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mcsmom wrote:

<quoted text>This means absolutely nothing.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Again, I sometimes get easily confused. Are you saying that if Fred only rented a room with one bed, that doesn't mean that he didn't expect Maura? Do you know that Maura had a habit of sleeping in a chair or on the floor in dads room? Or something else? If Renner is correct, it would indicate to me that he didn't expect Maura that night. Or are you saying that Renner's information means nothing. Again, I'm confused what you mean.
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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Wow dude, that's is a truly horrible thing to say.
Interesting u say it's a key ingredient, I would agree, some sort of hard liquor would be required.
But Maura only took a bottle of kahlua so that would mean she most likely didn't go for a squaw walk right?

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mcsmom wrote:

Who would benefit from Maura's car being further damaged while at NHSP impound lot?
I can't imagine this would in anyway benefit family as dozens of pictures of Maura's car have been taken indicating the extent of the damage at the time of her disappearance.

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mcsmom wrote:

Who would benefit from Maura's car being further damaged while at NHSP impound lot?
I can't imagine this would in anyway benefit family as dozens of pictures of Maura's car have been taken indicating the extent of the damage at the time of her disappearance.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Thats a back firing statement. FM signed the car over to the storage yard to be smashed. This is mentioned in the court documents. So when you ask that leading question it backfires. Someone who knows their facts could say: who ever would have benefitted from that was assisted by family as well for signing over the car immediately to be smashed. As a matter of fact had LE not reposessed the car it would have beeen smashed. Technically you should be greatful that LE saved it in the first place. You won't give them any credit for that you just want to blame them for more dents.
I'm not saying FM did anything wrong, but acording to court documents he did sign the car back over to the storage yard.

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mcsmom wrote:

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Sorry, I should have clarified. IMO it means that we can't infer anything from a single bed scenario. It could have been the last room, last non smoking room, if there was a rollaway, he could have been expecting Maura, he could also not have been expecting Maura.
Also, I added a couple more pics to my For Maura photo stream on flickr. Paris wanted to see the conditions at the top that day.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/88362310 @N06

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Regardless of what happened or how FM got stuck with or planned a single bed room, are you saying a 21 female has more desire to sleep in her father's hotel room with one bed vs sleeping in a single dorm room by herself?
I guess the real question is what benefit does she get for even wanting to go to sleep in her father's hotel room?

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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FM made mention to the bottle of Jack. I wasn't trying to make a horrible comment.
I really don't understand how you always come back to her only taking the bottle of kahlua. Just because she bought something that day (Kahlua) doesn't mean that is all she has. It has to cross your mind that maybe she already had other alchol in her posession that she didn't need to buy.
If someone goes out and buys bullets one day and later on that day shoots someone would you assume that person is innocent because they didn't buy the gun that day?

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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What would tell me that she was expected to stay the night would be he got a room with two beds. That would be the first clue :)

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Wasnt it confirmed by renner that it was a single bed room?

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Yes he verified it.

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He could have called from the hotel phone, but if he did LE would have given those over along with the cellphone bills as per the FOI.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Whoever said you can't buy a car and drive it off the same lot in mass us just plain wrong. I remember this coming up about a month ago,iirc, a couple people said that but then a few other people posted that they actually did it personally.
I bought my girl a Subaru outback, we went to the dealer, paid cash and drove it off the lot the same day.
Whoever said you can't do that is just wrong and idk where they got that from, perhaps they were theorizing that you can't do that?

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just me wrote:

<quoted text>Hot mail. Anybody can learn it. Whenever you want to view source, that is:the page you're on.....a whole new page will show up documenting the changing of "hats" (in otherwords screennames) it shows you when people judge and if lucky, you will spot who.
It's right below "add to favorites" when you right click on a page. For photos, you can find the properties and trace it back sometimes all the way to the originator of the picture. Even through all the re-naming of jpegs. Alot og hullaballu, but a fun thing to know.
Sorry I got so frustrated, but it seemed like a kick to me to see this same person opposing me so.

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Maruchan wrote:

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Please provide a link to the post where Renner verified it.
I did a search of his blog. The only place where Renner mentions there being a single bed in the room is in this statement:
"Fred's reluctance to sit down with detectives. He refused to be formally interviewed, on record, by police for 2 YEARS. 2 Years, his daughter was missing and he wouldn't meet with police. And when he does, he brings lawyers. What was said in that interview will remain secret until this case is solved. But more than one source has told me off the record that some of the questions pertained to the nature of his relationship with Maura and why on earth she came to his single-bed motel room at 2:30 in the morning and stayed through the night."
This is not a verification that Fred had a single-bed room at the Quality Inn. This is hearsay. I have seen no evidence anywhere that Fred had a single-bed room. Hotels generally have one single queen/king rooms and two full/queen bed rooms. That is what the Comfort Inn, earlier the Quality Inn, has now. "Sources" "off the record" is not a verification of anything. If you have never heard of primary and secondary sources, you should Google it.
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I forgot to mention this earlier. Fred states that the person at the front desk made several calls for him, and that he made some from his room. Since none of those records have been produced, either LE didn't get them or they have been held back as many other records have in this case. The lack of these records does not mean that those calls did not take place.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Regardless of what happened or how FM got stuck with or planned a single bed room, are you saying a 21 female has more desire to sleep in her father's hotel room with one bed vs sleeping in a single dorm room by herself?
I guess the real question is what benefit does she get for even wanting to go to sleep in her father's hotel room?

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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Good point on where maura likely had her conversation with Billy.
the pool and fitness center were in a different building from the actual rooms at this particular hotel. It would make sense for her to go there. Of course she would have to have a key to access the pool building.
I can't fathom why she would've went to the hotel that night.
It makes no sense to me. If her get-together took place anywere other than her own dorm, maybe, it would make more sense then for her to go to her dad's hotel. Otherwise, that time of the morning, leaving the building you live in to get out and drive seven miles when you don't have to ... makes NO sense.
I have always wondered if her father maybe had too much to drink (at the Amherst Brew Pub) and therefore needed maura to drive him to the hotel. but seeing as how they were also with maura's friend, I think the father would've been more responsible.