Maura Murray

Just me--paris wrote:

Amy, you asked me if I thought Maura would take her own life.
If I look at how hard things were for her, concider she may have been looking up the effects of drinking on the unborn fetus, all the stress and craziness in her life and the note abote a deathin the family.....then yes, I would think what she packed, how she placed the picture of her brother in a matter of life or death part of that book, she was sending out a message. Maybe she wanted to lay everything out like it was all going to be fine and take the pm's, drink and hope for never pulling out of it.
But it doesn't matter anymore because she didn't get that far.

Delayed reaction, I missed this yesterday. Thank you for responding. What do you mean by "she didn't get that far"? Do you think she took the trip there intending to kill herself but then something else happened?

findtheanswers wrote:

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Any information , any witness that saw or said anything about that night should be looked into or spoken to over and over again until it all makes sense . The night Maura disappeared , someone heard or saw something ,and May be too frightened to say, but that young woman did not just vaporize .
I don't think it is "stupid" to believe in the "reality-based" fact that Maura is gone , Brianna is gone ,and no-one knows nothing .RIGHT?
Why would the witness make up the story about a red truck ? She Hasn't changed her story , that is a" reality base" fact isn't it ?Or is she lying ? If things like this are said about the credibility of a possible witness , then why would anyone else want to come forward for fear of the same .

Sometimes people make mistakes. Sometimes people see something but tell the story differently then what They saw. Even if what RO said is 100 percent truth and nothing is pulled out of context. What do we have? We have a point out in space. Do we have any other facts to help us draw a straight line and connect anymore dots to Maura or do we have to bend this line to make it connect to Maura? For now the truck is out in left field maybe renner will bring it closer to home plate.

FrmLe..

NHSP is better off without your shitty attitude. No wonder You are retired or did they toss Your snotty ass out the door and the state.

Wonder if Vero beach is aware of the retired nut they have living there. Don't let that sun bake Your brain anymore than it already is.

No Not drunk....Don't drink.

John

Det Columbo wrote:

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Not a chance. It did not happen.
John

Wow. That it? Well you said it so it must be gospel.

Shit! All those engineering courses down the shitter. So you are telling me, that all I need do is suspend the physical laws that govern the universe as I was taught in school, forget the report that the police officer on the scene wrote and would swear to in a court of law. And just believe you and my understanding of this case would increase exponentially? Well what the hell, I never liked physics or math or any of that other crap. And like most officers I am sure he was totally freaking useless so I'll disregard what he wrote, which matched what I see on the car because you say you have evidence that contravenes all of that. Yep, when I put in those terms, it makes perfect sense to listen to you.

NOT!

Show me something or stop spouting bullshit.

I really have to ask. Is anyone buying the mystery P.I. "and them some unknown shit happened" theory of the damage to the car? Serious question, is anyone taking on faith what he is saying?

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Wow. That it? Well you said it so it must be gospel.
Shit! All those engineering courses down the shitter. So you are telling me, that all I need do is suspend the physical laws that govern the universe as I was taught in school, forget the report that the police officer on the scene wrote and would swear to in a court of law. And just believe you and my understanding of this case would increase exponentially? Well what the hell, I never liked physics or math or any of that other crap. And like most officers I am sure he was totally freaking useless so I'll disregard what he wrote, which matched what I see on the car because you say you have evidence that contravenes all of that. Yep, when I put in those terms, it makes perfect sense to listen to you.
NOT!
Show me something or stop spouting bullshit.
I really have to ask. Is anyone buying the mystery P.I. "and them some unknown shit happened" theory of the damage to the car? Serious question, is anyone taking on faith what he is saying?
Bill

I think this case is hard enough to solve even without the removal of facts. I believe that if we are not to take the crash site or accident as fact then we have no chance in the already small chance of ever getting the right answers. Just my opinion.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I think this case is hard enough to solve even without the removal of facts. I believe that if we are not to take the crash site or accident as fact then we have no chance in the already small chance of ever getting the right answers. Just my opinion.

Seriously? You are not buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory of what happened to the car put forth by our illustrious private detective?

I don't know, I wonder what others think?

Cmon, lets hear from others out there. Are you buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory from our resident P.I. I mean, it's a legitimate question. From the person that gave us the "someone moved the body", and "a trailer hitch" caused the damage. Now we have the "then some unknown shit happened" theory.

