Young man up the power lines that night, right after Mauras accident. Just wrap it up to a night of crazy people going off the deep end and calling it quits, The end.
WHO did notice the towel First???
John

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Columbo, you are the PI??? WHO DID NOTICE THE TOWEL FIRST? WHY LOOK UP A TAILPIPE??? CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS, INSTEAD OF CREATING MORE QUESTIONS??? ANYONE???BUELLER???????

oo00oo wrote:

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Columbo, you are the PI??? WHO DID NOTICE THE TOWEL FIRST? WHY LOOK UP A TAILPIPE??? CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS, INSTEAD OF CREATING MORE QUESTIONS??? ANYONE???BUELLER???????

This is his M.O. Has been since the first day. He throws a turd over the wall and watches everyone waste their time trying to dissect it. He has done this since the beginning. Don't believe me, look at his "contributions" since his first contact on these forums. Always the same. Never a answer, just "speculation" or a bullshit remark then silence on his part.

Bill

findmaura wrote:

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You say "This person was truly concerned"..Who was it?
and I hate to say,I'm in business&I'm really good at faking concern with customers.

Im sorry but Iam not going to say who this person is. There is more to the story and I believe this person

oo00oo wrote:

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Ohh..so they are ALL going to risk their reputations/jobs to cover for one rougue officer. Doubtful.

fear?threats?loss of a job?Or he's able to cover it up himself?Im just playing devils advocate here.Not all LE are good guys.

oo00oo wrote:

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YUP, LE is covering for Maura. Because they have nothing better to do. Cover for Maura, all the while risking their jobs, for a 21 yr old who crashed her car while probably driving while intoxicated.

Its your assumption that she was intoxicated. There is no proof to say she was intoxicated. SBD said she was shaken up.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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This is his M.O. Has been since the first day. He throws a turd over the wall and watches everyone waste their time trying to dissect it. He has done this since the beginning. Don't believe me, look at his "contributions" since his first contact on these forums. Always the same. Never a answer, just "speculation" or a bullshit remark then silence on his part.
Bill

Same old sh*t, another day.:)