Maura Murray

OKAY wrote:

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"tight jeans"? your imagination is working overtime.

What the hell are you talkin about?? How exactly is my imagination working overtime?? How exactly is my imagination working at all?? What are you even talking about? How am I imagining??
This post is just more evidence that your full of shit snowy, you are clearly dishonest and are only looking for critisisms of people who don't support the she got lost in the woods theory. It's whack, anybody can say whatever they want as long as it supports the theory she's simply lost in the woods. You don't care if people make things up or use 'someone told me' as a source, as long as it supports your theory.
You are one of the most blatantly dishonest posters I've ever seen on any forum anywhere.

Of course she was wearing tight jeans, what do you think she was wearing baggy jeans?? What do you think she was a skater chick now or something? Maybe they weren't skin tight jeans, idk, but she wasn't wearing baggy jeans. Look at pics of her, show me one pic of her where she's wearing loose fitting jeans, just one and I'll gladly admit I am wrong here.
She is a girl, the vast majority if girls wear tight jeans, that's just common knowledge. Ever pic I've ever seen of her where she's wearing jeans they're always tight jeans. Not super tight, skin tight jeans but definitely not loose or baggy.

So snowy, can you show me one pic of her wearing baggy jeans? Or even jeans that aren't really tight?. If you can't produce a pic like that then I'm gonna have to say that your the one who's imagining things here. I'm basing what I said off of pictures that I've seen of her and what we know about her, where are you gettin that she wasn't wearing tight jeans?? Oh ya, your imagining it. Snowy your just an extremely dishonest person huh?
This critique is just obviously bullshit, it's dishonest and makes no sense. Of course she was wearing tight jeans!! That's what girls wear. Damn snowy, can't you ever come up with a legitimate critisism?? Dumbass

Habs wrote:

I wonder if Maura was insistent on returning to her fathers motel room because she needed to talk to him about what had upset her. The crash screwed that up and screwed her out of the new car on Sunday. She never got to discuss here problem with her father. Thinking out loud, sorry.

Didn't her father, on a documentary, make a comment that Maura would have had another car that week (week she had disappeared)?
Also, about the outgoing call made from Maura's cell phone on Friday Feb 6, 3:40 a.m. to 3:42 a.m....something is strange about that call (to the pizza place). Didn't the supervisor walk Maura back to dorm room around 1:30 a.m. after Maura's tearful episode? A lot of people have stomachs of steel, but many find it difficult to eat anything after an intense tearful episode. Maybe instead of ordering pizza, she phoned the pizza place to speak with someone. She was on the phone for only a couple minutes....maybe the person had left the pizza place. Maybe the someone had borrowed her Saturn? She spoke with her sister, then with her bf, then became tearful & upset, shaking....so much so the supervisor walked her back to her dorm room around 1:30 a.m....before shift ended. Then at 3:40 a.m. Maura phones out for pizza? This doesn't make sense.

Shack wrote:

Ever since the ending of the families forum, there has been seemingly the blaming of the victim/and her family.

Interesting. What I remember most was you and several others blaming innocent people locally, by name, who only tried to help Maura. And we all know how effective your memory is based just upon the the few times you have recently appeared here.

Bill

mcsmom wrote:

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This post reminded me about the relationship between Ernies Towing and the head of parking services at UMASS. Seems like some type of scam was going on back in 2003-2004. Looks like history repeated itself again this year. Doubtful Maura's car remained in one spot for very long while parked at UMASS.

Maybe someone Maura knew used the car for delivering pizza. Maura had phoned the pizza place... It's difficult to believe she phoned out for pizza at 3:40 a.m. after have been so upset, tearful around 1:30 a.m.

Ridiculous wrote:

Habs,
My gut instinct is that she got abducted. I want to be clear in saying that this truly is based on my gut and something as simple as those dogs. The only other factor that would influence this is the fact that I have done alot of research on Serial Killers,sociopaths, psychopathic disorders and psychology in general. I would even be willing to admit that because of this research, my "gut instinct" may already be prejudiced.
I think there is great validity in many of the different theories and opinions and some of them are very well backed up with factual information.
My whole point with my previous post was to show that even with all of the info, theories and speculation,most of us won't budge from our original theory.

