Maura Murray

I'm dropping in just to relay what I've come across in researching Maura's case and others particularly Brianna Maitlands.

Please try to refrain from backlashing this post. I'm not trying to tie any one case to another nor am I dumping on NH LE or it's citizens.

We can't ignore though that the peaceful solitude of many of the places we go to escape have changed. Especially since 09/11.

Brianna had been on a shopping expedition to the mall with her mother as a sort of mini celebration for her earning her GED. They became separated at the mall, eventually leaving together, Brianna's mother noticed she was visibly shaken, but didn't press her for details.

Neither instance of what upset these two girls can be tied to anything conclusive.

Both girls left behind cars that appear to have been backed in and staged as accidents.

Both cases involve witnesses who noted a truck in the area.

much as yours is a very intelligent post....one seeking and prompting additional details from readers about Maura and/or Brianna, if known.....i do not regard my personal life to have necessarily become altered by the events of 9/11, with the exception of reasonable pause for having a direct relative living in manhattan.
in other words, i don't perceive life in my community and the surrounds of boston to be appreciably changed, or more dangerous, day to day; and i don't harbor fears about abduction, with the exception of children, whom need vigilant supervision....according to their environment.

the suggestion seems to be, by your account, that during the period of time when Brianna was separated from her mother, there might have been contact with an individual(s) or a situation(s) that caused her to be upset.

indeed, Maura, too, was believed to have reacted by being upset....but to a phone call.

Brianna was known to use drugs? or be in the company of drug users?

was Maura?

is it not true that the police declared there to be no relationship between the two cases?

while the connection could be interesting, and i suppose anything is possible, Maura, or a female resembling her, was seen at the accident site, and, therefore, it has been presumed the final location of the saturn was not staged.

This reminds me that not long after Maura, another woman in the area was just about abducted. She said the man was slight, not tall with a blunt haircut. That she hung onto the door or something and managed to be seen and/or get away at that point. I don't recall where that was, do you?

When I say area, I just mean it was close enough around for the news bloggers to wonder about a connection, 90 mile radias?. And really, I should have said not long after Brianna went missing is when this happened. My bad

Don't you people have a life?

retarded wrote:

Don't you people have a life?

More than you do as you troll topix and newszap, we are all glad to see you aren't in denial anymore about the fact you are retarded. That's the first step in recovery.

Perhaps it would be prudent to discuss ways these two cases, Maura and Brianna's yield similarities.

If several people were involved in one or the other, the circumstances would bubble closer to the surface of exposure, as compared to a single person who may be keeping information to themselves.

To begin, in both cases, vehicles were abandoned in a manner that LE initially announced the driver had left the scene under voluntary circumstances, after a minor accident.

*To begin, in both cases, vehicles were abandoned in a manner that LE initially announced the driver had left the scene under voluntary circumstances, after a minor accident.*

ok; yes.

mcsmom wrote:

Both girls left behind cars that appear to have been backed in and staged as accidents.

I have nothing better to do right now so I'll play. I also don't know what purpose using them both in the same sentence accomplishes but like I said, I'll play.

I consider this statement to be incorrect. I believe neither to be staged. It clearly looks to me as Brianna's car backed up rapidly and in that process she hit the house and actually got hung up so the car could not move any more. And I believe that Maura's car was similarly stuck after her accident with her drive wheels unable to get traction.

In memory of SBD

Bill

hi

WTF-the-original wrote:

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I have nothing better to do right now so I'll play. I also don't know what purpose using them both in the same sentence accomplishes but like I said, I'll play.
I consider this statement to be incorrect. I believe neither to be staged. It clearly looks to me as Brianna's car backed up rapidly and in that process she hit the house and actually got hung up so the car could not move any more. And I believe that Maura's car was similarly stuck after her accident with her drive wheels unable to get traction.
In memory of SBD
Bill

would it be slightly more correct to say Brianna's CAR hit the house/barn? it's not known if SHE was the driver?

i, too, don't believe in staging.

need to run out....i'll rely on you to manage fact-tracking.

