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Big people....little minds....gaping orifaces. Toxic Topix.
Snowy , all you do is Brow Bash . Why don't you give yourself a hug and then put a sock in it , you and all your awesomeness !!
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Snowy , all you do is Brow Bash . Why don't you give yourself a hug and then put a sock in it , you and all your awesomeness !!
i wasn't talking to you. but maybe next time i will. hugs to you, too.:)
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Yes I know Atwood died in Florida, I don't think he had anything to do with it and I also don't think he witnessed anything unusual.
thank you...i wasn't sure you knew by the way you phrased the statement about BA.

on the second part, will you share why you think this is so active 8 years later? i haven't formulated my own opinion on this, yet. it's odd, really.
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Do you know if it was ever explained by the family etc whether Fred actually did have an alibi, was proof ever given to the public that he was working?
big rewind on this one. i've been waiting for that answer for years. a few of the originals here claimed to know his alibi, but refused to share it. maybe they'll share it with you!:)

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All that has ever been said is Fred was at work at the hospital in CT. No proof ever, at least none made public. The supposed secret boyfriend has never been mentioned by family or LE, so we donīt know if he was investigated. His existance has been vehemntly denied by those close to the family. There has never been mention of who was at the Goshen party. IIRC there hasnīt even been mentioned the party was in Goshen until recently.
If she meant to go into hiding when she left Amherst I believe it had to do with her having somehow messed up on her probation (Vasi? something else?) and she was facing jail time, or at least believed right or wrong that she was.
Thank you Hannah.

It crossed my mind that she thought she would be in trouble over crashing her dad's car, not knowing whether this would affect the dropping of credit card fraud charges, and that this contributed to the stress that set her off on her journey.

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big rewind on this one. i've been waiting for that answer for years. a few of the originals here claimed to know his alibi, but refused to share it. maybe they'll share it with you!:)
It's not my place to pump people for private information. I am simply asking whether it was made public. Apparently the answer is "No." :-)
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What about the recent murder in Vermont?

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Yes I agree that she likely headed East on 112 but the other question is why didn't other cars see her? Private Investigators looked into this and in the evenings Route 112 gets a fair amount of traffic. Its a Catch 22 - Either she disappeared in front of Butch Atwood's driveway and he is not saying who picked her up or she did head eastward but other cars aside from Rick Forcier did not see her. None of this makes any sense either way. This is by far the most baffling disappearance I have read about but I think that is why it is getting so much attention.
Yes, why didn't other cars see her is another big question I have re: the CW sighting. Maybe they did but did not report it because they did not want to get involved. Who knows. It is baffling indeed. I originally suspected that they had reason to believe she went west, since the people who did the hasty search that night supposedly only searched west. But this has been disputed here also, to great lengths, with information added by WTH/Bill who has professional experience in search and rescue. People here have even disputed whether the dog would have been able to accurately track her scent after so much time, using a glove she rarely wore. So I give up trying to make sense out of the east/west thing. LOL. Too many possibilities and conflicting information, and we just don't know. I read about a lot of missing persons cases, and this one is certainly strange. I think the Disappeared program and Renner's blog have sparked a lot of the recent interest and has drawn many of us here.
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It's not my place to pump people for private information. I am simply asking whether it was made public. Apparently the answer is "No." :-)
i hadn't thought i pumped. thought it was important, however, when they brought it up, claimed to have the information, but refused to share it. that's all.:)

