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I have read a lot about this but maybe I missed something. You stated that you believe she is off in the woods somewhere. What in your opinion is the evidence that happened? Or is it more of a gut feeling?
Simply based on what we know. There were no screams, no evidence of an abduction, no evidence of more than one set of tracks around the car. People actively watched the car and reported nothing suspicious.

It is simply a lack of any evidence that anything happened other than a young lady who was drinking, driving and crashed her car and then ran from the scene. Something repeated hundreds of times a day in this country.

That doesn't mean that something didn't happen minutes, hours, days and miles later. It's possible, but no evidence of that has come to light. The simplest scenario that fulfills our known information is that she ran from the scene, likely to avoid prosecution for DUI with no evidence to the contrary. And even if something did happen miles and/or days later, it still doesn't alter the fact that she simply ran from the car crash.

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Its the bus driver ...thats what I think dig deeper there ..he called to distract ...

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Its the bus driver ...thats what I think dig deeper there ..he called to distract ...
Excellent well expressed argument. When there isn't enough evidence or even substance in the topic to make an argument express it in fragmentation. This way.....people will look.....at....it.....and think there might.....be more....to it.

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Stud wrote:
<quoted text> maybe Fred gave MM the 4G's for her big getaway?
He may have given it to her for a variety of reasons.maybe the disturbing phone call she recieved was involved...
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Bring the heat. Judging by James Renner's instagram profile, he's in Hollywood. Interesting. I'm guessing the Maura Murray investigation he is conducting is not the main item on his plate. I wouldn't expect updates anytime soon.
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He may have given it to her for a variety of reasons.maybe the disturbing phone call she recieved was involved...
good point.

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Just me wrote:
Its the bus driver ...thats what I think dig deeper there ..he called to distract ...
What makes you think so? I think LE would have thoroughly investigated him as the last known person to see her. Too late for any new answers now that he's passed away, but he did go home to his family and call police and then allowed LE to search his property. So I've never thought he killed her.

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Bring the heat. Judging by James Renner's instagram profile, he's in Hollywood. Interesting. I'm guessing the Maura Murray investigation he is conducting is not the main item on his plate. I wouldn't expect updates anytime soon.
So you have decided to not tell us why Renner is apparently your hero or if he is a relative of yours.

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Its the bus driver ...thats what I think dig deeper there ..he called to distract ...
Is that you Shack?

The only imbecile I had ever heard try to implicate SBD. Same halting disjointed way of writing also.

Oh well, there had to be at least one more person who would try to implicate the most examined, and cleared person in this case.

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Is that you Shack?
The only imbecile I had ever heard try to implicate SBD. Same halting disjointed way of writing also.
Oh well, there had to be at least one more person who would try to implicate the most examined, and cleared person in this case.
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SBD was cleared?When?And by Who???Has LE told you everyone thats been cleared?

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SBD was cleared?When?And by Who???Has LE told you everyone thats been cleared?
The specifics are years old. Again, common sense says that if he was a person of interest, would he have been allowed to leave the state? Would he not have been mentioned as a POI? Wouldn't have someone (someone reputable, not Shack) have mentioned he was a POI? Or that he failed a polygraph? It was stated and heard by more than myself that he passed a polygraph. All this happened years ago. Does someone still figure he dragged Maura away from the car while concealing her under his coat and onto the school bus then making a call to the police? I could go on and on about how absurd the concept is but really, if you are making an accusation that he did something. Than the burden of proof is on you, not us, to prove such an accusation. Throughout this entire case there has been no suspect listed or even a person of interest. Does that mean anything to you? It should mean something to any thinking person.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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..Throughout this entire case there has been no suspect listed or even a person of interest. Does that mean anything to you? It should mean something to any thinking person.
Bill
Then how could anybody be cleared? You say you "heard" it. Can you share with us from whom you heard it?

