Maura Murray

rozShoem wrote:

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Snowy,
If your attempts to comprehend my "essays" are causing you great pain and needless anxiety, please stop before you blow a fuse or worse yet, your mind.

I cannot possibly contain this surplus of laughter. Did you just refer to your juvenile posts as "essays"? This is unbearable

rozShoem wrote:

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Yes. It is a new year. Maybe instead of attempting to drive those interested in finding Maura off this forum, you can pitch in and try to help find her. The intensity to pressure people off this forum leads one to believe that you may be covering up for someone, protecting someone.

Not hardly an essay, but I agree with you

there is no point in writing fantasy, day in and day out. when a new fact emerges, there will be progress; otherwise, it's status quo.

Snowy is right.

Shack, it is so charfacteristic of your devious gall to turn nasty. You can't hold candle to Snowy.

Shack, you have spoiled any chance of anyone ever putting any thought or effort into helping to solve this. You have mistreated volunteers by giving them false information if you thought they would believe it and repeat it. If they repeated it you then had the gumption to pretend that their repeating the "information" was an offense.

All that remains of the "investigation" are cynics. As such we stand ready to irradicate any misinformation swiftly and overwealmingly.

rozShoem wrote:

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B. Maitland's car, backed into a house looked as though someone had allowed the car to roll off a flatbed truck. If this was the case, the truck driver was in a hurry.

You really should get your "facts" correct before you put them out there for people to read. It makes you look like a silly goose everytime you share wrong information and try to make it a fact.Brianna plowed into an old barn, not a house and I'm afraid I didn't hear on any of the news reports that her car looked like it had rolled off a flatbed truck. Where did you hear that?

Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>You really should get your "facts" correct before you put them out there for people to read. It makes you look like a silly goose everytime you share wrong information and try to make it a fact.Brianna plowed into an old barn, not a house and I'm afraid I didn't hear on any of the news reports that her car looked like it had rolled off a flatbed truck. Where did you hear that?

absolutely! how bizarre...and not only silly, but, at some level, dangerous to the good reputations of others. soon, names will be named, along with false accusations, as in the case of MM.

Status Quo wrote:

Snowy is right.
Shack, it is so charfacteristic of your devious gall to turn nasty. You can't hold candle to Snowy.
Shack, you have spoiled any chance of anyone ever putting any thought or effort into helping to solve this. You have mistreated volunteers by giving them false information if you thought they would believe it and repeat it. If they repeated it you then had the gumption to pretend that their repeating the "information" was an offense.
All that remains of the "investigation" are cynics. As such we stand ready to irradicate any misinformation swiftly and overwealmingly.

yes, the possibility of Shack's reappearance crossed my mind, as well. after all, not much is new, and it's the same audience recycling itself. peri is the one with fanciful, altered states of imagination, with an inclination to present these as factual. always, beware the wolves in sheeps' clothing.

Maybe I'm wrong, but as I understand it...

SBD saw, from his bus, a spun-out vehicle, presumably the Saturn, slightly east of the WB curve. He briefly communicated, from his bus, with the person who seemed to be the driver, probably Maura.

SBD left the immediate vicinity of the Saturn. A few minutes (5-15?) later, the Haverhill police showed up. Other public safety people, including some members of the local fire department and an EmCare ambulance, subsequently converged on the scene.

The Saturn's driver was not with the vehicle. A reasonable search of the area, including snow covered earth, showed no indication that the person SBD talked with at the vehicle, and who was apparently the driver, had wandered off into the woods nearby. In other words, there was at least some immediate effort made to find the vehicle's driver, even if it was, understandably, not an exhaustive one.

So - and, sorry, I know this has been gone over a million times - Maura or someone who looked more or less like her was with the Saturn (while SBD talked with her), she was absent when the police arrived, and there was no indication from a more or less official if limited search that Maura entered the nearby woods. And no one (except some days or weeks later) claimed to have seen her on the road, walking or running, in any direction.

Is this correct?

She was there, then she disappeared, with no indication that she walked away from the vehicle? Which is not to say she COULD not have walked down any number of roads unspotted, but there is no indication that she did so. Correct?

I fully understand and appreciate the scenario of her having had too much to drink, crashed her car, and didn't want to be cited for operating under. True, it does happen all the time.

But just going with the facts... the car crashed, she was there, public safety showed up, she was gone, no indication she walked into the woods, no indication she walked down a road.

Doesn't this allow the not unreasonable possibility that she left the crash scene in another vehicle after SBD talked with her but before police arrived?

I'm not saying Maura DID leave the crash site in another vehicle, but does it seem unreasonable to think she might have?

Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>You really should get your "facts" correct before you put them out there for people to read. It makes you look like a silly goose everytime you share wrong information and try to make it a fact.Brianna plowed into an old barn, not a house and I'm afraid I didn't hear on any of the news reports that her car looked like it had rolled off a flatbed truck. Where did you hear that?

Where is the evidence to support your "theory" that Brianna backed the car into a building? I've read various info ...one stating house and one stating barn.... The picture I saw looks as though the building is a house....(side section of a house)and a piece of material (plywood) had fallen onto the back of her car. "Looks as though...."....try reading. No "fact" mentioned. It looks as though her car were quickly dumped there and it rolled further than was intended.

