Maura Murray

oo00oo wrote:

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Sorry, This is not fact. If YOU think it is, YOU need to provide your source. As everyone else is asking. It is not up to us to verify what YOU are saying.
Which it seems most of the posters think you are blowing smoke up every ones behind. JMO.

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MrX wrote:

Since LE has fought so hard to keep Maura's case records sealed from the public surely it must mean that her dissapearance IS infact being treated as criminal investigation by now? Which must mean investigators have some kind of evidence pointing towards a crime being committed. Otherwise I have hard time understanding why a judge would rule in favor of keeping the info sealed.
I mean if it was being treated as a missing persons case without foul play (which it evidently is not) wouldn't as much info as possible be made public in order to find Maura? So let's assume Maura's dissapearance is being treated a criminal case, then what is the classification of the crime? Homicide maybe? Wonder what kind of evidence LE has that hasn't been made public? DNA, blood? So many questions and so little available info

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Flat tire woman missing..google it and stop being such a bitch.

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jmlh wrote:

Why is it so unbelievable that she could have been picked up by someone? It happens.

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rozShoem wrote:

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Why is it so unbelievable to a lot of people? People have difficulty believing that she might have been picked up by someone and/or abducted, because they prefer to believe that she either "ran away" or suicided. NH has over 100 missing people. Did they all "run away?" Did they all suicide? For some strange reason, possibly because of denial, a lot of people seem to enjoy playing ostrich. Given that many bodies have been found in NH, it seems even more incredible that people continue to reject the possibility that Maura may have met with foul play.

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Sara wrote:

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This is exactly what I have been thinking. In addition to what you say, why would they go on record saying they are 75% sure they will get a conviction(not sure of exact wording) if they thought Maura simply ran away or committed suicide. Also, not showing that video of Maura on the day she disappeared, not telling public where she was located when she checked her messages around 4:30 on the day she disappeared which would at least give her location at that time in addition to not telling where the last cell ping was. These all lead me to believe they(LE) are omitting normal missing persons information for a reason. That reason being not to compromise the case, IMO.

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I agree w/you that Maura's tire was not flat. The tire on the Saturn was flat. You need to check facts before you attempt to place them somewhere, anywhere.

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RozShoem wrote:

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Bill,
I'm not saying they were meeting at JJ to barbecue...whip out the strip steaks, etc. HYPOTHESIS: I'm saying JJ may have been a meeting place away from the maddening crowd. LOL. Possibly she refused assistance from SBD because she knew whoever planned to meet her would be passing through on Route 112, heading for JJ as she had been. A lot of people have questioned the coincidence of someone just happening by in that short span of a few minutes. Of interest too is that JJ is not far from Bartlett (she'd earlier inquired about a condo at Bartlett). In my opinion the whole scenario around the condo inquiring was strange and more than just her inquiry. There is a major blue elephant in the room regarding the condo. In response to your inquiry, I'm not sure of the distance from the accident scene to JJ. I could use a map or MapQuest....or do you want me to actually drive to Route 112 and measure the distance from Point A to Point B? I have an old note she had written and plan to read it again for more info about that area (from her perspective) and see if anything connects to her favorite book.

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<quoted text>Of interest too is that JJ is not far from Bartlett (she'd earlier inquired about a condo at Bartlett). In my opinion the whole scenario around the condo inquiring was strange and more than just her inquiry. There is a major blue elephant in the room regarding the condo.

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menards wrote:

Often times the most complex problem has the most simple solution.
She was last seen by the bus driver who drove home called police and police arrive 10 min later.
So in this 10 min window she decided to run and vanished?
The cops arived at the scene and didnt check back in for two hours. Two hours is a LONG time. IMO, the cops should be looked at.
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rozShoem wrote:

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Why should I do all of the work why you sit busily engaged in your warped critique? Google: missing person car found flat tire
Last night I attempted to compile a more comprehensive list of names and discovered that it would take weeks. Flat tires on cars, vans, even a pickup truck w/extended cab w/ camping trailer. Various states all over the nation are experiencing these disappearances associated with the "flat tire/slashed tire" situation. Some vehicles have been found beside the highway and their drivers have disappeared. Other vehicles have been discovered in parking lots, especially at the missing person's workplace. Once in a while, a body has been found, but most of the missing have not been found. When I Google a specific ages, even more names appear. After reading about some of these cases, I believe that VT/NH/ME are not the only states experiencing the missing persons-flat tire/slashed tire scenario. One car was found still running but the driver was never found. Theft-worthy items had been left in these vehicles so theft does not appear to be involved.

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Actually your time line is wrong. 911 received a call from Faith Westman at 7:27pm, police were dispatched at 7:29pm, police did not arrive until 7:46pm. At 7:43pm police received a second 911 call from Mr. Atwood, this did not go through right away as 911 advised all circuits were busy, Mr. Atwood advised there was one female with no PI but appeared shook up. 911 returned the call where Mrs. Atwood advised that her husband saw the crash came home to call but no idea where the girl is. So from the time the witnesses saw Maura how much time did it take them to get home and to the phone to call 911? Could that alone have been 5-10 minutes? So that would put the time around 7:17-7:22pm that she was last seen, police did not arrive until 7:46pm that's anywhere from 24-29 minutes. That in reality is a long time in a place where there is nothing but woods and absolutely no cell phone reception. Also a local contractor named Rick Forcier had reported seeing Maura on the night of her accident around 8 about 4 to 5 miles from the scene of her abandoned car. Forcier lived on Wild Ammonoosuc Road about 100 yards from where Maura's car was found. Forcier was returning home from a contract job in Franconia about 17 miles away when he observed a young woman who fit Maura's description running eastbound on Route 112. She was a runner and given a 38-43 minute head start she quite possibly could've been that far away by that time, or this guy was just trying to get his name and face in the media, who knows? I know this much the people in Woodsville know something but are afraid to speak out because of fear of repercussions. The main suspect whose name will remain anonymous for now is well connected. His father is a prominent business owner, as are other members of his family. But, the kicker is his step mother is the county attorney. This guys own family believe he could have done something in this case or at the very least been involved.

