Pillow Talk LR
East Weymouth, MA
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just me wrote: <quoted text>Silkyboxerz put herself right up and center with Helenas blessings. She even had access to passwords, could read private Pm's, see what was being forwarded to PI's etc. She was right there for many a search. I don't know how she did it, b/c in the end, she had no right, no credentials. No offence meant to all who will that she RIP. It's just that she told people things, right or wrong, correct or misinfo, and I feel that Shack was fed a line or two and i would know. There is no politically correct way to say this. You are a liar!
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VoiceOfReason
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amy researches wrote: <quoted text> Can we go back to talking about the rag in the tailpipe now?:-\ The rag in the tailpipe is in my opinion only relevant as to the events that occured AFTER the car was disabled on the snowbank. I say this because there is no way the rag could have been placed there at any time PRIOR to the crash. If the rag was secure enough to NOT blow out the tailppe, then it would have preveneted the car from running at all. It would not have left the location where the rag was inserted, not even a few feet. If the rag was in the tailpipe but the engine was able to run, then the rag could not have stayed in the tailpipe unless it was caught on a piece of something that secured it. That was not the case. Therefore the rag must have been placed there "post crash". Which means it was put there by Maura, based on the witness report that there was some movement at the rear of the car immediately post crash. I speculate that either she was making some hasty effort to provide an escuse for the accident, or perhaps she was trying to use the rag as a signalling device on the rear of the car, which was what was visible from the roadway. I also consider that she may have made some hasty attempt to commit suicide via asphyxiation. I think the rag is relevant only with relation to what Maura was thinking/doing in the minutes right after the crash. I dare anyone to place a rag in the exhaust of a car and have the rag stay put while the engine runs. It can't happen. Just my opinion.
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amy researches wrote: <quoted text> How is ANY of this relevant to anything? I'm openly gay, couldn't care less what anyone here might think about that. I don't know this dead woman or anything about her, but this is crazy. Can we go back to talking about the rag in the tailpipe now?:-\ It's not relevant to anything Amy.
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Jenkins
Plainview, NY
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The log that was linked states that she was traveling E/B and her car ended up facing W/B on the W/B side of the road. What's up with that? Is everything we've been told about the accident just completely wrong? I find this very odd. & then the thing about the gap in the log. There is clearly a gap in the log before maura's accident, but does this just mean that there was absolutely no police activity during this time(no pullovers, no calls anything) or something more sinister. While this gap certainly doesn't prove anything it is troubling, especially when there r reports of an earlier accident. Someone up above said that the Haverhill chief stated early on in the media that the crash took place at 7:05, did anyone else see this? I've never seen anything like this. The police log from that night is another strange thing about this case that could easily b cleared up by LE, very strange
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Anne wrote: <quoted text>Thats great Simply Sarcasm, I was doing the very same thing! Slow day I guess and so was adding up the bashings in the past month..lol..I guess it can be termed bashing the bashings. Thank you. Wow!!! You people must have more time on your hands than I do because there's no way I could take the time to reread over 15,000 posts nor would I want to.Hats off to you.
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VoiceOfReason
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Jenkins wrote: The log that was linked states that she was traveling E/B and her car ended up facing W/B on the W/B side of the road. What's up with that? Is everything we've been told about the accident just completely wrong? I find this very odd. & then the thing about the gap in the log. There is clearly a gap in the log before maura's accident, but does this just mean that there was absolutely no police activity during this time(no pullovers, no calls anything) or something more sinister. While this gap certainly doesn't prove anything it is troubling, especially when there r reports of an earlier accident. Someone up above said that the Haverhill chief stated early on in the media that the crash took place at 7:05, did anyone else see this? I've never seen anything like this. The police log from that night is another strange thing about this case that could easily b cleared up by LE, very strange I find the possibility that the log was 'altered' to cover something sinister to be extremely unlikely,though nothing is impossible I guess. It would be helpful if you could quote the link to the log gap so I could know what you are referring to, so we are talking about the same thing. Thanks
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VoiceOfReason wrote: <quoted text> The rag in the tailpipe is in my opinion only relevant as to the events that occured AFTER the car was disabled on the snowbank. I say this because there is no way the rag could have been placed there at any time PRIOR to the crash. If the rag was secure enough to NOT blow out the tailppe, then it would have preveneted the car from running at all. It would not have left the location where the rag was inserted, not even a few feet. If the rag was in the tailpipe but the engine was able to run, then the rag could not have stayed in the tailpipe unless it was caught on a piece of something that secured it. That was not the case. Therefore the rag must have been placed there "post crash". Which means it was put there by Maura, based on the witness report that there was some movement at the rear of the car immediately post crash. I speculate that either she was making some hasty effort to provide an escuse for the accident, or perhaps she was trying to use the rag as a signalling device on the rear of the car, which was what was visible from the roadway. I also consider that she may have made some hasty attempt to commit suicide via asphyxiation. I think the rag is relevant only with relation to what Maura was thinking/doing in the minutes right after the crash. I dare anyone to place a rag in the exhaust of a car and have the rag stay put while the engine runs. It can't happen. Just my opinion. I feel bad that you took the time to write all this out. I don't think there is any real answer about the rag. The rag seems to be an exhausted topic for many posters here. So my statement was more a joke to ask "Can we please change the subject back to Maura, even if it's to discuss something we've already talked about a bunch of times," than to say I want to discuss the rag. I forget that my sense of humor sometimes does not translate well with a group who doesn't know me.:-) My apologies.
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just me
United States
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Pillow Talk LR wrote: <quoted text> There is no politically correct way to say this. You are a liar! What? How dare you. I do not lie, period. I stick to my guns, my dependable tried and true guns until I know differently. I have been misinformed and when i find that out I am right there ready to go with the right gusto. and you my dear relative in E weamouth would say something like this. You don't want me in this conversation. I know who you are.
