Maura Murray

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Haverhill Police have not been involved in this case in quite sometime now. It is now being handled by the Cold Case Unit. If you have a Facebook account you can go here, it is run by Maura's aunt:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...
Or you could go to this page as well her aunt is a member here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php...

Thanks. I had read about the Cold Case Unit but thought somehow HPD was still involved. Thanks for the information.

rozShoem wrote:

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Bill,
It's doubtful this guy is a dead "psycho" killer. You might want to visit the very real possibility that he is very much alive and not mentally ill. He is too organized...if there was disorganization he would have slipped up by now. He is not psychotic. Most likely this fellow is very methodical, has well-honed skills and knows exactly what he is doing.

Would you say possible military training with hunter skills?

Here's a hypothetical what if she did get into a car? Why did she refuse help from the school bus driver Butch Atwood or the woman Faith Westman? Is it possible she got into a car driven by someone in uniform? A military uniform? She did go to Westpoint so that would make some sense. But why would she lock the car and take most of her alcohol with her and why was a rag from her trunk stuffed in the tailpipe?

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Yeah residents people who know what is going on in that backwoods town. It's hard to get witnesses when everyone is afraid to talk. But I believe the truth will be out soon and Maura's family can finally have peace and bring her home.
Yeah go to the police without physical evidence the police won't even hear you, not to mention Haverhill Police just refer you to the NH State Police.

Please help me understand. You say that:***So I have been going around the Woodsville area asking questions about this case. People don't say they don't know anything they say they don't want to talk about it, like they are afraid of something***

Then you say:***It's hard to get witnesses when everyone is afraid to talk.***

In another post you state that you have facts, names and statements from the residents.How is that possible from what you yourself have said?
Since you said you moved from FL in o8 to New England and your address here shows CT how can you work for the VSP?
And why would the very people you say do not want to come forward and are afraid to speak out trust a total stranger enough to give him facts, names and statements? I'm missing something here.

I know someone in the SP who would be very interested in what you have to say. Would you be interested in setting up a meeting with him? He will listen to you.

Bill 05478 wrote:

<quoted text>FYI I am employed by the VSP so I do know more than you think buddy.

I love this part.

So tell us. Are you the janitor or an entry level mechanic?

Bill

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Please help me understand. You say that:***So I have been going around the Woodsville area asking questions about this case. People don't say they don't know anything they say they don't want to talk about it, like they are afraid of something***
Then you say:***It's hard to get witnesses when everyone is afraid to talk.***
In another post you state that you have facts, names and statements from the residents.How is that possible from what you yourself have said?
Since you said you moved from FL in o8 to New England and your address here shows CT how can you work for the VSP?
And why would the very people you say do not want to come forward and are afraid to speak out trust a total stranger enough to give him facts, names and statements? I'm missing something here.
I know someone in the SP who would be very interested in what you have to say. Would you be interested in setting up a meeting with him? He will listen to you.

One they will talk to me off record because they know my sons or my ex-wife, they will not go to the local police or SP for fear of retribution. As for me living in CT, I don't, I live in St. Albans, VT., I have no idea why Topix put that down as my location but they did.

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Would you say possible military training with hunter skills?
Here's a hypothetical what if she did get into a car? Why did she refuse help from the school bus driver Butch Atwood or the woman Faith Westman? Is it possible she got into a car driven by someone in uniform? A military uniform? She did go to Westpoint so that would make some sense. But why would she lock the car and take most of her alcohol with her and why was a rag from her trunk stuffed in the tailpipe?

Did Faith offer Maura help?

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Please help me understand. You say that:***So I have been going around the Woodsville area asking questions about this case. People don't say they don't know anything they say they don't want to talk about it, like they are afraid of something***
Then you say:***It's hard to get witnesses when everyone is afraid to talk.***
In another post you state that you have facts, names and statements from the residents.How is that possible from what you yourself have said?
Since you said you moved from FL in o8 to New England and your address here shows CT how can you work for the VSP?
And why would the very people you say do not want to come forward and are afraid to speak out trust a total stranger enough to give him facts, names and statements? I'm missing something here.
I know someone in the SP who would be very interested in what you have to say. Would you be interested in setting up a meeting with him? He will listen to you.

Contact me through my email billwood810@yahoo.com and I can give you more info there.

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Wow you found that page but none of that helps jackass. No witnesses want to come forward and if everyone involved has each others backs you can't prove anything. That's what I've been trying to say but obviously you only read the half of everything.

Okay everyone, look carefully. Now, what I have said is correct but the reason that it won't help now is because no witnesses want to come forward. Before the FBI and all the others I mentioned couldn't and wouldn't do anything to help. Now, I guess I was correct but it doesn't make any difference. Anyone else notice the same patterns. With these people, nothing can make this better. They know what happened, they know who did it but somehow there is no one to talk to, to tell the story. When you lead them to the people that they can talk to even anonymously, then no one wants to talk about it. Its all hush-hush and all very secret. Yet they say they know something. But not enough that they could go to any of these agencies to try to get help about this situation. Is it because they actually don't know anything or because they are afraid of the fits of hysterical laughter that it would provide these agencies when they look into the claims?

Bill

WTF-the-original wrote:

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I love this part.
So tell us. Are you the janitor or an entry level mechanic?
Bill

I see you have woken up from your drunken stupor!!!

Sara wrote:

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Did Faith offer Maura help?

