Maura Murray

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jwb wrote:

citigirl found the truck info on the log there was also a 1996 Dodge Durango (red) stopped and a 2002 GN GMC

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Frostman wrote:

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That cable had better include educational programming only, otherwise you'll probably be scolded for your parenting skills... again.:0)

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"Maura must have packed her college textbooks as well since they were later found in her car. Maura had been getting rides from friends at school due to her car problems, says Sharon Rausch, so it is unlikely the textbooks would have already been in the car." http://whitmanhansonexpress.com/index.php...

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Consider this wrote:

Minimize Harm Ethical journalists treat sources, subjects and colleagues as human beings deserving of respect.
Journalists should:
— Show compassion for those who may be affected adversely by news coverage. Use special sensitivity when dealing with children and inexperienced sources or subjects.
— Be sensitive when seeking or using interviews or photographs of those affected by tragedy or grief.
— Recognize that gathering and reporting information may cause harm or discomfort. Pursuit of the news is not a license for arrogance.
— Recognize that private people have a greater right to control information about themselves than do public officials and others who seek power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need can justify intrusion into anyone’s privacy.
— Show good taste. Avoid pandering to lurid curiosity.

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whitenoise wrote:

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NOT ME! I don't care what happened to an adult woman who actually drives a car while guzzling booze, leaves an 18 yr old boy to die on the roadside on a freezing cold winter's night, causing him to spend 3 months in the hospital in a coma, and then have to spend more time in a rehab hospital, a woman who is a thief (we know about the WP and UMA crimes, tip of the iceberg), a liar, a drug addict and an alcohol abuser. There is an epidemic of missing people in this country. There are so many missing persons cases that warrant my interest and concern. These people are decent people minding their own business and abducted, never to be seen again: Holly Bobo, Tara Grinstead, Jennifer Kesse. Holly Bobo was dragged out of her own house, her brother looked out a second floor window and witnessed this. Tara and Jennifer were also both taken from their own homes. My heart bleeds for these people and their suffering families. I have compassion burnout and I drop into this forum only occasionally for my own amusement. The only reason so many got hooked on this case is because of Maura's West Point connection. A certain amount of glamour attaches itself to the words West Point. They forget she was there only 3 months and then got kicked out for stealing.

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whitenoise wrote:

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NOT ME! I don't care what happened to an adult woman who actually drives a car while guzzling booze, leaves an 18 yr old boy to die on the roadside on a freezing cold winter's night, causing him to spend 3 months in the hospital in a coma, and then have to spend more time in a rehab hospital, a woman who is a thief (we know about the WP and UMA crimes, tip of the iceberg), a liar, a drug addict and an alcohol abuser. There is an epidemic of missing people in this country. There are so many missing persons cases that warrant my interest and concern. These people are decent people minding their own business and abducted, never to be seen again: Holly Bobo, Tara Grinstead, Jennifer Kesse. Holly Bobo was dragged out of her own house, her brother looked out a second floor window and witnessed this. Tara and Jennifer were also both taken from their own homes. My heart bleeds for these people and their suffering families. I have compassion burnout and I drop into this forum only occasionally for my own amusement. The only reason so many got hooked on this case is because of Maura's West Point connection. A certain amount of glamour attaches itself to the words West Point. They forget she was there only 3 months and then got kicked out for stealing.

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jwb wrote:

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no names mentioned and vin #'s blacked out

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whitenoise wrote:

