Maura Murray

That's if they kept her PC which had a gazillion pictuers she let me see.

Look at these.

https://docs.google.com/viewer...

From what I see there are no missing logs and there is no call around 1903 for a car crash.

Bill

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Paris, She may have stated things to you which were meant to gain your attention and to make herself look important, I saw this trait in her myself. Give it some thought.

Thank you, and that's why I first spoke up for Shack two years ago, about the blood. She can't help it she was told by someone even Helena protected and trusted with her forum.
She was told it was blood found, the Weeper came on record to correct, that it was possibly menses from a hamper to floor transfer.

WTH-the-original wrote:

Look at these.
https://docs.google.com/viewer...
From what I see there are no missing logs and there is no call around 1903 for a car crash.
Bill

Thank you! This is why we will continue to get along. I am usually the one having to find stuff, and this is one thing I couldn't locate for the life of me. Saved and filed...

WTH-the-original wrote:

Look at these.
https://docs.google.com/viewer...
From what I see there are no missing logs and there is no call around 1903 for a car crash.
Bill

Bill, did you ever convert the text files to graphic files?

WTF
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject:
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 165

quote:c3a3a705a3="thefire cat"]A page of the log is back up on the MM site

Anyone notice besides me that the narrative doesn't match the rest of it?

The original call says CS cleared 21:26:16

The narrative, a bit further down the page (and here's what's different from the copy that advocate linked to) has times to it by the dispatcher.

02/09/2004 20:50 Rhonda Marsh notes
H2 (who is CS) clear of scene etc.

So.....either he left at 8:50, or he left at 9:16. In any case, the youth on the work detail wasn't called in until 9:21. Which is later than both of those.

HIGHLY UNUSUAL RECORD-KEEPING.

I must be reading something wrong.

2050 is 8:50PM
2126 is 9:26PM which is later than 9:21PM

I haven't looked at this too close but what I did notice is that the copies of faxes which look to be copies of copies of other copies could be being misinterpreted because they are of such low quality. I was going to volunteer to see if I could convert them from graphics files to text files with some software I can put my hands on but the quality is so poor that I don't think the software would be able to reliably convert it.

It is clearly very easy to make a mistake in the re-interpretation of the the documents even with people with no agenda.

And I could mention that I have no idea who Rhonda Marsh is???

Bill

just me wrote:

<quoted text>Right again, but it's too late, Beth has passed away in Dec 07. Helena is MM distant Aunt by marriage to a Dwyer. Beth was not supposed to abuse her privalges, but she did and used it to come on like she was ahead of the game on her own searches/results. Helena sought this person out though. This I will never understand why.

Did you ever see the forums/sites that she frequented?

mcsmom wrote:

<quoted text>
Bill, did you ever convert the text files to graphic files?

I haven't looked at this too close but what I did notice is that the copies of faxes which look to be copies of copies of other copies could be being misinterpreted because they are of such low quality. I was going to volunteer to see if I could convert them from graphics files to text files with some software I can put my hands on but the quality is so poor that I don't think the software would be able to reliably convert it.
It is clearly very easy to make a mistake in the re-interpretation of the the documents even with people with no agenda.
And I could mention that I have no idea who Rhonda Marsh is???
Bill

I think most of that IS due to the quality. It would have to be one awesome program to convert that quality to text reliably. I think Rhonda was the dispatcher.

mcsmom wrote:

