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Pointless Endeavor wrote:

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I would think that almost nine years of this fanciful mythos would fill a large, fictional crime novel or perhaps even a whole series of books or one heck of a Hollywood mystery movie.

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SamIAM wrote:

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Prove it. You saying so doesn't make it a fact. How is you saying it's a fact differ from Bill saying "someone told me" <---- a statement you don't want to accept at face value, and yet you want everyone on this forum to accept your above statement as a fact just because you say so.
I believe that Bill did not want to name a name on his "someone told me" because that would have meant naming someone local to the area ... if that's the situation, he was right not to name the individual.

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findmaura wrote:

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Great..I was hoping it might possibly help understand more of the local flavor.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

<quoted text>I'm speaking in generalities, common knowledge if you will. We already had a couple girls chime in on the subject, citigirl and I believe Amy. I think elphalba also said something to that effect as well.
Are you saying that you would rather walk miles through the cold rain and snow then accept a ride from a passing motorist who seems nice and helpful? Answer honestly.
I'm sure they're are some girls out there who'd rather walk but they're clearly in the minority. Saying that is not the same thing as saying something that directly contradicts all known, reliable sources.
Try again, sorry but your critisism is wicked stupid.

amy researches wrote:

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One thing I thought about while reading the book was the Kinsman Lodge. In the book, the author stays there. I looked it up and it is located not too far from where the cw supposedly saw someone near 112/116 (not confined to be Maura). Current rates for a single room there according to their web site is $55/night. I don't know if she would have needed a reservation but it crossed my mind that maybe that's a place Maura knew about and/or maybe planned to stay, whether alone or meeting up with someone. I'm guessing LE and family probably checked into this long ago however.

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Any generalized connection by location can be made, Amy....but the bigger questions, IMO, are who she might have been traveling with, or traveling to meet, and what prompted her abrupt departure from her academic and social life at UMASS Amherst? Someone knows. Or at least have more clues than the public.

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Oh, I agree. I've just wondered where she might have been running to, if in fact it was Maura the cw saw. And so the thought about Kinsman Lodge struck me as a possibility. But like I said, it's probably been looked into, just like so many other possibilities that have been brought up over the years.

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Maruchan wrote:

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So which is it, Bob? You say one thing and then something completely the opposite.
Lastly, please post the exact quote where Maura's sister Kathleen says that Maura would have taken a ride from a stranger. I found one where she said this: "'She was just like me, very trusting,' Carpenter said.'She would go up to a total stranger. That's how I believe she was taken advantage of. She was too trusting.'"
That is not the same thing as she would take a ride from a stranger. Please provide the quote where her sister says what you claimed in your post.

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SamIAM wrote:

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As I said: Prove it. Show the statistics. You're the one stating it as a fact.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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Your clearly just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
I'll see if I can dig up any sort of statistics on this point but I'm relatying personal experience here. I went co college in NH and VT; I've heard many stories about girls being stranded somewhere and accepting a ride from a kind passerby. On the other hand I have NEVER heard of a girl not taking a ride and walking miles, never, not even once. Not in the summer when it's beautiful out and certainly not in the winter.
I'm stating something that is also common knowledge amongst normal, reasonable people.
Most normal people would agree with me on this point.
If you think it's so wrong why aren't you breaking out a statistic that says its wrong?
Kind of like when bill said that "someone told him" that the snow was only like 8", or some billshit. He said that and I broke out quotes from scarinza, lt Bruno, the sbd and media articles that all stated 2.5' was the snow depth. He stated something that I claimed was wrong, I used reliable sources to show that he was wrong.
How about you break out a source that says what I'm saying is wrong?
I'll see If I can find any legitimate sources on the topic, but what I'm saying is common knowledge

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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Your clearly just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
I'll see if I can dig up any sort of statistics on this point but I'm relatying personal experience here. I went co college in NH and VT; I've heard many stories about girls being stranded somewhere and accepting a ride from a kind passerby. On the other hand I have NEVER heard of a girl not taking a ride and walking miles, never, not even once. Not in the summer when it's beautiful out and certainly not in the winter.
I'm stating something that is also common knowledge amongst normal, reasonable people.
Most normal people would agree with me on this point.
If you think it's so wrong why aren't you breaking out a statistic that says its wrong?
How about you break out a source that says what I'm saying is wrong?
I'll see If I can find any legitimate sources on the topic, but what I'm saying is common knowledge

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Shack wrote:

I hate that swinging a dead cat talk..sickening.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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Yes there are ice fishing shanties right near by on French pond which is, obviously, right down french pond road.
This is one of the places sbd went to go check, French pond. There was a quote I read where he mentioned that kids hung out down there sometimes and he wanted to check the shanties, or something to that effect.
This is one thing that always makes me think that he knew more than he was saying. If he's looking for some girl from mass why would he possibly think she knows where French pond is or that there would be ice fishing shanties to hide in? Idk, but to me that doesn't sound like the place to look if you think some out of town girl went walking somewhere. Why go check French pond but not drive east? French pond isn't the place to look if your looking for an out of town girl that's on foot, imo, that's where you look if you think she's with a local who's trying to hide her.
They don't check east but they check fishing shanties on French pond?? Weird behavior if your lookin for an out of town girl on foot.

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Maruchan wrote:

By the way, Jenkins, I think it is truly pathetic that you use your Topix account to sign in and give yourself Brilliant, Agree, and Helpful/Interesting marks on every single post you make. Sad, really.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Bob aid:**said most girls would take that ride, which is a fact.
Most girls will take a ride from a stranger if they are stranded, this is definitely a fact I don't see how anyone can even try to debate that.**
This is NOT a fact. It's what you think a girl would do. I'm a girl and if I was stranded in a strange place I would NOT take a ride from a stranger, especially if I had just passed a store and several houses that I could walk to for help or to use the phone.

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FYI in the new Mountainside Guide which is published by Northcountry News there is a "Missing"picture of Maura on page 15 with information about her disappearance and asking anyone with info to contact SP or CCU.
This isn't the first time these papers have mentioned her. She hasn't been forgotten like some here would like everyone to believe.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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That's a really good question. I don't think there's a definite answer to it that would apply to all cases.

You gotta remember that if we're talking about a murderer we're already talking about some sick bastard that may not care that it's more difficult to get rid of a body. Somebody like that could drive around for years waiting for an opportunity like that to come up. That could've been like a once in a lifetime opportunity for some sick fuck and when the opportunity finally comes up they would probably take it even though it would b more difficult to dispose of the body.

And you could also look at it the other way too, the Snow would make it harder to dispose of a body yes, but it also provides that much more of an opportunity in that it's way more likely some girl would take a ride than she would under normal conditions. If its summer a girl might just want to walk the miles or hide in the woods whereas in the winter when there's 2.5' of snow on the ground & she's already shivering she'd probably take the ride.

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amy researches wrote:

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Jenkins, I would like to read this quote you are talking about. Do you have a link to the article?
I searched around but this was all I came up with - and I assume this is not the article you are talking about since it doesn't mention the fishing shanties.
"I took a ride around the back roads. I was gone about 15 minutes.
Then I took a ride to French Pond," Atwood told the Caledonian Record.
http://www.whitmanhansonexpress.com/index.php...

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Emmett Dove wrote:

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Thats good news! The "Mountainside Guid" is that like a tourist guide or something?