Maura Murray

hannah_b wrote:

As I recall, the flat tire was first mentioned by Det Columbo claiming to have seen the Saturn at the impound lot in such a condition. It was never established at what point the flat occurred, if in the accident, during tow or later.

Thanks for replying Hannah.It's still a question though as to who Roz's source of information came from. Since they stated days ago they would post that info again and didn't I guess that I'll put them on my BS list.
If it is true that there was a flat tire then I wonder why it wasn't shown in any of the pictures.
Knowing the source to that information now, I can put the theory of the flat tire out of my mind since IMO this person has been less than honest on several statements that he made.
Thanks again for replying.

Hi HannahB and thank you for posting a civil post.Abreath of fresh air.I recall a Columbo post about a flat tire.I think that the P.R. person at case in point investigations smelled a free meal at the time.The photos of the saturn were taken I think in 2005or matbe 2006.2 years of any car sitting in a field would create a flat tire.Anyone know why the drivers side hub cap is reversed as opposed to the passenger side.Did Saturn only make a one direction hub cap.We know nothing about Maura's life after she vanished.Her prior life has lots to tell but still is closely hidden for some reason .. too weird.take care philip

I am not sure how long posters will continue to pound on about Mauras past nor how possibly it can have relevance on her disappearance in NH? My guess is that several will continue to disparage her life as long as it takes to disintigrate any discussion concerning this missing individual. To what goal this serves is beyond me. I guess in NH it may be true, live free or die.

whiston wrote:

Her prior life has lots to tell but still is closely hidden for some reason .. too weird.take care philip

cannot agree more. the motivation for her to leave/run from amherst, and her family, academic and peer relationships are all relevant, but carefully disguised and/or protected. her disappearance is quite a mystery.

There is a tow truck driver that lives close enough that i think of him as a person to think about. This person lives near the rest area where Barbara Agnue was taken and was publically involved in the knife murder of a 14 year old girl Heidi Martin his truck surely could have been the one that took Barabra Agnue to where she was found that had to have been a sizeable vehicle that is not a driveable road to most people.
It is possable that some of these missing women may have long since been crushed in junk cars and melted down and this driver just happens to own a junk yard just a few miles north of white river junction.

Snowy wrote:

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i've suffered through multiple attempts to read your speculative essays, and have then afforded you the courtesy of concise responses. my gift to you.

Snowy,
You know what they say about those bearing gifts... Beware. Yes. To spare you further suffering, my suggestion is that you cease reading what I write. If your attempts to comprehend my "essays" are causing you great pain and needless anxiety, please stop before you blow a fuse or worse yet, your mind. Try sticking with those comments of two or three sentences. I do not want you to suffer so... Really.

nancyfromnh wrote:

There is a tow truck driver that lives close enough that i think of him as a person to think about. This person lives near the rest area where Barbara Agnue was taken and was publically involved in the knife murder of a 14 year old girl Heidi Martin his truck surely could have been the one that took Barabra Agnue to where she was found that had to have been a sizeable vehicle that is not a driveable road to most people.
It is possable that some of these missing women may have long since been crushed in junk cars and melted down and this driver just happens to own a junk yard just a few miles north of white river junction.

B. Maitland's car, backed into a house looked as though someone had allowed the car to roll off a flatbed truck. If this was the case, the truck driver was in a hurry.

rozShoem wrote:

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Snowy,
You know what they say about those bearing gifts... Beware. Yes. To spare you further suffering, my suggestion is that you cease reading what I write. If your attempts to comprehend my "essays" are causing you great pain and needless anxiety, please stop before you blow a fuse or worse yet, your mind. Try sticking with those comments of two or three sentences. I do not want you to suffer so... Really.

It does appear that she has considerable consternation with posters here. I cannot quite understand it as she isa most prolific poster. I wonder what the point is in many posts. My only conclusion is that it is only to blast former mmm posters and Mauras character.

Well it is a new year, maybe we can resolve to listen closer to each other and treat each other with respect for our differences.

rozShoem wrote:

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Snowy,
You know what they say about those bearing gifts... Beware. Yes. To spare you further suffering, my suggestion is that you cease reading what I write. If your attempts to comprehend my "essays" are causing you great pain and needless anxiety, please stop before you blow a fuse or worse yet, your mind. Try sticking with those comments of two or three sentences. I do not want you to suffer so... Really.

i suspect you want us all to suffer the effects of your nonsensical essays. i assure you it is trying for others, not just me. try harder, be smarter.

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>It does appear that she has considerable consternation with posters here. I cannot quite understand it as she isa most prolific poster. I wonder what the point is in many posts. My only conclusion is that it is only to blast former mmm posters and Mauras character.
Well it is a new year, maybe we can resolve to listen closer to each other and treat each other with respect for our differences.

can't say i carry any fondness forward for your themed sparks of brilliance, either. much credit, however, goes to the good people who have thrown their hands up in the air and have left this gathering of the minds...and the mindless.

Snowy wrote:

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i suspect you want us all to suffer the effects of your nonsensical essays. i assure you it is trying for others, not just me. try harder, be smarter.

"Us all?" A little friendship pool....? All lock arms and you won't sink. Maybe your friends will support you... Sounds like you need support.

