Maura Murray

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Mar 20, 2012
 
I haven't had time to go back and find links to where they said Billy the sbd and the CW were cleared but it's been years since anyone has considered them a suspect. Nobody considers them suspects bc LE has come out in the media and said they had nothing to do with it. They might not have said "he was cleared" but they certainly said that these guys aren't suspects.
They've never said anything Evelyn resembling that about Fred.
It's clear that Fred is a potential suspect & possibly the prime suspect.
He said all these things that were just taken as gospel in the first couple years that have now been shown to be total bullshit.

If he showed up with 4000 to but a car, & they had picked one out, why didn't they buy it that wknd? Why is it that her friend Sara had absolutely no recollection of them talking about looking at cars? Anyone I've ever know buying a car is a pretty big thing and u would think maira would've been excited that she was getting rod of the saturn, I fin it hard to believe she wouldn't have mentioned it at dinner w her best friend!
So many things don't add up here...
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hi all,we don't know who was driving the Toyota in Hadley or if Maura was able to get into her room after the party down the hall in Sara's room.
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anyone who thinks Fred knew or knows what ahppened to his daughter is insane. The extent that ma went to make our lives miserable, the pain he felt and must still feel, is completely real and impossible to fake.

Trust me on this, he had more information about Mauras background than he shared, but he was not responsible for what hapepned to her nor does he know what happened to her.

Put that out of your minds, its absurd.
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**The extent that man went to make our lives miserable....

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FrmLE wrote:
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All you posters who give any credibility to columbo, heed my warning. He is a liar and a fake.
Reminds me of a dog sniffing and then scratching the dirt before lifting his leg and peeing. He just wants to mark a territory.

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FrmLE wrote:
anyone who thinks Fred knew or knows what ahppened to his daughter is insane. The extent that ma went to make our lives miserable, the pain he felt and must still feel, is completely real and impossible to fake.
Trust me on this, he had more information about Mauras background than he shared, but he was not responsible for what hapepned to her nor does he know what happened to her.
Put that out of your minds, its absurd.
It doesn't seem right that you talk about this case just like Columbo. How dare you speak outside of the investigation? Trust nobody including you. So your saying Murray was dishonest with the cops? Great.
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FrmLE, I agree w u about the jurisdiction argument. It appears to ke that someOne, possible columbo has just made this up.
I'm not even a cop but I'd never heard of jurisdiction being an issue in Nh, as it is a mutual aid state.

But what your saying about homicide workin this case bc they have to is false.
They Only investigate cases where it's believed a homicide has taken place. Homicide detectives do not investigate every missing persons case, only ones where there r suspicious circumstances.
R u really trying to say the homicide unit of the ag'a office investigate every single missing person? That's ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
Same thing w the ccu, there is a very specific definitiTion of the cases they take, and suspicion of murder is whats required.
I know that your an apologist for Nh LE & like to try to cover to their inept investigative abilities but can u not just put out blatantly false information and try to say it's a fact.

It is obvious to anyone looking at this case objectively that LE believes Maura was mirdered& has believed that since very early on. How early is up for debate but with all the things LE and the AG have said about this case in court and to the media u can't deny that they believe she was murdered and be telling the truth
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Arguing in their back yard over jurisdiction...sounds completely made up by someOne from mass or Ct who has no idea how Nh LE work.
Only question is: did sOmeone w a vacation house up there make this up & tell columbo or is he just making shit up now?

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It is obvious to anyone looking at this case objectively that LE believes Maura was mirdered& has believed that since very early on. How early is up for debate but with all the things LE and the AG have said about this case in court and to the media u can't deny that they believe she was murdered and be telling the truth
Its not obvious at all.
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Hey frmLE, how r u so sure columbo was never a cop?
I thought he proved that he was a Nh state cop to several posters, am I wrong about that?

He's certainly a shitty investigator, and a weirdo, but isn't that pretty much par for the course when your talking Nh LE?
There certainly is good reason to doubt much of what he says, most of it is completely just taking his word for it.
But I thought the fact that he was a cop had been established.

Besides for that should him being a cop or not being a cop have any bearing on the discussion? Are we supposed to trust somebody more bc they're a cop or something? That seems wicked stupid if u ask me
Anyone who is, or was Nh LE should hbe absolutely no business on this message board.
Any posts by Anyone claiming to be ex LE on this board should be taken with a giant grain of salt.
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Jenkins wrote:
Arguing in their back yard over jurisdiction...sounds completely made up by someOne from mass or Ct who has no idea how Nh LE work.
Only question is: did sOmeone w a vacation house up there make this up & tell columbo or is he just making shit up now?
I don't believe the houses in that area are vacation houses---at the time I recall them all being inhabitted all year.

