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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Iam not seeking out the evil doers that are imagined to have harmed Maura. Iam only stating the facts concerning this case as they are. Snowy"the rogue officer{s}'theCW,the SBD,or whomever."This is your statement not mine.

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backspace4me wrote:

Det.C and Citigirl,
Lets go back in time. Why was it all the posted photos on the MM forums of the type shoe Maura was wearing never the correct shoe and never stated so by head of forum. The truth is always important.
Was the shoes Maura wearing at the time of her disappearance half red and half navy blue or maybe dr. green? First choice in my minds eye is blue. NO,I am not a psychic.
A yes or no answer is all that is needed.
I really would like a yes or no

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citigirl wrote:

Snowy "just as a general comment, citigirl, i wouldn't be surprised if law enforcement documentation is incorrect or absent, or that communication would be poor, or follow-through is missing." Pretty sad if this is the case. If some one is arrested and accused of a crime it is the police records that are used and help determine in a court of law whether or not a person is innocent or guilty of a crime.

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Advocate wrote:

I hate to again bring up the matter of the cellphone message that Billy received. On his site, Renner says this: >>A source close to the investigation now confirms the person who made the phone call has been located and interviewed. It was a Red Cross worker trying to reach William in reference to his requests for emergency leave from the military (the Red Cross can help servicemen get emergency leave in some cases). The Red Cross worker hung up because they believed they had reached voice mail and did not want to leave a message, opting to call again later to speak directly to Rausch.<<
But. Last night I again watched Part 4 of 5 of the Disappeared episode re Maura (available on YouTube), and here is what Sharon Rausch said about the "message" that was left: whimpering .. soft sobbing .. sniffling .. shivering.
Why would a Red Cross worker be whimpering, sobbing, sniffling and shivering???

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amy researches wrote:

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That I don't know. One is posted on Renner's site, another on the Murray family website, and a third was emailed to me by a poster named Advocate. The third version was originally posted on a website Advocate used to own. I don't know who originally obtained any of these logs or how. Through FOIA request, I'm guessing? Maybe someone else can answer that for you.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Grafton Sheriffs Dept. Nov.2004 Knock knock can we have a copy of the log for the night of Feb, 9 2004?

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Snowy wrote:

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it is everything the family representatives have brought forward right here to topix. and you read it, and then deny responsibility for allowing it to continue, day after day, year after year.
you have no decency, then. none.
your dismissive, robotic statements have no value, no heart, no intelligence, and no meaning.
citigirl, you suck.

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fireweed wrote:

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Sharon Rausch also wrote:
"Billy and I both were insistent that the missed call/message to him that morning was from Maura. I had listened to the message. The ‘message’ was very short. It consisted of a very short time of labored breathing (the sound we all make if we have exerted ourselves in very cold weather), two, possibly three very wet sniffs as if someone were crying or had a very bad cold and ended in the middle of a very soft muffled sob.
The police played the message through their land line and said that it only sounded like someone humming. Detective Landry with the NH SP finally told us that he traced the call to the Red Cross. Please note that this information was given to us Wednesday evening *after* we had provided information about all of the people and agencies that Bill, Billy and I had talked to since learning of Maura’s disappearance.
Per Red Cross:... routinely she would not call any soldier as it is not necessary to speak to anyone but the parent or spouse making the request and the commanding officer. Also, I have my notes for the information that she requested and feel confident that I never gave her Billy’s cell phone number. The only number that I gave her was my cell phone number and the phone number of Billy’s Commanding Officer at Fort Sill. Of course, she already had my home phone number from the message to the answering service.
It is also my opinion that the sounds in the message make absolutely no sense *if* the call was from the Red Cross. Why would the Red Cross not leave a message, or if the other explanation that is to follow is the case, why would a Red Cross Employee/Volunteer make labored breathing, crying sounds while making a professional call?
Another reason the NH SP said that it was not reasonable to believe the message came from Maura was that she would have a left a message instead of just sounds. To my way of thinking the main reason that Maura may not have left a message is that Billy frequently has a problem with his phone whereby the caller does not realize that their call has made connection with Billy’s phone.
I have called him 2 or 3 times in a row, thinking that my call did not go through. Until we realized this problem just in the last few months since Maura went missing, Billy would always ask why I hung up and called again. If this were the case, then Maura may not have had any other minutes remaining on the calling card or she was in the undesirable position of not being able to place the call again.
As to the Red Cross possibility as suggested by NH SP, Billy never received a call or a voice message from them."

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oo00oo wrote:

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Couldn't be because "You" keep changing theories. A couple weeks ago You were pointing your finger at E.Van Bowman, at which You were too lazy to look up the fact that he was in jail in 2004. Then when Beagle became an avid video producer, You claimed "things are heating up". You're all over the road. If I'm not mistaken, You have also stated in the past that LE did nothing wrong. Which is it??

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backspace4me wrote:

Det.C and Citigirl,
Lets go back in time. Why was it all the posted photos on the MM forums of the type shoe Maura was wearing never the correct shoe and never stated so by head of forum. The truth is always important.
Was the shoes Maura wearing at the time of her disappearance half red and half navy blue or maybe dr. green? First choice in my minds eye is blue. NO,I am not a psychic.
A yes or no answer is all that is needed.
I really would like a yes or no

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Det Columbo wrote:

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Not one person can state as fact what shoes she was wearing that night. Nobody.
John

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>There was the lady that stated she heard LE arguing in her back yard as to who's jurisdiction it was. She did not give a time. Only that she had heard LE in her back yard arguing as to who's jurisdiction it was. We knew nothing about this. It was this woman and her friend that were the ones that sought us out and found us to give us this info.

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Advocate wrote:

I hate to again bring up the matter of the cellphone message that Billy received. On his site, Renner says this: >>A source close to the investigation now confirms the person who made the phone call has been located and interviewed. It was a Red Cross worker trying to reach William in reference to his requests for emergency leave from the military (the Red Cross can help servicemen get emergency leave in some cases). The Red Cross worker hung up because they believed they had reached voice mail and did not want to leave a message, opting to call again later to speak directly to Rausch.<<
But. Last night I again watched Part 4 of 5 of the Disappeared episode re Maura (available on YouTube), and here is what Sharon Rausch said about the "message" that was left: whimpering .. soft sobbing .. sniffling .. shivering.
Why would a Red Cross worker be whimpering, sobbing, sniffling and shivering???

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backspace4me wrote:

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OK fair enough. On the MMM board her shoes that were described as bowling looking shoes it was stated she may have been wearing. Did she have this type of shoe. Im sure the family, exboyfriend or friends would know. Don't ya think. Ask them.

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jwb wrote:

If you look at the time from the call logs and the police report they do not match up at all.look for yourself before you judge. It is written.