I guess since neither girl has been found despite accusations, confessions, murder weapons, and last but not least aliens......it appeals to my human side to compare their cases again. I do need to clarify that information gleaned over the years may or may not be accurate. I began with their vehicles because the initial perception by LE was similar in that both drivers left the scene questionably involving alcohol. Briannas car had vomit on the drivers side door/floor as questionably Mauras had splattering of what appears to be vomit in the same general area. Both scenes have drinking containers outside the vehicles.Maura's bottle had an alcohol smell according to Sgt Smith, and Brianna had a used lime wedge on her trunk and a coffee cup on the ground.

The officer that found Brianna's vehicle never called it in to headquarters. He ended his shift that night and went on leave for 3 days. When he returned to work he was asked by his superiors about the car. He admitted he had found the vehicle that night and that it was backed into the barn. He also stated that the drivers side door was open completely and that there were 2 paychecks on the front seat from the Black Lantern Restaurant. He also found a bracelet on the ground which he tossed onto the front seat and then closed the door. He then left the scene to go home and never reported it that night feeling it was just an abandoned vehicle.

BOY was he WRONG OR WHAT? I wonder if he is still employed as a police officer.

Total improper police procedure..!!!!!

OH.....BUT He did write it down in his notebook.

Brianna's car was found backed into the barn BUT WAS NOT STUCK.

Maura's car was found facing westbound in the eastbound lane ....ON THE ROAD...Not in the ditch.

This info is from the tow truck drivers...FIRSTHAND.

K-9 handler wrote:

The officer that found Brianna's vehicle never called it in to headquarters. He ended his shift that night and went on leave for 3 days. When he returned to work he was asked by his superiors about the car. He admitted he had found the vehicle that night and that it was backed into the barn. He also stated that the drivers side door was open completely and that there were 2 paychecks on the front seat from the Black Lantern Restaurant. He also found a bracelet on the ground which he tossed onto the front seat and then closed the door. He then left the scene to go home and never reported it that night feeling it was just an abandoned vehicle.
BOY was he WRONG OR WHAT? I wonder if he is still employed as a police officer.
Total improper police procedure..!!!!!

The officer drove up to Brianna's car in the middle of that snowy night. The headlights were still on, the door wide open. He took note of the items outside the car and noticed the paychecks on the seat. The officer did drive the mile back to the Black Lantern to further investigate, but they were closed.
He was there when Bri's mom and dad came in on Monday to file a report.
There was a white truck spotted in the area near the barn for several hours that day. It was one month, 10 days after Maura.
And not long after neighbors recall hearing loud yelling or argueing, they took it back saying it could have been on a different night. Tourists from Canada came by and took that famous shot of the car backed into the barn. Maybe it was one of their items of clothing found on the ground, on top of the snow, near her car. A previous boyfriend to Bri had driven by as well saying the lights were still flashing, but decided not to stop.
Brianna knew martial arts. She declined to use this skill on the two girls who beat her up at the party 2 weeks or so prior. She took her blows and went out to her ride to take a nap until the people she rode along with, were done partying. Brianna got a black eye that night.
But if someone were abducting her and she knew them somehow, I can undertand not using her skills. Brianna was a very kind person and would not be quick to hurt anyone, suggesting to me, she may have known this person.

YES....He did go to the Black Lantern afterwards and it was closed. But....He still should have done more that night considering the circumstances. JMHO

seems very difficult to draw any relationship and parallels to very different circumstances. as previously mentioned, the police formally announced that Brianna's case and Maura's case are unrelated.

No doubt, it is very difficult.

In researching today I became aware again of the Pamela Webb case. DNA database and CODIS was just emerging in 1989 (second case nationally in Portland, Maine December 1989, McLeod v. people) and so I was looking for unsolved homicides in Maine prior to 1989 that may have prompted someone to be certain no DNA evidence was left at a crime scene making an earlier murder and discovery of a body likely a precipitating factor.

I took note of the unsolved homicide of Joyce McLain in East Millinocket Maine.

Sadly, today is the 30th year anniversary of her death.

The Vidocq Society is a Philadelphia-based organization of international and prominent investigators that offers free advice on unsolved cases.

It would be interesting to hear what they would have to say.......