Anyone believe this, especially considering the track record of the source?

Bill

vocallocal wrote:

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I've been watching this for awhile and you seem to be one of only a few with an open mind and common sense. They should listen to a few of you much more closely imo.

vocallocal,
I´ve been following this case for a number of years and I beg to disagree with you.
Apparently RO was a highly regarded person in her local community and there is no reason whatsoever to doubt or dispute her observations of the mysterious red truck prowling around in Swiftwater village at about the same time that Maura´s accident occurred nearby.
Anyone trying to cast doubt on RO´s witness account is heading up the wrong tree, IMO.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I really have to ask. Is anyone buying the mystery P.I. "and them some unknown shit happened" theory of the damage to the car? Serious question, is anyone taking on faith what he is saying?
Bill

No but I don't put faith in the Maura-look-alike-for-when-the- bus-driver-came-by theory either, and that came from a non-mystery PI who signed his full name to his posts and linked to his credentials for all to see. No disrespect intended, I just don't agree that that's the most likely scenario or believe it unless I see some proof.

I also am not sure why it matters so much whether the damage came from the trees. IF it is true that the damage did not come from the trees, isn't it possible that she had another accident at an earlier time/date... and the officer was just wrong in thinking she hit that tree?

I really have considered the LE cover up thing. I have a hard time believing that the officer would sit around six days later thinking "What can I make up to cover this up? Ummm... err... I know! I'll say on the accident report that she hit some trees, when really we all know it was the trailer hitch. I'll also say the accident happened several yards further down the road than it did, just to confuse everyone. Hmmm...what else? Oh yeah, I'll make sure to write the time of the accident down wrong, just to make us look like idiots." Is anyone trying to cover for one of their own killing someone really that stupid or sloppy? Human error is a simpler explanation IMHO.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Seriously? You are not buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory of what happened to the car put forth by our illustrious private detective?
I don't know, I wonder what others think?
Cmon, lets hear from others out there. Are you buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory from our resident P.I. I mean, it's a legitimate question. From the person that gave us the "someone moved the body", and "a trailer hitch" caused the damage. Now we have the "then some unknown shit happened" theory.
Anyone believe this, especially considering the track record of the source?
Bill

I just do this to keep you busy and give you something to occupy the mind. Seems like You have nothing better to do.

John

Bumping for Maura wrote:

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vocallocal,
I´ve been following this case for a number of years and I beg to disagree with you.
Apparently RO was a highly regarded person in her local community and there is no reason whatsoever to doubt or dispute her observations of the mysterious red truck prowling around in Swiftwater village at about the same time that Maura´s accident occurred nearby.
Anyone trying to cast doubt on RO´s witness account is heading up the wrong tree, IMO.

The more I read the more interesting and silly it all becomes.
No problem bumping for maura. I wasn't trying to cast doubt. It's no skin off my nose but it's interesting to know where people get there information from like RO was a highly regarded person.
Not saying she wasn't but how could a person in Sweden know that?
And I repeat, it's never good to put all your eggs in one basket. Just common sense.

Bumping for Maura wrote:

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vocallocal,
I´ve been following this case for a number of years and I beg to disagree with you.
Apparently RO was a highly regarded person in her local community and there is no reason whatsoever to doubt or dispute her observations of the mysterious red truck prowling around in Swiftwater village at about the same time that Maura´s accident occurred nearby.
Anyone trying to cast doubt on RO´s witness account is heading up the wrong tree, IMO.

Who is doubting the red truck. Seeing a red truck and then placing a possible killer at the possible crime seen in which a possible crime might have happened. I'm not disputing a red truck being seen but I think more needs to be known before it plays any bigger of a role. I was not disputing anyone's testimony.
If we are going assign a red truck a role in the disappearance then anyone can make the same argument by bringing up the Vasi hit and run. The red truck was near the car crash and Maura worked near the Vasi accident and started crying that night and ran away a couple days later. There is more plausible evidence for the Vasi hit then the red truck and I'm not accepting the Vasi hit and run.

findtheanswers wrote:

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Any information , any witness that saw or said anything about that night should be looked into or spoken to over and over again until it all makes sense . The night Maura disappeared , someone heard or saw something ,and May be too frightened to say, but that young woman did not just vaporize .
I don't think it is "stupid" to believe in the "reality-based" fact that Maura is gone , Brianna is gone ,and no-one knows nothing .RIGHT?
Why would the witness make up the story about a red truck ? She Hasn't changed her story , that is a" reality base" fact isn't it ?Or is she lying ? If things like this are said about the credibility of a possible witness , then why would anyone else want to come forward for fear of the same .