It does seem as though she had been abducted. NH has a lot of missing people, especially women. Recall the woman's body that was found not far from the A-frame? So many have searched for Maura...so many investigators, various LE efforts, community effort, family effort...so many have tried to find her. It's doubtful there WERE any serious leads. Wonder if LE in 2004 held the view that investigators hold today that sometimes perps come forth with "information" out of curiosity and to find info regarding the status of the investigation?

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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What the hell are you talkin about?? How exactly is my imagination working overtime?? How exactly is my imagination working at all?? What are you even talking about? How am I imagining??
This post is just more evidence that your full of shit snowy, you are clearly dishonest and are only looking for critisisms of people who don't support the she got lost in the woods theory. It's whack, anybody can say whatever they want as long as it supports the theory she's simply lost in the woods. You don't care if people make things up or use 'someone told me' as a source, as long as it supports your theory.
You are one of the most blatantly dishonest posters I've ever seen on any forum anywhere.
Of course she was wearing tight jeans, what do you think she was wearing baggy jeans?? What do you think she was a skater chick now or something? Maybe they weren't skin tight jeans, idk, but she wasn't wearing baggy jeans. Look at pics of her, show me one pic of her where she's wearing loose fitting jeans, just one and I'll gladly admit I am wrong here.
She is a girl, the vast majority if girls wear tight jeans, that's just common knowledge. Ever pic I've ever seen of her where she's wearing jeans they're always tight jeans. Not super tight, skin tight jeans but definitely not loose or baggy.
So snowy, can you show me one pic of her wearing baggy jeans? Or even jeans that aren't really tight?. If you can't produce a pic like that then I'm gonna have to say that your the one who's imagining things here. I'm basing what I said off of pictures that I've seen of her and what we know about her, where are you gettin that she wasn't wearing tight jeans?? Oh ya, your imagining it. Snowy your just an extremely dishonest person huh?
This critique is just obviously bullshit, it's dishonest and makes no sense. Of course she was wearing tight jeans!! That's what girls wear. Damn snowy, can't you ever come up with a legitimate critisism?? Dumbass

Judging from available photos, I would say her jeans was a regular fit.

Aftermath wrote:

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It does seem as though she had been abducted. NH has a lot of missing people, especially women. Recall the woman's body that was found not far from the A-frame? So many have searched for Maura...so many investigators, various LE efforts, community effort, family effort...so many have tried to find her. It's doubtful there WERE any serious leads. Wonder if LE in 2004 held the view that investigators hold today that sometimes perps come forth with "information" out of curiosity and to find info regarding the status of the investigation?

IIRC the woman whose body was found near the A frame was a victim of domestic violence, not a serial killer roaming the streets abducting women left and right.

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Didn't her father, on a documentary, make a comment that Maura would have had another car that week (week she had disappeared)?
Also, about the outgoing call made from Maura's cell phone on Friday Feb 6, 3:40 a.m. to 3:42 a.m....something is strange about that call (to the pizza place). Didn't the supervisor walk Maura back to dorm room around 1:30 a.m. after Maura's tearful episode? A lot of people have stomachs of steel, but many find it difficult to eat anything after an intense tearful episode. Maybe instead of ordering pizza, she phoned the pizza place to speak with someone. She was on the phone for only a couple minutes....maybe the person had left the pizza place. Maybe the someone had borrowed her Saturn? She spoke with her sister, then with her bf, then became tearful & upset, shaking....so much so the supervisor walked her back to her dorm room around 1:30 a.m....before shift ended. Then at 3:40 a.m. Maura phones out for pizza? This doesn't make sense.

Maura presumably had an eating disorder that reportedly was going out of control. Ording pizza in the wee hours after a tearful episode would be a typical behavior for a bulimic.

Habs wrote:

Israel Keyes committed suicide in an Alaskan prison.