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Sara wrote:

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Wow, so you are saying you know for a fact that their is a suspect? And his family's prominence is helping to keep his identity on lock down?

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Sara wrote:

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Wow, so you are saying you know for a fact that their is a suspect? And his family's prominence is helping to keep his identity on lock down?

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Bill 05478 wrote:

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Oh yeah and it is not just keeping his identity private but LE is staying clear of him. His family basically owns Woodsville, and he is known as a for lack of a better word a "psycho". His family also has refused to cooperate in the investigation.

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IF this is true, then that would mean LE is NOT doing their job.
I am sure this will cause a kerfuffle on this forum because people get pissed off when you say that LE didn't do a proper job. I was wondering when you said his step mom was a county attorney if you meant Grafton County and is she the current county attorney or just at the time Maura disappeared?

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Bill 05478 wrote:

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Actually your time line is wrong. 911 received a call from Faith Westman at 7:27pm, police were dispatched at 7:29pm, police did not arrive until 7:46pm. At 7:43pm police received a second 911 call from Mr. Atwood, this did not go through right away as 911 advised all circuits were busy, Mr. Atwood advised there was one female with no PI but appeared shook up. 911 returned the call where Mrs. Atwood advised that her husband saw the crash came home to call but no idea where the girl is. So from the time the witnesses saw Maura how much time did it take them to get home and to the phone to call 911? Could that alone have been 5-10 minutes? So that would put the time around 7:17-7:22pm that she was last seen, police did not arrive until 7:46pm that's anywhere from 24-29 minutes. That in reality is a long time in a place where there is nothing but woods and absolutely no cell phone reception. Also a local contractor named Rick Forcier had reported seeing Maura on the night of her accident around 8 about 4 to 5 miles from the scene of her abandoned car. Forcier lived on Wild Ammonoosuc Road about 100 yards from where Maura's car was found. Forcier was returning home from a contract job in Franconia about 17 miles away when he observed a young woman who fit Maura's description running eastbound on Route 112. She was a runner and given a 38-43 minute head start she quite possibly could've been that far away by that time, or this guy was just trying to get his name and face in the media, who knows? I know this much the people in Woodsville know something but are afraid to speak out because of fear of repercussions. The main suspect whose name will remain anonymous for now is well connected. His father is a prominent business owner, as are other members of his family. But, the kicker is his step mother is the county attorney. This guys own family believe he could have done something in this case or at the very least been involved.

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Bill 05478 wrote:

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Actually your time line is wrong. 911 received a call from Faith Westman at 7:27pm, police were dispatched at 7:29pm, police did not arrive until 7:46pm. At 7:43pm police received a second 911 call from Mr. Atwood, this did not go through right away as 911 advised all circuits were busy, Mr. Atwood advised there was one female with no PI but appeared shook up. 911 returned the call where Mrs. Atwood advised that her husband saw the crash came home to call but no idea where the girl is. So from the time the witnesses saw Maura how much time did it take them to get home and to the phone to call 911? Could that alone have been 5-10 minutes? So that would put the time around 7:17-7:22pm that she was last seen, police did not arrive until 7:46pm that's anywhere from 24-29 minutes. That in reality is a long time in a place where there is nothing but woods and absolutely no cell phone reception. Also a local contractor named Rick Forcier had reported seeing Maura on the night of her accident around 8 about 4 to 5 miles from the scene of her abandoned car. Forcier lived on Wild Ammonoosuc Road about 100 yards from where Maura's car was found. Forcier was returning home from a contract job in Franconia about 17 miles away when he observed a young woman who fit Maura's description running eastbound on Route 112. She was a runner and given a 38-43 minute head start she quite possibly could've been that far away by that time, or this guy was just trying to get his name and face in the media, who knows? I know this much the people in Woodsville know something but are afraid to speak out because of fear of repercussions. The main suspect whose name will remain anonymous for now is well connected. His father is a prominent business owner, as are other members of his family. But, the kicker is his step mother is the county attorney. This guys own family believe he could have done something in this case or at the very least been involved.

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Bill 05478 wrote:

Yes Grafton County and yes to both now and then. Frankly they can get pissed all they want, sometimes the truth hurts. They know who did it, he is their number one suspect, but they cannot do anything because of the families ties and failure to cooperate. To be honest I believe it is more political than it is the fault of the police in this, their hands have been tied for almost 7 years now. With a lack of a body and lack of any physical evidence or even an eyewitness, they are unable to issue search warrants, and without the cooperation of the family by now most evidence is gone anyways.
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Snowy wrote:

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it's official, folks. the Pointy Boots Brigade, aka Ducks, aka The Sisterhood are now casting their hideous gossip-mongering net in Woodsville, and under the cloak of anonymity, are almost-naming their next suspect/victim.