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jwb wrote:

lets assume that jurisdiction was not an issue for a moment. Why was the decision made to search west and only east to BHR. Why ignore the rest of rt 112 e ? why not send a BOL to Lincoln?
what are some of the reasons this was the case?
1)Sbd/witness saw something
2) not enough LE to cover area

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

Regarding a mysterious red truck as observed by witness RO in Swiftwater village at about the time of Maura´s disappearance I "googled" "missing red truck" and came up with the rather intriguing post below from someone calling himself/herself "potential witness". The post below can be found on the site uaddit.com/discussions
What do you think? Ideas?
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potential witness
I personally have been searching the hills of NH since the so called accident. Through these eyes and other senses this author has witnessed some very leading information. Such as a red truck once owned by a family member disappearing after it is witnessed in warren NH. The DMV to this day has no record of where the vehicle went. The family member that should be investigated has family in NH....thats a promise!
Reply answered by Guest | 12-28-2010 at 09:08 AM

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Det Columbo wrote:

There has to be a clear reason why they did not search east that night.
They could have put out a BOL to Franconia, N. Woodstock and Lincoln.
Even the next day the BOL only went out to Haverhill, Lisbon and littleton. Again not to the east.
And AGAIN I will ask. WHY not to the east.? Why Why Why....?
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John

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jwb wrote:

lets assume that jurisdiction was not an issue for a moment. Why was the decision made to search west and only east to BHR. Why ignore the rest of rt 112 e ? why not send a BOL to Lincoln?
what are some of the reasons this was the case?
1)Sbd/witness saw something
2) not enough LE to cover area

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hannah_b wrote:

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Wouldn´t the simplest explanation be there was nothing really except woods to the east, it made more sense she would have gone back west where there were houses, people, phones.

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backspace4me wrote:

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I believe #1 mho

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Det Columbo wrote:

There has to be a clear reason why they did not search east that night.
They could have put out a BOL to Franconia, N. Woodstock and Lincoln.
Even the next day the BOL only went out to Haverhill, Lisbon and littleton. Again not to the east.
And AGAIN I will ask. WHY not to the east.? Why Why Why....?
??????????
John

Laurieisgone wrote:

Jenkins, where did you read that she called AAA from the accident scene in Hadley? Just wondering. Maybe she didn't call, but someone else did? If she called Billy at 5:00 and her Dad's phone has a 5:00 a.m. phone call on it I would say that's her calling Billy. She probably had a second key that her Dad had given to her, When my Mom and I stayed places throughout the U.S. she always gave me the second key, they didn't have cards then like they do now. Very easy for her Dad not to have heard her come in, especially if he had a couple of beers, could have been a heavy sleeper to begin with. These are unknown things. Could also be why she slept so late, she comes in at 2, makes a call at 5, then wakes at 10:30? sounds about right.

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Bart S wrote:

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Again I tell you to get your lazy ass off the chair and go ASK them. Why Why Why....?????? WTH is wrong with you??????????

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Jenkins wrote:

& columbo, just to be clear, you are not the same PI as John Kelly aka. "weeper" that was on the old mmm forum correct? I think I've read u say the before I just wanted to make sure.
Thank you for clearing it up once and for all whether or not u were a cop, agains it really shouldn't matter if someone is a cop or not when someone is reading another's posts but i do appreciate u clearing up your background a little bit. I think that argument can b put to rest, always wondered why frmLE cares so much anyways.
Weeper and you seem to have the same general conclusion, no one on the family was involved, the sbd clearly lied about that nite, & most importantly that there were two accidents that nite and the accident we see was more or less staged there, possibly by Maura or persona unknown.
If your not weeper I find it highly interesting, and even strange that the family allows their private investigators to openly post supposed facts about the case in a public forum like this. Weeper was basically sanctioned by the family and it certainly seems like the family has not problem with u posting on topix either. This seems odd to me, 2 separat PI's, both posting on Internet forums, fully allowed by the family, and more or less pushing the same theory. Also seems like u guys, weeper admitted doing this, r trying to steer the conversation a certain way.
Stating "facts" like it's impossible for her to have hit vasi, she was at work. Well anyone that knows UMass, or feels like doing a little research knows that in reality she could've left work, hit him and been back in 5 min flat and her boss would have absolutely no idea.
So why is it these pi's r allowed to post by the family?
Is it because they post incorrect statements as facts that the family feels have more weight coming from one of their own private investigators?
It's interesting, we have at least one statement that was repeated by these pi's and the family ad nauseum, that was purported to be factual by all, that was also proven to be completely false. Hmm
I wonder what other "facts" that r floating around completely false?

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Mason- 05-02-2009
A SIMPLE PRAYER
A Simple Prayer According to Google Maps, it's 231 miles from Bridgeport, CT to Haverhill, NH, a three-hour-and fifty-six minute drive. Let's call it four hours. On January 5, 2006, 23-months after Maura disappeared, Holly Angelo of masslive.com reported that Lieutenant John Scarinza said, "It is also crystal clear the family's initial impression was she was in distress and was maybe considering suicide." Therefore, despite Fred Murray's denial that he told the police he thought Maura might have driven to New Hampshire to commit suicide, Lieutenant Scarinza knew that wasn't true. What did Fred Murray think about during his solo four-hour drive to Haverhill? Put yourself in his situation for a moment. Would you try to call Maura? Would you take a 15-30 minute detour off I-91 to go to Kennedy Hall at UMass to see if your daughter was there? Would you call campus security and ask them to let you into her room? If you didn't have time to stop, would you ask campus security to check her room to see if she was there? Would you call her friends? Would you call Billy Rausch? We have no evidence that he did any of these things and I find that incomprehensible and extremely troubling. The police were still trying to identify the young woman the SBD saw behind the wheel of the Saturn. Kathleen had emailed them a photograph of Maura, but the SBD wasn't certain that the steak in the photograph was Maura. Fred Murray's conduct tells us he knew that young woman was Maura. How did he know that unless he picked her up on Route 112? He doesn't have an alibi. He had 36 hours to worry about the possibility that someone saw him pick-up Maura. That's a lot of time to strategize. I think he decided to press the suicide theory at first merely to test the waters while pretending to be distraught. If the cops brushed it aside and confronted him telling him that they had a witness who saw him pick-up Maura, he could admit it and claim that he drove a short distance before he realized she was intoxicated and pulled over and stopped. They argued about her drinking problem (which she denied) and her second accident within 48 hours. He told her enough was enough and ordered her to get out of the car and walk back to the accident to face the music and accept responsibility for her "problem." He watched her walk in that direction and then he drove away. He would have added that she was crying, drunk, and depressed and probably walked off into the woods after he drove away. Notice that this clever lie allows for the possibility of later claiming, after searchers failed to find her body in the area, that a "dirt-bag" must have intercepted her or offered a ride that she accepted to avoid arrest for DUI. When Fred Murray realized that no one saw him or the vehicle he was driving, he switched immediately to some dirt-bag got her and began insisting to all who would listen that his remarks were taken out of context. By rejecting suicide, wrapping himself in the cloak of the quintessential suffering distraught father, packaging Maura as the innocent All American steak Next Door With The Perfect Life And Everything To Live For, shamelessly promoting and selling this false image, insisting that everything in the past was irrelevant, planting smokescreens and red herrings aplenty to confuse everyone, and constantly berating the NH cops as incompetent, Fred