I have just read the news.I am sick to my stomache thinking the coward has possibly left so many families without answers.I could never rule him out in Maura&Briannas cases..

hannah_b wrote:

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Judging from available photos, I would say her jeans was a regular fit.

exactly, regular jeans that most girls wear, which are tight, not baggy..
I'm not saying she was wearing skin-tight jeans or anything like that but girls generally wear jeans that are tight, that fit them. Unlike guys who generally wear more loose fitting jeans.
My whole point was that to describe her jeans as tight is not imagining anything, not ebellishing anything, that's what she was wearing in every pic i've ever seen of her where she's in jeans. That's an honest desciption of all the Jeans I've ever seen her wear in pics.

Now if snowy can show a picture of her wearing jeans that were baggy or loose fitting in any way, I'd gladly admit that I'm wrong but I don't see that happening.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Been reading on these sites for nine years. Thought that I had read every description of what Maura was wearing that night. NEVER heard that description, not once, EVER! Again, to him, these embellishments, these "small" changes that creep in over the years mean nothing to him. No real investigator actually makes up things and adds them to the investigation. That is what keeps tearing at me that he is supposed to be a federal agent? I mean don't they teach you in cop 101 NOT to put your own prejudices and preconceived notions into any investigation? Not to make up things? I would think they would. How is it possible to pass cop school without knowing that? Can you imagine him on a stand during a trial? Christ!
At least he has stopped with the hair bun. That just quietly just stopped being talked about. Something else he "knew" couldn't happen.
Bill

Damn Bill, your just about as dumb as a bag of rocks huh? Or are you just lying?? Since I'm pretty sure your not an idiot I think its safe to assume that your just being your regular old, full of shit self.
Of course she was wearing tight jeans, that's what girls wear. What are you saying that she was wearing baggy jeans?? She's a skater chick now? She's a raver?? Come on, she was a preppy chick from Mass, every pic I've ever seen of her where she's wearing jeans they're always tight, so why would you think she wasn't wearing tight jeans? In any investigation the devil resides in the details, sorry for being more detailed in my description there but I was not embellishing or imagining in any way. Not skin-tight, but the jeans she wore in pics certanly can not be described as loose fitting in any way.

As for me being a federal agent- I don't wanna put myself down here but it's not very hard to become and agent for ICE. It isn't the FBI or CIA we're talking about here. Pretty much any idiot with a degree in criminal justice can get a job with ICE, and trust me there are some IDIOTS working there. ICE is by far the biggest agency under the DHS umbrella. There's like 15-20,000 people working for ICE in 400+ offices around the country, it is not a difficult job to get. I would bet it's much harder to get a good job as an engineer than it is to get a job with ICE. The FBI is another story, it is rather difficult to get a job with them. The position I currently hold is a little harder to get but still nothing crazy, honestly the reason I got the assignment is because of how I look. I'm 33 but I look like I'm about 23 and i do NOT look like a cop like most of the guys that I work with, which can be very advantitious when trying to get people to talk to you. I don't see how it's so hard to believe that I work for ICE, it's not a hard agency to get your foot in the door, at all. Nothing like the FBI or CIA.
And yes, the first thing for an investigator is to leave your preconceived notions at the door and that's exactly what I do. Can you say the same for yourself?? Everything you say is through the lens of your belief that she got drunk and lost in the woods. That's exactly why your forced to use sources like "someone told me". in regards to this case I go strictly by known facts, what was said by LE and witnesses, and evidence....Can you say the same for yourself?? Why does it always seem like you and your buddies are always directly contradicting witness statements and what LE have stated on record? I NEVER do that, anyone who's not biased and HONEST can clearly see that. Everything I base my theories off come directy from quotes from LE or witnesses, not "some guy told me" like you do. If you were basing your theory on legitimate things you would NEVER need to use "someone told me" as a source. You talk a good game Bill but in reality your completely full of shit, your eyes must be turning brown a this point, they just gotta be. If not, you better watch out cuz the will be soon enough.

Hi all ,when Maura called the pizza place she may well have been on the thief list and just refused service.A timeline prior to her vanishing would be great.Still wondering where the saturn and the people Maura knew where over christmas break.take care philip

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Maybe someone Maura knew used the car for delivering pizza. Maura had phoned the pizza place... It's difficult to believe she phoned out for pizza at 3:40 a.m. after have been so upset, tearful around 1:30 a.m.