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SBD was cleared?When?And by Who???Has LE told you everyone thats been cleared?
He was trusted thru Fish and Game to teach the area children Hunter Safety Course. He was trusted to drive our children on a school bus and he was a nice man.Some of his last words were that he wished he had never stopped that night. Words can no longer hurt him. His bones have already been picked clean by the vultures here.So knock your socks off if you feel you must.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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The specifics are years old. Again, common sense says that if he was a person of interest, would he have been allowed to leave the state? Would he not have been mentioned as a POI? Wouldn't have someone (someone reputable, not Shack) have mentioned he was a POI? Or that he failed a polygraph? It was stated and heard by more than myself that he passed a polygraph. All this happened years ago. Does someone still figure he dragged Maura away from the car while concealing her under his coat and onto the school bus then making a call to the police? I could go on and on about how absurd the concept is but really, if you are making an accusation that he did something. Than the burden of proof is on you, not us, to prove such an accusation. Throughout this entire case there has been no suspect listed or even a person of interest. Does that mean anything to you? It should mean something to any thinking person.
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Bill as good as this post is, you probably should not put much time into making a rebuttal off of an argument that originated off of a weak sentence fragment.

If someone truly thought it was the bus driver let them put together a logical argument. It was in a sentence fragment because there isn't a strong argument, and now they will try to twist your words to try to add to an argument where the only attempted point.....was....in a fragmented sentence.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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He was trusted thru Fish and Game to teach the area children Hunter Safety Course. He was trusted to drive our children on a school bus and he was a nice man.Some of his last words were that he wished he had never stopped that night. Words can no longer hurt him. His bones have already been picked clean by the vultures here.So knock your socks off if you feel you must.
Could you imagine the outcry if it took SBD two years to meet with LE to give a statement? If he brought two lawyers with him how would that look?

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Bill as good as this post is, you probably should not put much time into making a rebuttal off of an argument that originated off of a weak sentence fragment.
If someone truly thought it was the bus driver let them put together a logical argument. It was in a sentence fragment because there isn't a strong argument, and now they will try to twist your words to try to add to an argument where the only attempted point.....was....in a fragmented sentence.
You are absolutely correct. I suspect that it is just a troll but it was still worth reminding people reading that it is the duty of the accuser to make the case, not the other way around.

And you are also correct that it wasn't a strong argument, it actually wasn't an argument they made at all. It was a statement of fact, with nothing to back it up. It was very similar to the turds that Shack would periodically lob over the wall and watch people scurry around running from the stench trying to clean up the mess.

And you are also correct that I shouldn't spend much time with them, and actually it takes me very little time to construct those types of posts, I had to do it a lot when Shack was around. It's second nature at this point and can practically do them in my sleep.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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Excellent well expressed argument. When there isn't enough evidence or even substance in the topic to make an argument express it in fragmentation. This way.....people will look.....at....it.....and think there might.....be more....to it.
Lighthouse 101,

Off subject but, I was passed by a Hyundai Sonata yesterday with Veteran vanity plates--Lighthouse on rt. 101. I....assume...it..was...you..I ..mean...Lighthouse..on rt. 101...All of...the...evidence...points.. .to you....unless of course it was just a coincidence...!

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Lighthouse 101,
Off subject but, I was passed by a Hyundai Sonata yesterday with Veteran vanity plates--Lighthouse on rt. 101. I....assume...it..was...you..I ..mean...Lighthouse..on rt. 101...All of...the...evidence...points.. .to you....unless of course it was just a coincidence...!
Coincidence? Not a chance. Had to be me. Should have flashed your lights and got me to pull over.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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Could you imagine the outcry if it took SBD two years to meet with LE to give a statement? If he brought two lawyers with him how would that look?
Do you remember who said or where you read that Fred didn't meet with investigators for two years? I'm not doubting you but would like to read more about that.

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Do you remember who said or where you read that Fred didn't meet with investigators for two years? I'm not doubting you but would like to read more about that.
I would never be upset with you or anyone that questioned my opinion or my references. Questioning brings about educated discussion.

JR makes note of this a couple of times on his blog. Check the 2011 section first. I believe it is there.

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