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dll
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Sorry Shack. It should say sharing. Thnx
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mcsmom
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dll....I'm sure the family at some point learned about the search for the suicidal youth. Exactly when I don't know. Someone actively searching in the area would notice more than a passerby. ps. Caps have a history of meaning shouting with this group.....
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Shack
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jldross wrote: <quoted text>
Thanks for your answer Shack. Since you were at the search then do you know is this search related to the bloody knife or what made the PI seek permission to search this home especially? I really don't know what or why they wanted to search any place in particular. I was only there for support for the Murrays. I brought corn chowder. Many other people brought food for the searchers and family. We, the supporters, were kept seperate from the professionals. They were in the lower level. It was a large crowd of people who were all very concerned and hoping that something positive would occur. Sorry I can't give you anything that you don't already know. ps (the people that day were the complete opposite of what you read here)
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dll wrote: <quoted text>
And June 13 2012 post#21616 pg1063
Lymn kiln road and maura to connect the two just doesn't fit for several reasons.
1) time
2) location
3) sex
jwb - I apologize for not replying to your post sooner. I'm new to topix. In fact I only just discovered this forum mid May. As my location shows I'm just over the river in Vt.As I read this forum I remembered the news on tv, radio & the papers from 2004. All of them leaving me & the public with more questions than answers. Not just what happened to MM but also why things were done &/or not done by LE and family. As I cont. to read topix I found there was more information. All one needed to do was look. When I noticed the the GCSL 911 call @ 9:23pm for the missing boy I began to "speculate" that this "could" legitamately & logically explain much of the confusing (published) events of that evening, the witness sightings of someone on foot running away, mysterious unexplained red truck(s) in the area, why HPD only searched in one direction, reports of footprints found in people's yards &/or on the pole line, why the first BOLO was only put out to fire & rescue, possible discrepancies in the GCSL and maybe even some other details.
One doesnt have to read long to know every theory possible has been brought up.If I'd thought of it there was a good chance someone else had too. That's why I posted. To my surprise the response from "long time" posters was minimal. I'm no super sleuth. Just an average person. I figured I should probably read more & post less before responding. I've found several posts within the forums that lead me to believe the theory has merit.
<topix post #1143 pg54
Oct 19, 2010
Cpl Trott found what he deemed were "suspicious footprints" going to a pole line in north Haverhill on Feb 11, 2004.>
<Topix post #1170 pg55
Oct 19, 2010
I believe the footprints by pole line is in reference to the power lines.>
I REMEMBER THIS THIS BEING REPORTED ON MAGIC 97.7 WHEN THE STORY FIRST BROKE.I BELIEVE IT WAS LATER DETERMINED TO BE UNRELATED. AT THE TIME THAT WAS CONFUSING BUT I NOW BELEIVE THEY BELONGED TO THE MISSING BOY.LE KNOWS THE TRACKS ENDED ON LIME KILN RD WHERE THEY FOUND THE BOY UP A POLE. LE WOULD ALSO KNOW WHERE THEY ORIGINATED. I BELEIVE THEY ORIGINATE NEAR MAURA'S ACCIDENT.
<topix post #1155 pg54 Oct 19, 2010 - Some people imply that Maura, her car,(the whole accident thing by the weathered barn), took longer than just 15 minutes from start to end. There were footprints in the other neighbors yard, but who knows if they ever gave it much credit after the fact. Might be part of info that we don't have.>
COULD THIS EXPLAIN THE ARGUMENT OVER JURISDICTION? DID THE MISSING BOY RUN THROUGH THE SAME AREA NEAR THE MM CRASH SITE?
<Topix posted by Fireweed post#16198 on Mar 11, 2012 pg796
reply to citigirl who wrote:
Sorry went through my notes it was not the dog owner that sought us out. It was the woman that heard LE in her back yard arguing as to whose jurisdiction it was.