Well her sister, who everybody basically describes as being her best friend, said that it was more likely that the whole freak out that night was just a ploy to get out of work early than really being something major.
So her best friend thinks that she was really just playing it up so she could get out of work early. I tend to think that something did get her worked up but she probably exaggerated it in order to leave work early, She spoke to billy at 12:07 iirc, they probably got in a fight and she didn't feel like working anymore so she played it up like it was way more major than it was so she could go home early.
The fact that she called for pizza a couple hours later seems to support her sister's theory that it was really just an act to get out of work early. If you're that disturbed by something, so much so that you can't even work, you're probably not gonna be ordering food later that night.
Many peoople have speculated that she had an eating disorder but there is absolutely no evidence I've ever seen to support that assertion. She looked like a healthy young girl to me. People seem to think every skinny girl has an eating disorder, it's actually annoying and I think prejudiced. Just because a girl is thin does not mean she has an eating disorder. The reason I personally find this annoying is because all of my GF's have been thin and people said this about every single one of them, and none of them had an eating disorder. People say this about my current GF and it really pisses me off. This girl eats her ass off and she just doesn't gain weight. I've lived with her for over three years and she definitely does not make herself puke after she eats; yet that doesn't stop people from talking behind her back and saying stuff like that. I've actually had a couple of her friends sit down with me to have like a 'serious talk' with me about her not eating, and then when I tell them that we go out to dinner all the time and she's constantly cooking us stuff they act like i'm in cahoots with her and helping her hide her eating disorder!! It's compledtely ridiculous and it really pisses me off. This is why whenever I hear people saying this about Maura it also pisses me off; we have absolutely nothing to indicate she actually had an eating disorder. Not one person who knew her says that she did, she has no history of if, she's just thin. But she's not too thin, she looks like a healthy beatiful girl to me. The few girls throughout my life that I've known that DID have an eating disorder looked unhealthy. Like a meth addict or something, just a general paleness to their skin, bad teeth and hair, Maura had none of those things. To me it looks like she DIDN'T have an eating disorder.

Just because she was thin does not mean she had an eating disorder. Something that tells me that she most likely didn't have one is the fact that she was such an amazing runner. She held records in long distance running, iirc. She defnitely held records, some high school records that still stand to this day; that means she must have been a pretty healthy girl. The girls I knew with eating disorders weren't breaking any records in track and field i'll tell you that much, they'd probably collapse if they had to run a mile. Obviously that isn't proof of anything but the fact that she was such a good runner, could hike 20 mile trails in a day with her dad is a pretty good indication that in reality she was a healthy girl. Eating disorders are hell on the body, they really tear the body up, kinda like crytal meth does to people as well.

Until some sot of evidence she had an eating disorder comes out I think it's best to assume she didn't...JMHO.

Whiston- A timeline for before she went missing could be helpful. I don't think it would be too hard to put together either, we have a pretty good idea of what she did in those days leading up to her going missing, for the most part at least.

Her car was home in Hanson over the wnter break. We know this because she had just recently drove it back to Amherst after the break.
This is my opinion but I feel like this is why she thought she could drive the car up NH that night. She had just driven it 2.5 hours back to amherst, give or take. Before that she drove it 2.5 hrs home to the south shore. She probably figured if she could drive it 2.5 hrs back to Amherst why couldn't she make it up NH in it? And it appears she was right, she made it up NH just fine in it, there's indications the car stalled going into the curve at the WB but thats another story. The car started up just find for Fred and BIlly when they went to Lavoie's towing to check out the car.
So the car clearly wasnt as bad as the family is making it out to be. I wonder if the family knows this and is intentionally misleading the public for whatever reason, or if maybe maura herself was misleading her family so she could get a new car. The car wasn't great, no saturn is, but it wasn't as bad as it's been descibed in the media.
Lots of Q's about that car and few answers, it's interestng I'll tell you that much.
But we do know that it was home on the south shore with her for winter break.