<quoted text>
Bill, did you ever convert the text files to graphic files?
WTF
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject:
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 165
quote:c3a3a705a3="thefire cat"]A page of the log is back up on the MM site
Anyone notice besides me that the narrative doesn't match the rest of it?
The original call says CS cleared 21:26:16
The narrative, a bit further down the page (and here's what's different from the copy that advocate linked to) has times to it by the dispatcher.
02/09/2004 20:50 Rhonda Marsh notes
H2 (who is CS) clear of scene etc.
So.....either he left at 8:50, or he left at 9:16. In any case, the youth on the work detail wasn't called in until 9:21. Which is later than both of those.
HIGHLY UNUSUAL RECORD-KEEPING.
I must be reading something wrong.
2050 is 8:50PM
2126 is 9:26PM which is later than 9:21PM
I haven't looked at this too close but what I did notice is that the copies of faxes which look to be copies of copies of other copies could be being misinterpreted because they are of such low quality. I was going to volunteer to see if I could convert them from graphics files to text files with some software I can put my hands on but the quality is so poor that I don't think the software would be able to reliably convert it.
It is clearly very easy to make a mistake in the re-interpretation of the the documents even with people with no agenda.
And I could mention that I have no idea who Rhonda Marsh is???
Bill

No. I wasn't able to do it with enough reliability that I thought it was worth it. They were just too poor to use graphics programs to try to do it.

Bill

Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>
Advocate did you send for these logs yourself?
Do you remember who the person was that originally sent for them and said they would make copies and share? It was quite some time ago.

No, I didn't send for them myself -- it was Quija who sent for them and offered to make copies and share.

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Advocate wrote:

<quoted text>
No, I didn't send for them myself -- it was Quija who sent for them and offered to make copies and share.
.

Thank you

That link was for Lisbon and Littleton, not Haverhill.

Brilliant Brian wrote:

<quoted text>
Thank you! This is why we will continue to get along. I am usually the one having to find stuff, and this is one thing I couldn't locate for the life of me. Saved and filed...

The problem is, that neither of us needed to do this. The person that made the bullshit claim is the one that should have found it. Of course, he had nothing to show. So he uses misdirection. Stating that he has something you just don't see. But never produces anything.

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

<quoted text>
The problem is, that neither of us needed to do this. The person that made the bullshit claim is the one that should have found it. Of course, he had nothing to show. So he uses misdirection. Stating that he has something you just don't see. But never produces anything.
Bill

Sad but true.

A PRIVATE Investigator is just that...a PRIVATE Investigator....under no obligation to share information to anyone other than the family and NH Cold Case Unit.

So it appears that the link, while it is Grafton county log, they break it down by different areas. So there is an entry at what appears to be 1650 then Maura's entry at 1927. So where is the proof of a call at 1903? There appears to be a gap in the entries. How does that translate into proof of an entry at 1903? Where is the proof?

Bill

Shack wrote:

A PRIVATE Investigator is just that...a PRIVATE Investigator....under no obligation to share information to anyone other than the family and NH Cold Case Unit.

Horseshit at it best. If he is going to spout bullshit on this forum. He shall be called on it. And so far, he has shown nothing, proven nothing. From trailer hitches and mysterious accident investigators. If he wants to present all kinds of evidence to the family and police and keep it to himself, fine. If he wants to wax poetic and talk about what he thinks he knows on a public forum. Prove it.

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

<quoted text>
The problem is, that neither of us needed to do this. The person that made the bullshit claim is the one that should have found it. Of course, he had nothing to show. So he uses misdirection. Stating that he has something you just don't see. But never produces anything.
Bill

There are entries missing on the GCSD log between 1657 (4:57) and the snowmobile stop at 1810 (6:10) PM. That is 1 hr. and 13 min deleted. WHY.?

Now from what Advocate says it looks like there might just be 3 different versions of the GCSD Log out there.

The accident was at 7:03 PM as Anne heard it on the scanner.

There is 26 minute discrepancies on the GCSD Logs.

More to come

John

Shack wrote:

A PRIVATE Investigator is just that...a PRIVATE Investigator....under no obligation to share information to anyone other than the family and NH Cold Case Unit.

You're telling the wrong people. You should be telling your buddy Columbo. He's the one spreading bits and pieces of BS information on an internet forum. Not very professional huh?
Just wondering are they obligated to LIE?

Shack wrote:

That link was for Lisbon and Littleton, not Haverhill.

I think this link is the one with the gap. Page 3.

https://docs.google.com/viewer...

Gotta love having the hard copy of a document right in front of You.

Missing entries on one copy but not on the other. OH what a tangled web they weave.

John