RobibsonOrdway posted on Nov 13, 2007 regarding NHSP Monaghan's reply to her question:
"He went to the call only to make sure that the accident did not occur in his jurisdiction, which it did not. He then proceeded down 112 - towards my house - and told HPD that he would look on the way. That is when he saw me and stopped. He was actually on his way to another call for a suicidal boy in Pike. He does not fill out a statement because it is not required according to Section 106-B:15. He investigated nothing and saw nothing.">
DOES THIS EXPLAIN WHY JKM MADE NO COMMENT ON HIS ACTIVITY THAT NIGHT? WAS HE LOOKING FOR A MINOR CHILD FROM THE SCHOOL? WOULD BOTH BE PROTECTED BY PRIVACY LAWS?
TO BE CONT Dll this is all interesting and would account for alot that happened if you're right. Is there a description in the log you read of what the missing boy was wearing?
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Dll that's interesting and would explain alot if you're right. Is there a description in the log you read of what the missing boy was wearing?
Sorry if this posts twice but my first reply to your comment has gone missing.
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Shack
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jldross wrote: <quoted text>
Thanks for your answer Shack. Since you were at the search then do you know is this search related to the bloody knife or what made the PI seek permission to search this home especially? Afterthought...I don't remember if knew/read/heard about the "knife" in October 2006....but the last name of the man was Mouxxxx....and supposedly he was the brother of the man who rented the Aframe until July.
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>Grampamo is WTH. JWB you can be dumb as a back of rocks. I remember when you thought that FrmLE was me also. I have only been me. WTF-the-original until Topix changed it to WTH-the-original. That is the only name I need or use. Bill
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dll
Saint Johnsbury, VT
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jldross wrote: Dll that's interesting and would explain alot if you're right. Is there a description in the log you read of what the missing boy was wearing?
Sorry if this posts twice but my first reply to your comment has gone missing. There was no description of what the boy was wearing in the GCSL. Only the 911 call. Here's the link http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/p/suspects.ht... . There are other long time posters here who refer to other logs from the old mm site as well. PS - My first post did that too. Not sure why...maybe I sat on the screen too long without refreshing.
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Shack wrote: <quoted text>ps (the people that day were the complete opposite of what you read here) ps. I have heard that there are people who make believe they care, but where the rubber meets the road, they can only make corn chowder. Completely opposite of some of the people here. Bill
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dll
Saint Johnsbury, VT
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mcsmom wrote: dll....I'm sure the family at some point learned about the search for the suicidal youth. Exactly when I don't know.
Someone actively searching in the area would notice more than a passerby.
ps. Caps have a history of meaning shouting with this group..... Thank you mcsmom. I would be interested in knowing when they found out. The yrs 2004 & 2005 stand out for me. My oldest daughter was graduating in 04 & getting ready to head off to college. She had a PT night job at a local gas station with a MM flyer posted on the door. Between Maura & Brianna in 04 and later the arrest of Howard Godfrey in 05 for the Scoville murder parents in the area were pretty nervous. Re the caps....I have a bad habit of using them. Especially when my eyes are tired. My daughter couldnt figure out why I was always mad at her in my emails...then she finally explained what it meant. I figured it might be prudent to clarify here. Thnx
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jwb
Portland, ME
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zero wrote: http://hide-news.org/Maura-Mur ray don't open this link-it is a junk link-not sure if it has a virus but stay away from it
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Lincolnite
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>
don't open this link-it is a junk link-not sure if it has a virus but stay away from it Thanks for the warning.
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jwb
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jwb
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dll wrote: <quoted text>
And June 13 2012 post#21616 pg1063
Lymn kiln road and maura to connect the two just doesn't fit for several reasons.
1) time
2) location
3) sex
jwb - I apologize for not replying to your post sooner. I'm new to topix. In fact I only just discovered this forum mid May. As my location shows I'm just over the river in Vt.As I read this forum I remembered the news on tv, radio & the papers from 2004. All of them leaving me & the public with more questions than answers. Not just what happened to MM but also why things were done &/or not done by LE and family. As I cont. to read topix I found there was more information. All one needed to do was look. When I noticed the the GCSL 911 call @ 9:23pm for the missing boy I began to "speculate" that this "could" legitamately & logically explain much of the confusing (published) events of that evening, the witness sightings of someone on foot running away, mysterious unexplained red truck(s) in the area, why HPD only searched in one direction, reports of footprints found in people's yards &/or on the pole line, why the first BOLO was only put out to fire & rescue, possible discrepancies in the GCSL and maybe even some other details.