Beagle wrote:

Maybe I'm wrong, but as I understand it...
SBD saw, from his bus, a spun-out vehicle, presumably the Saturn, slightly east of the WB curve. He briefly communicated, from his bus, with the person who seemed to be the driver, probably Maura.
SBD left the immediate vicinity of the Saturn. A few minutes (5-15?) later, the Haverhill police showed up. Other public safety people, including some members of the local fire department and an EmCare ambulance, subsequently converged on the scene.
The Saturn's driver was not with the vehicle. A reasonable search of the area, including snow covered earth, showed no indication that the person SBD talked with at the vehicle, and who was apparently the driver, had wandered off into the woods nearby. In other words, there was at least some immediate effort made to find the vehicle's driver, even if it was, understandably, not an exhaustive one.
So - and, sorry, I know this has been gone over a million times - Maura or someone who looked more or less like her was with the Saturn (while SBD talked with her), she was absent when the police arrived, and there was no indication from a more or less official if limited search that Maura entered the nearby woods. And no one (except some days or weeks later) claimed to have seen her on the road, walking or running, in any direction.
Is this correct?
She was there, then she disappeared, with no indication that she walked away from the vehicle? Which is not to say she COULD not have walked down any number of roads unspotted, but there is no indication that she did so. Correct?
I fully understand and appreciate the scenario of her having had too much to drink, crashed her car, and didn't want to be cited for operating under. True, it does happen all the time.
But just going with the facts... the car crashed, she was there, public safety showed up, she was gone, no indication she walked into the woods, no indication she walked down a road.
Doesn't this allow the not unreasonable possibility that she left the crash scene in another vehicle after SBD talked with her but before police arrived?
I'm not saying Maura DID leave the crash site in another vehicle, but does it seem unreasonable to think she might have?

Beagle,
I agree. Your idea that she may have left the crash site in another vehicle makes sense. I do not believe that she levitated nor do I believe that she ran off into the already set sunset to commit suicide. She was wearing dark clothing and it was dark outside. Someone accidentally hit her and then when panic set in placed her in the trunk of their car may have been a possibility. NOT A FACT FOR ALL YOU MONITOR OF FACTS. Read the sentence twice....comprehend the word "possibility." Or...someone with whom she had planned to meet picked her up. It was strange that she was on Route 112 if she was headed for Burlington. She had a printout of directions to Burlington. Maybe the printout was used on a previous trip. Beagle...so happy to read your note. At last...someone with ideas.

Snowy wrote:

there is no point in writing fantasy, day in and day out. when a new fact emerges, there will be progress; otherwise, it's status quo.

Then do not write fantasy. You might want to keep it to yourself, especially the regressive portion.

RozShoem wrote:

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Then do not write fantasy. You might want to keep it to yourself, especially the regressive portion.

Showem, Roz! you go, girl! lol

RozShoem wrote:

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Where is the evidence to support your "theory" that Brianna backed the car into a building? I've read various info ...one stating house and one stating barn.... The picture I saw looks as though the building is a house....(side section of a house)and a piece of material (plywood) had fallen onto the back of her car. "Looks as though...."....try reading. No "fact" mentioned. It looks as though her car were quickly dumped there and it rolled further than was intended.

Roz, you really need to do your homework. These cases are old & have been rehashed time & time again. Those of us that have followed for a long time know when to raise the bullshiz flag. YOU are not putting forth factual info. Please, it is not helpful.

oo00oo wrote:

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Roz, you really need to do your homework. These cases are old & have been rehashed time & time again. Those of us that have followed for a long time know when to raise the bullshiz flag. YOU are not putting forth factual info. Please, it is not helpful.

Possibly you HAVE rehashed too much for too long...time and time again as you say. That car had a flat tire. Surf the web and you'll see that others in several other states are missing and their vehicles are found with a flat tire. You need to do your homework. Really.

oo00oo wrote:

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Roz, you really need to do your homework. These cases are old & have been rehashed time & time again. Those of us that have followed for a long time know when to raise the bullshiz flag. YOU are not putting forth factual info. Please, it is not helpful.

aahhh...the voice of reason.

rozShoem wrote:

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Possibly you HAVE rehashed too much for too long...time and time again as you say. That car had a flat tire. Surf the web and you'll see that others in several other states are missing and their vehicles are found with a flat tire. You need to do your homework. Really.

a genius. we have a genius here.

rozShoem wrote:

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Possibly you HAVE rehashed too much for too long...time and time again as you say. That car had a flat tire. Surf the web and you'll see that others in several other states are missing and their vehicles are found with a flat tire. You need to do your homework. Really.

Sorry, This is not fact. If YOU think it is, YOU need to provide your source. As everyone else is asking. It is not up to us to verify what YOU are saying.

Which it seems most of the posters think you are blowing smoke up every ones behind. JMO.

rozShoem wrote:

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Possibly you HAVE rehashed too much for too long...time and time again as you say. That car had a flat tire. Surf the web and you'll see that others in several other states are missing and their vehicles are found with a flat tire. You need to do your homework. Really.

You need to verify the source of ALL this CRAP you're throwing out as facts.
There's people missing all over the US and maybe some had a flat tire. That doesn't mean that Maura's tire was flat.
You absolutely refuse to give your source of the flat tire info. The only way you would KNOW that it was flat or not is if you were there? Were you there? Did you see the tire?

Roz, When you scamper out of your little mouse hole, let us know what you find. I'm not buying your crap, I know better.

RozShoem wrote:

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Where is the evidence to support your "theory" that Brianna backed the car into a building? I've read various info ...one stating house and one stating barn.... The picture I saw looks as though the building is a house....(side section of a house)and a piece of material (plywood) had fallen onto the back of her car. "Looks as though...."....try reading. No "fact" mentioned. It looks as though her car were quickly dumped there and it rolled further than was intended.

I must say if nothing else you sure have a tremendous amount of nerve to ask me where is the evidence to support my theory after all the BS you've stated and continue to state as fact and refuse to answer anyone that asked where you got the info from.
The picture was on the news when it happened and in several papers.
At least I have answered you which is much more than you have done here.