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Jenkins wrote:
Hey frmLE, how r u so sure columbo was never a cop?
I thought he proved that he was a Nh state cop to several posters, am I wrong about that?
He's certainly a shitty investigator, and a weirdo, but isn't that pretty much par for the course when your talking Nh LE?
There certainly is good reason to doubt much of what he says, most of it is completely just taking his word for it.
But I thought the fact that he was a cop had been established.
Besides for that should him being a cop or not being a cop have any bearing on the discussion? Are we supposed to trust somebody more bc they're a cop or something? That seems wicked stupid if u ask me
Anyone who is, or was Nh LE should hbe absolutely no business on this message board.
Any posts by Anyone claiming to be ex LE on this board should be taken with a giant grain of salt.
I believe FRMLE before Columbo. Columbos just a hack.

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Jurisdiction was an issue. Was JKM working that night, What shift was He on, supposedly He was on His way home SOUTH of Haverhill.

He was in Lisbon at 7:30. Was He headed east or west on 302.?

Why did He go to the accident scene if He did not want anything to do with it. How late did JKM work that night.

Jurisdiction was an issue and still is to this day.

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A few years back, Columbo invited anyone to DD to meet and I did. He carried proof that he was a former NH LE and his PI liscense. I went simply to learn if he was legit. He is.
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Regarding a mysterious red truck as observed by witness RO in Swiftwater village at about the time of Maura´s disappearance I "googled" "missing red truck" and came up with the rather intriguing post below from someone calling himself/herself "potential witness". The post below can be found on the site uaddit.com/discussions
What do you think? Ideas?
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potential witness
I personally have been searching the hills of NH since the so called accident. Through these eyes and other senses this author has witnessed some very leading information. Such as a red truck once owned by a family member disappearing after it is witnessed in warren NH. The DMV to this day has no record of where the vehicle went. The family member that should be investigated has family in NH....thats a promise!
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Jenkins wrote:
Hey frmLE, how r u so sure columbo was never a cop?
I thought he proved that he was a Nh state cop to several posters, am I wrong about that?
He's certainly a shitty investigator, and a weirdo, but isn't that pretty much par for the course when your talking Nh LE?
There certainly is good reason to doubt much of what he says, most of it is completely just taking his word for it.
But I thought the fact that he was a cop had been established.
Besides for that should him being a cop or not being a cop have any bearing on the discussion? Are we supposed to trust somebody more bc they're a cop or something? That seems wicked stupid if u ask me
Anyone who is, or was Nh LE should hbe absolutely no business on this message board.
Any posts by Anyone claiming to be ex LE on this board should be taken with a giant grain of salt.
Plop Plop Fizz Fizz....Oh what a relief it is.

FrmLE You just ruined Your own reputation trying to make Me look bad. You lose.

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FrmLE wrote:
anyone who thinks Fred knew or knows what ahppened to his daughter is insane. The extent that ma went to make our lives miserable, the pain he felt and must still feel, is completely real and impossible to fake.
Trust me on this, he had more information about Mauras background than he shared, but he was not responsible for what hapepned to her nor does he know what happened to her.
Put that out of your minds, its absurd.
Look I understand and respect what you say.

Quite frankly really the only way he could have known where she was would be if he were traveling behind her.

I think she left that area in another vehicle.

Recently a Washington State woman whos car was found in a fender bender turned up after faking her disappearance fo 18 years.(Google missing washington woman 18 yrs).

With all the turbulance in this young girls life... a solid case could be made for a walk a way.

As I said before... im concerned about the activity of predators in that area. It makes me literally stuck here.

As equally as the evidence tells me "run away"...
It also suggests this woman was in an area I believe a predator could have offered up a ride.

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Jenkins wrote:
Hey frmLE, how r u so sure columbo was never a cop?
I thought he proved that he was a Nh state cop to several posters, am I wrong about that?
He's certainly a shitty investigator, and a weirdo, but isn't that pretty much par for the course when your talking Nh LE?
There certainly is good reason to doubt much of what he says, most of it is completely just taking his word for it.
But I thought the fact that he was a cop had been established.
Besides for that should him being a cop or not being a cop have any bearing on the discussion? Are we supposed to trust somebody more bc they're a cop or something? That seems wicked stupid if u ask me
Anyone who is, or was Nh LE should hbe absolutely no business on this message board.
Any posts by Anyone claiming to be ex LE on this board should be taken with a giant grain of salt.
OK last time....

I was a Patrolman for the Littleton NH PD back in the early 80's. I was never a NHSP Officer or connected to them in any way.

End of story.

John
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lets assume that jurisdiction was not an issue for a moment. Why was the decision made to search west and only east to BHR. Why ignore the rest of rt 112 e ? why not send a BOL to Lincoln?

what are some of the reasons this was the case?

1)Sbd/witness saw something

2) not enough LE to cover area

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Det Columbo wrote:
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OK last time....
I was a Patrolman for the Littleton NH PD back in the early 80's. I was never a NHSP Officer or connected to them in any way.
End of story.
John
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