The witness' account is not at issue; the leaps to conclusions drawn here on Topix are. Do you not understand that concept?
Dissecting each phrase in isolation for 8 years, and/or connecting dots out of context doesn't compute to resolution.
"...any witness that saw or said anything about that might should be looked into or spoken to over and over again until it all makes sense."
I hope she hides from all of you forever. You are very dangerous people , lacking judgment and appropriate boundaries.

vocallocal wrote:

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The more I read the more interesting and silly it all becomes.
No problem bumping for maura. I wasn't trying to cast doubt. It's no skin off my nose but it's interesting to know where people get there information from like RO was a highly regarded person.
Not saying she wasn't but how could a person in Sweden know that?
And I repeat, it's never good to put all your eggs in one basket. Just common sense.

Good 'ole Sweden. It begins to look 'normal' after spending too much time here.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Who is doubting the red truck. Seeing a red truck and then placing a possible killer at the possible crime seen in which a possible crime might have happened. I'm not disputing a red truck being seen but I think more needs to be known before it plays any bigger of a role. I was not disputing anyone's testimony.
If we are going assign a red truck a role in the disappearance then anyone can make the same argument by bringing up the Vasi hit and run. The red truck was near the car crash and Maura worked near the Vasi accident and started crying that night and ran away a couple days later. There is more plausible evidence for the Vasi hit then the red truck and I'm not accepting the Vasi hit and run.

I think bumping thought I was doubting it. Guess you have to be real careful what you say here. Well back to reading.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Seriously? You are not buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory of what happened to the car put forth by our illustrious private detective?
I don't know, I wonder what others think?
Cmon, lets hear from others out there. Are you buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory from our resident P.I. I mean, it's a legitimate question. From the person that gave us the "someone moved the body", and "a trailer hitch" caused the damage. Now we have the "then some unknown shit happened" theory.
Anyone believe this, especially considering the track record of the source?
Bill

Bill....I am just her to keep You busy. Seems you have nothing better to do than roam the web and keep people safe.

OH NO...There goes Bill in his White Cape with Mr. Bill stenciled on the back, Save the WWW hat,cammo deflection goggles,Fuzzy bunny slippers, carrying an Occam's razor in one hand and a sign in the other with Det. Columbo inside a circle and a slash.

Go Mr. Bill...Go.!

John

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Seriously? You are not buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory of what happened to the car put forth by our illustrious private detective?
I don't know, I wonder what others think?
Cmon, lets hear from others out there. Are you buying the "then some unknown shit happened" theory from our resident P.I. I mean, it's a legitimate question. From the person that gave us the "someone moved the body", and "a trailer hitch" caused the damage. Now we have the "then some unknown shit happened" theory.
Anyone believe this, especially considering the track record of the source?
Bill

Same "illustrious private detective" just trashed the FmrLE in a post above; uncalled for.
FmrLE, when you return, please advise whether you still stand by your statements regarding the Columbo. Do you still maintain he is not a PI? And not a former local cop?

Det Columbo wrote:

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Bill....I am just her to keep You busy. Seems you have nothing better to do than roam the web and keep people safe.
OH NO...There goes Bill in his White Cape with Mr. Bill stenciled on the back, Save the WWW hat,cammo deflection goggles,Fuzzy bunny slippers, carrying an Occam's razor in one hand and a sign in the other with Det. Columbo inside a circle and a slash.
Go Mr. Bill...Go.!
John

Are you ok? You Maine people need to get out of the woods more.

Snowy wrote:

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Same "illustrious private detective" just trashed the FmrLE in a post above; uncalled for.
FmrLE, when you return, please advise whether you still stand by your statements regarding the Columbo. Do you still maintain he is not a PI? And not a former local cop?

He's supposed to be a real PI? Your kidding are'nt you?

vocallocal wrote:

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Guess you have to be real careful what you say here.

Welcome. Buckle up. I recommend you start drinking heavily, if you don't already.:-)

vocallocal wrote:

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He's supposed to be a real PI? Your kidding are'nt you?

I can't verify those claims. And I don't run with what people would like us to believe...because they say so.