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NOT ME! I don't care what happened to an adult woman who actually drives a car while guzzling booze, leaves an 18 yr old boy to die on the roadside on a freezing cold winter's night, causing him to spend 3 months in the hospital in a coma, and then have to spend more time in a rehab hospital, a woman who is a thief (we know about the WP and UMA crimes, tip of the iceberg), a liar, a drug addict and an alcohol abuser. There is an epidemic of missing people in this country. There are so many missing persons cases that warrant my interest and concern. These people are decent people minding their own business and abducted, never to be seen again: Holly Bobo, Tara Grinstead, Jennifer Kesse. Holly Bobo was dragged out of her own house, her brother looked out a second floor window and witnessed this. Tara and Jennifer were also both taken from their own homes. My heart bleeds for these people and their suffering families. I have compassion burnout and I drop into this forum only occasionally for my own amusement. The only reason so many got hooked on this case is because of Maura's West Point connection. A certain amount of glamour attaches itself to the words West Point. They forget she was there only 3 months and then got kicked out for stealing.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I should have said when replying to the posting concerning the red trucks that I was not stating or implying that this red truck had anything to do with Mauras disappearance.

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hannah_b wrote:

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This is by no means new developments. This info was around at least a few years ago and has been extensively discussed on the old forums.

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hannah_b wrote:

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What I´m saying is, having issues or having made some stupid choices does not make someone less worthy of being found and less worthy of getting justice if victim of a crime.

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hannah_b wrote:

Whitenoise wrote: "A certain amount of glamour attaches itself to the words West Point. They forget she was there only 3 months and then got kicked out for stealing."
From where did you get she was at WP for only 3 months? She was there almost a year and a half.

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jwb wrote:

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no one said it was new news? not impliing that is is news at all. one of the posters said three trucks stopped another said just a f 250 and I went looking to confirm thats all.

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Brilliant Brian wrote:

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You're a jackass and you should stop coming here. You must be one lifeless in-bred if posting stuff like that gets you off.

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jwb wrote:

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Jenkins what are your thoughts about the map that renner has on his Blog depicting the saturn clipping the bank on the westmans side and then spinning and landing where it did facing east. Do you think it is feasible base on the the shape of the curve and the physics end of it. This was stated by a TV guy who I believe was also an emt that night.
Interested in your thoughts and any spare change
Thanks

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UKI2012 wrote:

Hello everyone I not posted for a long long time I have posted before (under the same username) but mostly just read things now.
Have any of you read about Billy Rausch's sister who committed suicide in April 2007? Was wondering what you think about this?
I read it on renners blog and he says the case is still open which is weird if was in fact a suicide.
From Renners blog:
"During a visit to the Morrow County Sheriff's office last week, I was given a report by police in which the scene was described. In the report, the officer mentions that a note had been tucked into her waistband. When I requested further information, including statements and details about the note's contents, I was told the case was still open and the office could not release any information because detectives were still investigating it for possible criminal charges."

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Jenkins wrote:

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Wasn't that drawn up by lavoie the tow truck driver? Thats what I thought.
Honestly it looks like a much more accurate depiction of the accident to me.
I find it interesting that it didnt come from LE, it came from a private citizen. This just shows the cops were either idiots or covering something up. Based on how I've seen Nh LE handle things I tend to lean toward the side of them being idiots but it does seem rather odd.
How could smith possibly have missed the fact that she clipped the snowbank on the inside of the corner? This means his accident report was beyond wrong.
Most interesting thing I find about this telling of the accident is the fact that he said it appeared as if the driver had lost power and was trying to regain control when she hit the left snowbank.
Another thing I think can be shown is the fact that the snowbank did not cause the big dent above her driver side headlight. So we r supposed to believe thatthe snowbank was so soft that she could plow straight through it, uet frozen rock solid enough to put a sharp dent like that into her car? I don't think so.
It obviously wasn't even hard enough to cause damage to her bumper.
One more point Is that lavoie specifically says that a rag in the tailpipe is a good way to disable a car, but everyone on here has just written that off as impossibly because they say a rag can't stay in a tailpipe.
I was talkin to one of my boys who is a mechanic about this and he said you definitely can get a rag to stay in a tailpipe and disable a car with it. He said this is an old school way of testing for exhaust leaks and there is a particular way of folding/rolling up a shop rag to make it so it will stay in there.
But overall I think that dswcription of the accident makes sense, she lost power and with it power steering, then while trying to regain control of her car she clipped the inside of the corner, causing her to spinning end up ass end into the other snowbank