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i hadn't thought i pumped. thought it was important, however, when they brought it up, claimed to have the information, but refused to share it. that's all.:)
I thought you were suggesting that I ask these original posters to provide me this information. I do not know these original posters and would not be comfortable asking them for private information. If that is not what you meant, my mistake then.:-)
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big rewind on this one. i've been waiting for that answer for years. a few of the originals here claimed to know his alibi, but refused to share it. maybe they'll share it with you!:)
oh, dear. on re-reading, it's my mistake!! so very sorry!!! of course you don't know them, but i was hoping they're reappear and share FM's alibi with you. they refused to share with me.
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Hi all,Mr Lavoie 'told Mr Murray about the rag in the tailpipe'.Mr Lavoie, said the rag was way down in the tailpipe.How did Sgt.Smith know about it on Feb 09 2004.Why was Mr Lavoie even working on the saturn at all.It was not worth fixing and we are told Maura had a new car waiting for her.Whether a dog can trail back and forth I don't know but my guess is no.Still wondering why Sgt.Smith waited at the saturn for so long.If SBD saw someone that was not Maura, what was he supposed to do to keep himself and family safe but say that it was Maura in th e saturn.Mr Murray has deemed Maura's prior life unimportant.How odd is that.take care philip
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i wasn't talking to you. but maybe next time i will. hugs to you, too.:)
WARDEN SNOWY ,But , You did talk to me directly , and to just about everyone else with your abundance of the this is
"My Forum Syndrome ".You seem to comment on just about everything anyone talks about. Put a sock in it for petes's sake !!

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Yes, why didn't other cars see her is another big question I have re: the CW sighting. Maybe they did but did not report it because they did not want to get involved. Who knows. It is baffling indeed. I originally suspected that they had reason to believe she went west, since the people who did the hasty search that night supposedly only searched west. But this has been disputed here also, to great lengths, with information added by WTH/Bill who has professional experience in search and rescue. People here have even disputed whether the dog would have been able to accurately track her scent after so much time, using a glove she rarely wore. So I give up trying to make sense out of the east/west thing. LOL. Too many possibilities and conflicting information, and we just don't know. I read about a lot of missing persons cases, and this one is certainly strange. I think the Disappeared program and Renner's blog have sparked a lot of the recent interest and has drawn many of us here.
I apparently have given the wrong impression. I don't know which way Maura went. What I was pointing out was that the decisions that the police made, that night, in how they chose the direction THEY searched would likely have been based on resources available and the clues they had at the scene. This was in response to Det Columbo repeated inquiries/statements as to why they only searched west. Something that I don't even know is accurate. I was speculating on if they only searched west, why the may have done so.

The dog also, only the handler can say for sure. But, if the glove was touched by Maura the dog would have the scent. But again, air scent dogs track scent that is on the air. And the wind would likely be either east-west on the road. Air scent dogs follow exactly that. Scent of the person on the air not actually the person.

Hope that helps clarify.

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I apparently have given the wrong impression. I don't know which way Maura went. What I was pointing out was that the decisions that the police made, that night, in how they chose the direction THEY searched would likely have been based on resources available and the clues they had at the scene. This was in response to Det Columbo repeated inquiries/statements as to why they only searched west. Something that I don't even know is accurate. I was speculating on if they only searched west, why the may have done so.
The dog also, only the handler can say for sure. But, if the glove was touched by Maura the dog would have the scent. But again, air scent dogs track scent that is on the air. And the wind would likely be either east-west on the road. Air scent dogs follow exactly that. Scent of the person on the air not actually the person.
Hope that helps clarify.
Bill
Yes, it does help. Thank you for clarifying.

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WARDEN SNOWY ,But , You did talk to me directly , and to just about everyone else with your abundance of the this is
"My Forum Syndrome ".You seem to comment on just about everything anyone talks about. Put a sock in it for petes's sake !!
What is your problem? What has this woman ever done to you to make you act like this? Seriously.

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oh, dear. on re-reading, it's my mistake!! so very sorry!!! of course you don't know them, but i was hoping they're reappear and share FM's alibi with you. they refused to share with me.
No worries. I probably read it wrong. That's what I get for multi-tasking.
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amy researches wrote:
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What is your problem? What has this woman ever done to you to make you act like this? Seriously.
Read it .
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findtheanswers wrote:
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WARDEN SNOWY ,But , You did talk to me directly , and to just about everyone else with your abundance of the this is
"My Forum Syndrome ".You seem to comment on just about everything anyone talks about. Put a sock in it for petes's sake !!
you go ahead and "findtheanswers". it's a lofty challenge, but there are enough people to dumb it all down for each other so you can arrive at your goal.
send my love to JWB. he's been a real ass-et to this forum!:)
keep up the good work.

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