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jldross wrote:

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Lighthouse or FRMLe do you know why LE was not present at the search or called to collect the evidence? Wouldn't it ruin the evidence for a PI to take the carpet to LE? Maybe I'm confused but if PI took his own sample for separate testing then why wasn't it tested by the PI for a DNA match if the PI is working for the family?

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JWB wrote:

The confusing this is how could JKM have been going to Pike for a potential suicide if RO saw him an hour and a half plus prior to the Call from the Becket school to HPD about the boy.
Now there was another possible suicide earlier that night and that shows up in the Lisbon Logs. That happened prior to Mauras crash and JKM is in communication with dispatch about being avail if they need him. This suspect was not a youth and guns were involved. Maybe RO got her facts mixed up?

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GrampaMo wrote:

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Jwb earlier on this forum (have no idea which page I saw it) there was talk of him speaking to RO and at the time no one seemed to know why he was in vicinity
One guess was that he was on his way home from work and offered to help lookl. I think it was shack that said what town he lived in and it made sense he would go home that way. I don' t remember RO mention he was going to a possible suicide attempt. How would she know that?
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I can't answer why LE was not present or if they were even called. I don't know and I would like frmLE to comment on this if he can.
The second part of your question about the PI testing for a DNA match on the carpet raises the most questions. I don't have any more knowledge than anyone else does about the case but lets think about this:
Obviously any PI would test the carpet. If they didn't what use would it be using a PI that doesn't test possible evidence? Also why would people claim for it to be human blood? Are we to believe that only a partial test was made?

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jwb wrote:

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I Believe the PI were helping out and offering their time etc at no charge.
Is this fact? I am not sure but If that is the case then I would imagine that testing for DNA is expensive so they tested with luminol (not exp) and gave the carpet samples to NHSP to do DNA and we don't know the conclusions of it for obvious reasons.
Is my assumption wrong here? I have no knowledge that PI were paid or not paid etc. IDK

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I have another question. In many of the ID Disappeared shows LE usually releases the last known picture of the victim (Walmart footage, gas station footage) How come the ATM pictures were never shown?
How many people had face to face interactions with her after her first crash? How many friends saw her before she left?

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jwb wrote:

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good question and I don't think that has been answered on this forum but definitely discussed with multiple assumptions. You would think that at least the family would have been able to view any videos but that was not the case as citigirl has replied. Yep dumbfounding- Theories welcomed lighthouse (in my book).
If I were Fred I would go to court and simply ask to see the videos. I know he did try and get info released etc..but I would seek to see any videos to simply identify his daughter.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Well I know she dropped off her scrubs to a classmate but did anyone see her? Was she wearing sunglasses or a crazy amount of make up?
When and on what time of day was the last person to see her face?

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jwb wrote:

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The only thing I remember reading was that she was seen leaving campus somewhere between 3:30 and 4:30 I believe- yea I know a big window- Who saw her is in the U-Mass files I am sure.We don't know the video times either.

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JWB wrote:

Personally I was on board with ordering his book but now I am not sure after watching some of his videos and lack of new updates-OH well He did bring new stuff to lite but honestly I am a little discouraged.JMHO

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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JWB,
I absolutely agree with your sentiments there.
It seems to me that Mr Renner called it quits after the Beagle debacle, where some video by Beagle purportedly showed Mr Renner´s son. I guess with a family of his own, he´s got to be careful.
Having written a number of previous books about unsolved murders, it would however seem to me that it likely would take a lot to make Mr Renner back off a project.
Unless he´s got a good deal more material on Maura´s case than he´s been willing to share on his MM blog, I very much doubt that he´ll be able to publish a book on the MM case.
Still, I´m disappointed as well by the lack of any recent blog updates...

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

Surely there must be something incriminating one way or the other being shown in that ATM video, which apparently has not even been shown to the Murray family.
There must be a very specific reason why LE has kept it all under wraps.

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I think so too. Either there was something about the way she looked that they don´t want to share: new hairstyle, something she was wearing, bruising or a blackeye, that would make a true sighting stand apart, or possibly some other person or vehicle was shown in that video. I´d put my money on the former.

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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I still wonder, though, why not even the Murray family apparently has been allowed to see the ATM video.