One doesnt have to read long to know every theory possible has been brought up.If I'd thought of it there was a good chance someone else had too. That's why I posted. To my surprise the response from "long time" posters was minimal. I'm no super sleuth. Just an average person. I figured I should probably read more & post less before responding. I've found several posts within the forums that lead me to believe the theory has merit.
<topix post #1143 pg54
Oct 19, 2010
Cpl Trott found what he deemed were "suspicious footprints" going to a pole line in north Haverhill on Feb 11, 2004.>
<Topix post #1170 pg55
Oct 19, 2010
I believe the footprints by pole line is in reference to the power lines.>
I REMEMBER THIS THIS BEING REPORTED ON MAGIC 97.7 WHEN THE STORY FIRST BROKE.I BELIEVE IT WAS LATER DETERMINED TO BE UNRELATED. AT THE TIME THAT WAS CONFUSING BUT I NOW BELEIVE THEY BELONGED TO THE MISSING BOY.LE KNOWS THE TRACKS ENDED ON LIME KILN RD WHERE THEY FOUND THE BOY UP A POLE. LE WOULD ALSO KNOW WHERE THEY ORIGINATED. I BELEIVE THEY ORIGINATE NEAR MAURA'S ACCIDENT.
<topix post #1155 pg54 Oct 19, 2010 - Some people imply that Maura, her car,(the whole accident thing by the weathered barn), took longer than just 15 minutes from start to end. There were footprints in the other neighbors yard, but who knows if they ever gave it much credit after the fact. Might be part of info that we don't have.>
COULD THIS EXPLAIN THE ARGUMENT OVER JURISDICTION? DID THE MISSING BOY RUN THROUGH THE SAME AREA NEAR THE MM CRASH SITE?
<Topix posted by Fireweed post#16198 on Mar 11, 2012 pg796
reply to citigirl who wrote:
Sorry went through my notes it was not the dog owner that sought us out. It was the woman that heard LE in her back yard arguing as to whose jurisdiction it was.
RobibsonOrdway posted on Nov 13, 2007 regarding NHSP Monaghan's reply to her question:
"He went to the call only to make sure that the accident did not occur in his jurisdiction, which it did not. He then proceeded down 112 - towards my house - and told HPD that he would look on the way. That is when he saw me and stopped. He was actually on his way to another call for a suicidal boy in Pike. He does not fill out a statement because it is not required according to Section 106-B:15. He investigated nothing and saw nothing.">
DOES THIS EXPLAIN WHY JKM MADE NO COMMENT ON HIS ACTIVITY THAT NIGHT? WAS HE LOOKING FOR A MINOR CHILD FROM THE SCHOOL? WOULD BOTH BE PROTECTED BY PRIVACY LAWS?
TO BE CONT good post DLL. Do you think the Becket school was looking for the youth several hours before Mauras crash? Nothing in the logs for local LE prior to CS being summoned much later. lime kiln road is a good 6 miles from the crash site etc.
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jwb
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dll wrote: <quoted text>
And June 13 2012 post#21616 pg1063
Lymn kiln road and maura to connect the two just doesn't fit for several reasons.
1) time
2) location
3) sex
jwb - I apologize for not replying to your post sooner. I'm new to topix. In fact I only just discovered this forum mid May. As my location shows I'm just over the river in Vt.As I read this forum I remembered the news on tv, radio & the papers from 2004. All of them leaving me & the public with more questions than answers. Not just what happened to MM but also why things were done &/or not done by LE and family. As I cont. to read topix I found there was more information. All one needed to do was look. When I noticed the the GCSL 911 call @ 9:23pm for the missing boy I began to "speculate" that this "could" legitamately & logically explain much of the confusing (published) events of that evening, the witness sightings of someone on foot running away, mysterious unexplained red truck(s) in the area, why HPD only searched in one direction, reports of footprints found in people's yards &/or on the pole line, why the first BOLO was only put out to fire & rescue, possible discrepancies in the GCSL and maybe even some other details.