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>It does appear that she has considerable consternation with posters here. I cannot quite understand it as she isa most prolific poster. I wonder what the point is in many posts. My only conclusion is that it is only to blast former mmm posters and Mauras character.
Well it is a new year, maybe we can resolve to listen closer to each other and treat each other with respect for our differences.

Yes. It is a new year. Maybe instead of attempting to drive those interested in finding Maura off this forum, you can pitch in and try to help find her. The intensity to pressure people off this forum leads one to believe that you may be covering up for someone, protecting someone.

Snowy wrote:

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there is no factual or new information contained in this essay. there is no logical thought progression. try to work on some bullet points and organizing your "thoughts" before putting them to writing and subjecting others to non-sense.

Thought disorganization? Try using capitalization and punctuation. Are you pregnant ("others")? Allow others to speak for themselves. Talk about verbal combativeness. LOL. Start a Precious Moments collection or something. Nastiness is evidentally your forte. If you do not like what I write then do not read my comments. That should be easy enough for you. Stick to the 2 and 3 sentence comments.

hannah_b wrote:

As I recall, the flat tire was first mentioned by Det Columbo claiming to have seen the Saturn at the impound lot in such a condition. It was never established at what point the flat occurred, if in the accident, during tow or later.

One of the front tires was flat. This may be why the car left the road...even if the tire had been low on air it would have affected steering, etc. The mention of a flat tire has appeared in other cases, not just Maura's. In fact, there appears to be a national epidemic of flat tires whereby a vehicle becomes disabled and the driver disappears or is later found murdered.

rozShoem wrote:

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Yes. It is a new year. Maybe instead of attempting to drive those interested in finding Maura off this forum, you can pitch in and try to help find her. The intensity to pressure people off this forum leads one to believe that you may be covering up for someone, protecting someone.

All these poor persecuted forum members. I wonder why it is too onerous for anyone to be held to a standard that whatever they write, be consistent with the known facts? Why if someone is held to that standard is that considered pressure that drives someone off of the forum? And if it is, why is that a bad thing? Doesn't that prevent people from coming on the site and creating legend and just plain lies that can't possibly further anyone in helping find Maura? Anyone that considers that to be too great a burden, probably shouldn't be writing in a public forum to start with unless they enjoy looking foolish.

Bill

RozShoem wrote:

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One of the front tires was flat. This may be why the car left the road...even if the tire had been low on air it would have affected steering, etc. The mention of a flat tire has appeared in other cases, not just Maura's. In fact, there appears to be a national epidemic of flat tires whereby a vehicle becomes disabled and the driver disappears or is later found murdered.

Again, we do not know and no where is it reported that any of the tires were flat. A mention of a flat tire in any other case has no bearing on the conditions of Maura's tires.

Please show any evidence of the epidemic of flat tires where people are found murdered that you write about.

Bill

RozShoem wrote:

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One of the front tires was flat. This may be why the car left the road...even if the tire had been low on air it would have affected steering, etc. The mention of a flat tire has appeared in other cases, not just Maura's. In fact, there appears to be a national epidemic of flat tires whereby a vehicle becomes disabled and the driver disappears or is later found murdered.

You have refused to say how you "know" that Maura had a flat tire. You outright lied and said you had posted the source of your info earlier and would post it again if I wanted you to, so I said yes please post it again. You didn't. You have no way of knowing for a fact that the car had a flat tire unless you saw it yourself immediately after the accident which you didn't.And you avoided several other questions asking you to verify your source of "facts" that only you seem to know about.
There is no epidemic of flat tires that I know of where the driver disappears or is murdered. If you believe there is then show us your source of information for this epidemic. And I won't hold my breath waiting for you to answer.

rozShoem wrote:

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Thought disorganization? Try using capitalization and punctuation. Are you pregnant ("others")? Allow others to speak for themselves. Talk about verbal combativeness. LOL. Start a Precious Moments collection or something. Nastiness is evidentally your forte. If you do not like what I write then do not read my comments. That should be easy enough for you. Stick to the 2 and 3 sentence comments.

Snowy wrote:***there is no factual or new information contained in this essay. there is no logical thought progression***
Speaking for myself I have to say I totally agree with Snowy on this. You have contributed no true facts or new information.
You take others ideas and opinions that you have read online and state them here as facts when they are not.
And another thing, are you trying to scare poor Snowy to death by asking her if she's pregnant? Lordy!!

rozShoem wrote:

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"Us all?" A little friendship pool....? All lock arms and you won't sink. Maybe your friends will support you... Sounds like you need support.

She seems to do pretty well on her own with no support.

RozShoem wrote:

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One of the front tires was flat. This may be why the car left the road...even if the tire had been low on air it would have affected steering, etc. The mention of a flat tire has appeared in other cases, not just Maura's. In fact, there appears to be a national epidemic of flat tires whereby a vehicle becomes disabled and the driver disappears or is later found murdered.

WHAT??!! "may be"..."if"...mo re unfounded speculation.
this is nearly hilarious: "In fact, there appears to be a national epidemic of flat tires whereby a vehicle becomes disabled and the driver disappears or is later found murdered."
quoteworthy. this one is the frosting on the red velvet cake.