Something I find absolutely perplexing is the fact that Fred sgned the car over to Lavoie's in lieu of paying the bill for the tow. That's just weird, your daughter goes missing driving the car, the car is potentially a crime scene, and you sign it over to get crushed instead of payin a few hundred dollar towing bill?? Who does that?
That car could've potentially held valuable evidence and you sign it over to get crushed?
I'm just thnking about what I would do if I was in that situation, the last thing I would want is for that car to get crushed, I would want a full forensic workup done on that car ASAP. If LE didn't want to do it, I would contract an independant forensic lab to come out and do it. I would want to know EVERY set of fingerprints on that entire car and who they belonged too. Find a print you know is Maura's, get all of her friends to gve their prints, i'm sure they would've been happy to do that, and just figure out everyone who had been in that car recently, everyone who had touched that car recently..

Get prints off the roof near the doors, off of the hood, off of the trunk; anywhere a potental perp could've touched that car.
The thing about this case is that there's very little evidence. I would want to know nobody touched that car that she didn't know, and if there was a set of unknown prints on it I would bring that to LE and demand they figure out who it was that left them there.
I would also want full trace analysis of the interior of the car. SUre that would cost a few thousand bucks but wouldn't it be worth it if they got something? I think it would be worth it even if they determined that nobody she didn't know touched the car.

The absolute last thing I would do is sign the car over to potentially be crushed!! What was this guy thinking? I don't believe he had anything to do with her going missing but it's stuff like this that makes me do a double take; it's just like really? You signed your daughter's car over, the last place she was known to be alive, you signed it over to save a few hundred bucks? Fred isnt rich, but he works in the medical field, the guy has some money. Use the 4 g's you were gonna use to buy her new car with.

The whole chain of custody of the car after the crash is just weird. Fred signs it over to be crushed, Lavoie held on to it even though it could've been sold for scap that day or sent to auction. It looks like he held it bc he thought it Might hold evidence. Then 2-3 mths later LE finally takes it and does forensics on it after it's been sitting outside all winter with no chain of custody? That's just horrible work, unless they knew there was no evidence in it because they had a good idea of what happened to her, that's the only acceptable excuse in my book..

Then the car is at Troop F for a few years and gets damaged much further?!?!?! Really?!?! You guys let items being held as evidence get damaged, ruining any potential evidence the car held?! WTF???
Is it common for the NHSP to allow evidence they're holding to be damaged?
Did they damage it themselves?
Did someone come onto their lot and damage it? Is it common for the NHSP to allow people to damage items held as evidence?
is it common that people go on NHSP property and vandalize cars?
Do they alow all their evidence to get damaged or is it just this car? Why this car?

The fact this car was damaged so much while in NHSP custody is inexcusable IMO; all evidence it once held was destroyed.
Thing is, that originally you could clearly see the damage was likely caused by 2 seperate accidents, not anymore. Now you can't see shit, it's just smashed up.
Is this supposed to just be a coincidence? Originally it held evidence of there potentialy being two accidents, not anymore.

Does this not seem highly suspicous to anyone else? Since when does LE allow evidence to be ruined? WHy is the only spot that got smashed happen to be right where the evidence was??? Something is wong with this picture

Hannah- How is this "presumed eating disorder" "reportedly getting out of control"???

Where exactly did you hear that?
Who reported that??

I've heard people that didn't know her speculate that she might have had an eating disorder, but that's people who never met her.
I've never heard anyone that knew her say she had an eating disorder, certainly never heard anyone "report" that it was getting out of control, nothing of the sort.
Where are you getting your info from?

Do you have a link or quote from a friend or a family member that state's anything even remotely like that?
IDK, but from what I've seen in my life I haven't seen girls with eating disorders who run track exceptionally and hike 20 mile hikes. She must have been pretty damn healthy to do that.
So where was this reported? WHy is it presumed she had an eatng disorder and what is a reliable source that reported it to be out of control?? I've never seen anything like whay you're saying. I've seen anonymous people online who never met her speculate this, but nothing reliable. Based off how healthy she must've be I'd say presumably she DIDN'T have an eating disorder.

