Maura Murray

Mr Concrete is an avid skier

Every once in awhile, someone mentions "Goshen" party...is that in VT, NY, NH or MA...?

Shack wrote:

Every once in awhile, someone mentions "Goshen" party...is that in VT, NY, NH or MA...?

NH. Renner posted that investigators were interested. It was a NYE party.

http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2011/08/maura...

Sorry, link didn't go thru.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Is there anything else that's not a drug that can make your pupils huge like that?
I'm not aware of anything bug drugs and darkness.
I've seen that look waaay too many times, she was on something.
I shouldn't have said it was definitely Ritalin, rather it was definitely something

Some people simply have large pupils. My sister is one of them; in high school, she was constantly accused of being stoned (even though she wasn't). Don't rush to judgement based on one mere thing.

Bill wrote:

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Far as I know Renner is the only one who is interviewing police and witnesses and going to the scene of the accident. Are you aware of anyone else?

Are you kidding? Hardly anyone at all is talking to James Renner... And if police won't give information to Fred Murray, why would they talk to Renner?

JWB wrote:

Mr Concrete is an avid skier

I had noted that...very avid.

TX Amy...always thought if it was NH that it was a bit off to the left of her mileage/time...AND she had searched Berkshires prior...(according to original MMM Forum)
Wish she HAD gone to the Berkshires :\

I wanted to raise a question that I haven't seen discussed on any MM forums in quite some time... In June 2005, a girl with blonde hair resembling Maura was seen at a church in Barton, Vermont. A witness said that the girl said her name was "Raykel" and took off quickly when the minister started a Father's Day sermon.

Does anyone know anything about the credibility of this witness account? Any follow-up?

Shack wrote:

TX Amy...always thought if it was NH that it was a bit off to the left of her mileage/time...AND she had searched Berkshires prior...(according to original MMM Forum)
Wish she HAD gone to the Berkshires :\

Very interesting that she had searched the Berkshires...All Ski destinations...anyone ever researched her owning/bringing ski pants?

TeeJay wrote:

I wanted to raise a question that I haven't seen discussed on any MM forums in quite some time... In June 2005, a girl with blonde hair resembling Maura was seen at a church in Barton, Vermont. A witness said that the girl said her name was "Raykel" and took off quickly when the minister started a Father's Day sermon.
Does anyone know anything about the credibility of this witness account? Any follow-up?

I believe Renner looked into it and it is on his blog.He looked into the sightings that were out there.

amy researches wrote:

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It's interesting that none of the places she searched, that we know of, would have put her on route 112. Yet 112 is a direct route to Loon. Maybe a last minute plan was made to meet there.
Even though the search dog thing has been disputed, her getting in a car at 100 yards makes more sense than running 10 miles into an unknown direction. To me, anyway.

Maybe the other party finally procured a place..theres many places right at loon.A local might find something easier..Theoretically you could get to Bretton Woods that way too.

How many females her age would just wing it at that time of nightin an unfamiliar area without a final destination in mind or a reservation? I think the probability would be small. JMO

JWB wrote:

How many females her age would just wing it at that time of nightin an unfamiliar area without a final destination in mind or a reservation? I think the probability would be small. JMO

I agree completely.not to mention she was concerned enough to be searching before she left.Maybe Until he said "I'll figure it out"?
except she crashed....LE #1 Nose to nose?

I feel strongly that there was a chain of events that night...I also feel Sbd saw something..

I have always thought that she just NEEDED to go North...and she, having never gone Route 91 North saw the NH signs...AND as been written here before, the 89/91/93 interchange can be confusing...
One doesn't need to go to the mountains JUST for skiing...(I go, and always have, just to zone out and think and regroup.)

IF there was a "Him or He"..where could/would he be now? Did he notify Maura's family or Investigators?
Certainly "HE" would be concerned if Maura didn't show?
(if indeed she was meeting with a guy)

Just the fact that she was looking for condos to rent not cheap motels points to someone else helping her. Whether giving her money before she left or meeting her up there she sure wasn't gonna pay for a condo with 280. Most condos are about 150 and they require a deposit of one nights rate, so she barely had enough money for a condo for one night.
Maura was said to be extremely frugal and she's searching for condos online?
She didn't call anywhere in Lincoln but she knew the area fairly well and had to have known there would at least be hotel rooms available in Lincoln. I wouldn't want to go to Bartlett to just try to find a room, if you don't have reservations Lincoln is definitely the place to go, & sh probably knew that.

I just get the sense she had a new bf & For whatever reason they were going to go get a ski condo for a few days. This just makes sense. No way she's renting a ski condo for herself with her 280 so what was she gonna do jf there wasn't anyone else? Also she didn't tell anyone but maybe that's because if she was travelling with someone then in her mind she did tell someone, the person going with her. If your travelling with your bf you don't meccesarily have to tallying family exactly what your doing. Kids like being independent and are often embarrassed to tell her family that she's gonna lie to her teachers so she can get the week off to go skiing with some guy.
Whether this kid had something to do with her dissapearance is purely speculation, but it certainly Is much more likely than a random dirtbag abducting her. That happens way more than stranger murders.

There's 2 reasons he didn't ever come forward if this scenario is true. 1, he killed her it helped her start a new life & 2: she just never showed &!he's scared that he'll get accused of killing her if it comes out

There is definitely at least an extra half hour of drive time, possibly up to an hour unaccounted for. If she left Amherst at 4 she would've been to the weathered barn a kittle earlier, right around 7.

Which is interesting because all the earliest reports, including a direct quote from the Haverhill chief(the guys w the dui's) which place the crash at just after 7.
She should have been in haberhill just after 7, even with a stop for gas, what was she doing that extra time?
If she left earlier, at 330, which is pretty much about the last time she was seen on campus there's even more missing time.

It's crazy that all reports place the accident closer to 7. The cottage hospital witness says she saw the chiefs truck(HPD#1) nose to nose with the Saturn just after 7. That's right about the time she should have gotten there.

I still wonder what motivated the chief to lie about being on scene. He says he wasn't there, but we know that he was, what's up with that?

People act like it's insane to suggest even the slightest wrongdoing by LE but it's not like we are just picking on small town cops that did an awesome job.
We want to know why they lied about these extremely important facts.
Why are they lying at all?

How is it there's more than onr, documented 100% lie told by the hpd?

findmaura wrote:

I feel strongly that there was a chain of events that night...I also feel Sbd saw something..

Agreed....