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Looking4AMoose
Barre, VT
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Det Columbo wrote: Pauline Clark was the woman found dead in the stream. She was murdered but this was a botched investigation and it was ruled accidental. John Was she murdered in the house? Could that be why the dogs went bonkers? My understanding is that her husband killed her.
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Looking4AMoose
Barre, VT
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citigirl wrote: <quoted text>Are you referring to Pauline Clark? I think so--as I said, none of my stuff is on this computer
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just me
United States
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Pillow Talk LR wrote: <quoted text> There is no politically correct way to say this. You are a liar! Even Anne a few pages back stated she was aware that it took a long time tio catch Beth at what she was doing. Are you a liar? I'm pissed now. I don't like being called names, much less a liar. Beth lied. Beth lied alot. Sue me. But my dear, I also have all the talks and emails with Helena to back up many a thing I have stated. Lets do lunch sometime, NOT
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just me
United States
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Pillow talk LR, you gotta be kidding, right? I can shoot from the hip too, wanna try me?
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Snowy
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WTH-the-original wrote: As an afterthought, I should have added that there are a whole lot of people I suspect are straight on this forum that I don't think are too bright either. So I don't think gay/straight has much if anything to do with it. Bill correct.
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just me wrote: <quoted text>I NEVER ONCE said ANYTHING OF THE SORT! I would not bring that up, ever. You are wrong. Um.....yes, you did. Wowzer asked if you had read her forum posts on other sites, and you replied: Just me--paris wrote: <quoted text>Sorry, I almost missed this one, yes, I did and wow is all I can say to both. I stumbled upon them when I found out from her parents that Beth had died and then they disconected the phone el pronto. Mysterious...... So don't accuse me of lying.
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Det Columbo wrote: <quoted text> There are entries missing on the GCSD log between 1657 (4:57) and the snowmobile stop at 1810 (6:10) PM. That is 1 hr. and 13 min deleted. WHY.? Now from what Advocate says it looks like there might just be 3 different versions of the GCSD Log out there. The accident was at 7:03 PM as Anne heard it on the scanner. There is 26 minute discrepancies on the GCSD Logs. More to come John John you can clear many of these questions up if you wanted to. You are supposed to be a PI. Isn't a PI's job to ask questions and find answers? You've said you have worked on Mauras case for about 8 years. Have you ever taken a pad of paper and wrote down all the questions of things you don't think are correct and gone to the HPD and sat down with one of the officers to get answers to your questions?
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text> you're so slow....so let's try again: 1) "Silky" is often quoted and referenced as an original source for, and reporter of investigational information relative to the disappearance of MM. 2) "Silky's" credentials to qualify her investigational work are either lacking/unreported/or absent. 3) much of the information "Silky" has reported is of questionable value in terms of verified facts, imo. I'm slow? Wow. You really are a classy broad, you know that? You can't even refute what I say, so instead, you attempt to insult me. Well, that isn't going to work. It simply illustrates that you cannot refute what I say with facts. And, if you knew how to read, you would know that I took issue with you and your cronies commentary on SILKY'S POSTS ON OTHER SITES - NAMELY, HAVING TO DO WITH HER SEXUAL ORIENTATION. I asked what the relevance of her sexually-oriented posts on another forum, have to do with her moderation. I don't dispute anything to do with her skills as a moderator. You are not the only one who has stated they were lacking. I believe you. HOWEVER....I don't see, will never see, what her sexual orientation has to do with it. Go back and re-read the posts. It's clear. You just want to change the subject, to silky's moderating issues - and the two are not mutually exclusive. Nice try, Lynne.
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just me wrote: I wish I could tell you why, Simply, but I can't, I don't dare. But it might matter in some ways. Let's just please stop now. I was just so taken back when my friend died and PI's contacted me. It was scary to say the least. I hope you understand I only replied just now, upon returning to the PC, because I was taken aback that you would insinuate/flat out state that I'm lying. I quoted each and every post to illustrate my point. Further, Snowy's attempts to make this argument about Silky's moderating skills/investigator skills (which I know nothing about and do NOT dispute) is ridiculous. I refuse to keep letting these things slide.
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Wowzer the real one wrote: <quoted text> John you can clear many of these questions up if you wanted to. You are supposed to be a PI. Isn't a PI's job to ask questions and find answers? You've said you have worked on Mauras case for about 8 years. Have you ever taken a pad of paper and wrote down all the questions of things you don't think are correct and gone to the HPD and sat down with one of the officers to get answers to your questions? I don't know Wowzer. Lets not go f***ing up a good child's story by asking for evidence from a detective. I say child's story because any reasonable, thinking adult wouldn't buy it. 8-) Like we haven't been asking for months. Bill
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text> Silky being gay and participating in online lesbian communities was known and commented on years ago. I donīt have any problems with people being gay, I have friends that are, but I canīt see how her or anyone else being gay or not is relevant to Mauraīs case. Some of Silkyīs actions (like the bobble head doll) and her entire involvment with the case really was bizarre, but has nothing to do with her being gay. Guess I have to go eat some crow now. I whole-heartedly agree with your post. I'm not informed enough about her to say anything, really, except that I think it's bogus to talk chit after she's dead - especially about her sexual orientation. That's it, that's all, my entire point.
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Looking4AMoose wrote: <quoted text>Was she murdered in the house? Could that be why the dogs went bonkers? My understanding is that her husband killed her. Maybe I'm confused but wasn't it you that told someone here that she slipped on the rocks and fell and drowned. Didn't you also say that you had walked or road atv or snowmachine(can't remember which you said) in that area and the rocks were quite slippery. And when asked how far from the A-frame she was found didn't you give directions on how far it was and where located from the Monteau parking lot?
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