Yes but Maura refused but Faith called 911 anyways knowing the area.

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Contact me through my email billwood810@yahoo.com and I can give you more info there.

Sorry. I don't e-mail anyone from a public forum. Nothing against you. Would you be willing to meet with the SP and tell them what you know?

WTF-the-original wrote:

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Okay everyone, look carefully. Now, what I have said is correct but the reason that it won't help now is because no witnesses want to come forward. Before the FBI and all the others I mentioned couldn't and wouldn't do anything to help. Now, I guess I was correct but it doesn't make any difference. Anyone else notice the same patterns. With these people, nothing can make this better. They know what happened, they know who did it but somehow there is no one to talk to, to tell the story. When you lead them to the people that they can talk to even anonymously, then no one wants to talk about it. Its all hush-hush and all very secret. Yet they say they know something. But not enough that they could go to any of these agencies to try to get help about this situation. Is it because they actually don't know anything or because they are afraid of the fits of hysterical laughter that it would provide these agencies when they look into the claims?
Bill

You know what you are a total fucking moron plain and simple, if it was your kid, which I doubt you could reproduce anyways, you would want all the information you could get. It is very frustrating these people won't talk, but you don't live there asshole so you can't say what they fear or who. My family does unfortunately live there and they now are just starting to talk little by little. It's hard for them because one they fear this family mainly the two male adults and two because my sons are friends with his son. These people have to live every day with this family, not you. It will take time but I am sure someone will finally speak. If you have no interest in helping the family and only putting down everything everyone says then just shut the fuck up. By the way you say you live in NH part time, so where were you February 9, 2004? Because the way you keep attacking everyone on here that does not agree with your infinite wisdom, who knows maybe your the actual suspect and you keep trying to throw everyone off the trail by constantly changing the subjects and being negative.

Bill 05478 wrote:

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I see you have woken up from your drunken stupor!!!

For someone that just joined Topix a few hours ago you sure are getting off on the wrong foot with the people that have been involved for years with MM forums by being so nasty.

Sara wrote:

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Did Faith offer Maura help?

No. She did call and report the accident though.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Sorry. I don't e-mail anyone from a public forum. Nothing against you. Would you be willing to meet with the SP and tell them what you know?

Yes I would, even though what I have to say would be considered hearsay. But anything I can do to help I am there. If it's a dead end and these people are throwing out a name just to throw people off the path again than so be it, but from what I have heard this guy is very capable of doing this. His ex-wife lives here in my town with their son and my sons come over to visit him from time to time. My oldest son is married to his ex-niece (his ex-wife's niece).

Bill 05478 wrote:

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Yes but Maura refused but Faith called 911 anyways knowing the area.

Huh??? Where in the world did you here this? It's not true.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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For someone that just joined Topix a few hours ago you sure are getting off on the wrong foot with the people that have been involved for years with MM forums by being so nasty.

If they want to dish I just dish back, that's all. He has been an ass all day just go back through the threads. I see you people got real far with MM forum too.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Huh??? Where in the world did you here this? It's not true.

And how would you know this?

Bill 05478 wrote:

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You know what you are a total fucking moron plain and simple, if it was your kid, which I doubt you could reproduce anyways, you would want all the information you could get. It is very frustrating these people won't talk, but you don't live there asshole so you can't say what they fear or who. My family does unfortunately live there and they now are just starting to talk little by little. It's hard for them because one they fear this family mainly the two male adults and two because my sons are friends with his son. These people have to live every day with this family, not you. It will take time but I am sure someone will finally speak. If you have no interest in helping the family and only putting down everything everyone says then just shut the fuck up. By the way you say you live in NH part time, so where were you February 9, 2004? Because the way you keep attacking everyone on here that does not agree with your infinite wisdom, who knows maybe your the actual suspect and you keep trying to throw everyone off the trail by constantly changing the subjects and being negative.

Oh shit. You caught me. Damn. Now whatever am I going to do. But wait a minute. I thought that the killer/abductor was a friend of your sons and wife or something. But I am still a suspect? Crap.

Sorry, but if it really comes down to it, I think I can get an alibi for that date and time, but not for you.

So, it appears everyone in your family knows all the principles involved in the abduction/murder of Maura Murray but somehow they just can't figure out a way to do anything about it. Not even anonymously. And you, a member of VSP (janitor, cook, whatever) and you still can't protect, encourage, or do anything to change that? If it was my family I would be telling them to hoist themselves up by their nutsack and tell the authorities of their choice what they know. If I even thought that they might go after my family I would inform the principles involved that if anyone in my family even catches a cold, I will just assume it was their doing and lay waste to anyone I think might be involved. And if I personally see them coming towards me or my family, I'll just assume it is self defense and kill them where they approach. You don't *uck with a mans family.

But hey, I'm not in the state police, so I probably couldn't do it as subtly as you could.

Bill

Bill 05478 wrote:

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If they want to dish I just dish back, that's all. He has been an ass all day just go back through the threads. I see you people got real far with MM forum too.

I can assure you Wowzer has read the thread. Like we have for years now.

You are having trouble answering legitimate questions. You get frustrated. You than lash out because you have no reasonable response for what has been posted. I understand its the anger speaking but all the points I made still stand. There is something very phony about what you are writing. It doesn't add up.

Others are spotting it now also.

But, it has been very entertaining.

Bill