One doesnt have to read long to know every theory possible has been brought up.If I'd thought of it there was a good chance someone else had too. That's why I posted. To my surprise the response from "long time" posters was minimal. I'm no super sleuth. Just an average person. I figured I should probably read more & post less before responding. I've found several posts within the forums that lead me to believe the theory has merit.
<topix post #1143 pg54
Oct 19, 2010
Cpl Trott found what he deemed were "suspicious footprints" going to a pole line in north Haverhill on Feb 11, 2004.>
<Topix post #1170 pg55
Oct 19, 2010
I believe the footprints by pole line is in reference to the power lines.>
I REMEMBER THIS THIS BEING REPORTED ON MAGIC 97.7 WHEN THE STORY FIRST BROKE.I BELIEVE IT WAS LATER DETERMINED TO BE UNRELATED. AT THE TIME THAT WAS CONFUSING BUT I NOW BELEIVE THEY BELONGED TO THE MISSING BOY.LE KNOWS THE TRACKS ENDED ON LIME KILN RD WHERE THEY FOUND THE BOY UP A POLE. LE WOULD ALSO KNOW WHERE THEY ORIGINATED. I BELEIVE THEY ORIGINATE NEAR MAURA'S ACCIDENT.
<topix post #1155 pg54 Oct 19, 2010 - Some people imply that Maura, her car,(the whole accident thing by the weathered barn), took longer than just 15 minutes from start to end. There were footprints in the other neighbors yard, but who knows if they ever gave it much credit after the fact. Might be part of info that we don't have.>
COULD THIS EXPLAIN THE ARGUMENT OVER JURISDICTION? DID THE MISSING BOY RUN THROUGH THE SAME AREA NEAR THE MM CRASH SITE?
<Topix posted by Fireweed post#16198 on Mar 11, 2012 pg796
reply to citigirl who wrote:
Sorry went through my notes it was not the dog owner that sought us out. It was the woman that heard LE in her back yard arguing as to whose jurisdiction it was.
RobibsonOrdway posted on Nov 13, 2007 regarding NHSP Monaghan's reply to her question:
"He went to the call only to make sure that the accident did not occur in his jurisdiction, which it did not. He then proceeded down 112 - towards my house - and told HPD that he would look on the way. That is when he saw me and stopped. He was actually on his way to another call for a suicidal boy in Pike. He does not fill out a statement because it is not required according to Section 106-B:15. He investigated nothing and saw nothing.">
DOES THIS EXPLAIN WHY JKM MADE NO COMMENT ON HIS ACTIVITY THAT NIGHT? WAS HE LOOKING FOR A MINOR CHILD FROM THE SCHOOL? WOULD BOTH BE PROTECTED BY PRIVACY LAWS?
TO BE CONT Good post DLL Do you think there was a search for the youth way prior than when CS got called to assist with the youth? Nothing is in the logs about it.
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jwb
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yikes- sorry about the multiple posts- The posts weren't posting so I tried again.
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jwb
Portland, ME
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Off topic Wife just called to tell me that we just had a huge bear at the back sliding door. She luckily saw him in time too shut the door.
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[QUOTE who="jwb”] Wife just called to tell me that we just had a huge bear at the back sliding door. She luckily saw him in time too shut the door.[/QUOTE] Probably an undercover G-man in disguise. Was the bear carrying multiple IDs issued by the Feds?
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JWB
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9:2O HPD gets a call from a person named chris a counselor at Becket school about a youth (poss suicide attemt). Took off on lime kiln road to go to powerlines. This is no where near the crash site and the search for the youth started well after Mauras crash. CS and EMS were disaptched. Becket School is near Lime Kiln road and this is not near Mauras crash site at all.
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JWB
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The confusing this is how could JKM have been going to Pike for a potential suicide if RO saw him an hour and a half plus prior to the Call from the Becket school to HPD about the boy. Now there was another possible suicide earlier that night and that shows up in the Lisbon Logs. That happened prior to Mauras crash and JKM is in communication with dispatch about being avail if they need him. This suspect was not a youth and guns were involved. Maybe RO got her facts mixed up?
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