Hey BIll, SNowy, Wowzer- where the hell are you guys on this one?
I thought you guys are here to stop the spread of bullshit as fact. this seems like a prime example but you're nowhere to be found, what a surprise.
Another shining example of how full of shit you guys are; anybody can say anything they want as long as it supports the she got lost in the woods theory or it makes maura look bad.
People can talk about her "eating disorder" like it's a fact and you guys say nothing, but you get on my ass for saying she wore tight jeans, which she did!!! just like every other girl in the world that's not a skater chick or raver, etc...
Just more proof you guys are so completely full of shit, you're not here to stop the spread of bullshit, you're not hear to prevent bullshit from becoming fact. So why are you here?
As far as I can tell you're hear to ty to convince people she got lost in the woods &/or disrupt the conversation from actually getting anywhere useful. you jump on me for saying her jeans were tight, could you guys possibly be any more full of shit?
How are you guys so dishonest? How do you justify being trolls on a thread about a missing n probably murdered girl?? How do you justify telling lies on a thread like this?
WHat is your agenda? WHy do you care so much? WTH is going on here??

Bob,

Take a deep breathe, get yourself out of those ridiculous skinny jeans you are wearing and wait for the blood flow to return to your brain! For Gods sake man your writing is getting manic again..I have stated more than once that I do agree with you on some points, however, I don't understand how you don't see what Bill's point is! You consistently state assumptions as fact and you know what they say about assumptions...They make an Ass out of you and, well, you!
One other thing I'm curious about: You rant and rant daily about Bill and others controlling this forum and pushing there lost in the woods theory down peoples throats...Where the hell is this being done!! How long ago was it that any of them actually even re-stated this?? Bill and you but heads constantly, but it's not about theories Bob it's about statements made and whether or not they are truthful or supportable by fact. You are right back to trying to clobber people with a barrage of words and I tell you, it is like a physical assault!
Not to stereotype, but, most engineers are type a personalities. They are very intent when it comes to details and facts. everything is measured to millionth of an inch and if anything is off by the smallest fraction the whole project is going to fail. I'm no engineer, not to good with math, but I am a type A and I have friends that are engineers. If you want to argue with a type A, you truly better have done all of your research and have tons of facts and a few cases precedents to throw around for good measure or it just won't go well! You have passion Bob and I believe a good heart, but, you are emotional. That's all good and fine, but, there's nothing a boxer likes to see more in his opponent when stepping into the ring than emotion on his face. That's why they trash talk so much before a fight.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Hannah- How is this "presumed eating disorder" "reportedly getting out of control"???
Where exactly did you hear that?
Who reported that??
I've heard people that didn't know her speculate that she might have had an eating disorder, but that's people who never met her.
I've never heard anyone that knew her say she had an eating disorder, certainly never heard anyone "report" that it was getting out of control, nothing of the sort.
Where are you getting your info from?
Do you have a link or quote from a friend or a family member that state's anything even remotely like that?
IDK, but from what I've seen in my life I haven't seen girls with eating disorders who run track exceptionally and hike 20 mile hikes. She must have been pretty damn healthy to do that.
So where was this reported? WHy is it presumed she had an eatng disorder and what is a reliable source that reported it to be out of control?? I've never seen anything like whay you're saying. I've seen anonymous people online who never met her speculate this, but nothing reliable. Based off how healthy she must've be I'd say presumably she DIDN'T have an eating disorder.
Hey BIll, SNowy, Wowzer- where the hell are you guys on this one?
I thought you guys are here to stop the spread of bullshit as fact. this seems like a prime example but you're nowhere to be found, what a surprise.
Another shining example of how full of shit you guys are; anybody can say anything they want as long as it supports the she got lost in the woods theory or it makes maura look bad.
People can talk about her "eating disorder" like it's a fact and you guys say nothing, but you get on my ass for saying she wore tight jeans, which she did!!! just like every other girl in the world that's not a skater chick or raver, etc...
Just more proof you guys are so completely full of shit, you're not here to stop the spread of bullshit, you're not hear to prevent bullshit from becoming fact. So why are you here?
As far as I can tell you're hear to ty to convince people she got lost in the woods &/or disrupt the conversation from actually getting anywhere useful. you jump on me for saying her jeans were tight, could you guys possibly be any more full of shit?
How are you guys so dishonest? How do you justify being trolls on a thread about a missing n probably murdered girl?? How do you justify telling lies on a thread like this?
WHat is your agenda? WHy do you care so much? WTH is going on here??

This subject has been discussed lots of times over the years. THere are no links. Family has admitted she suffered from mild bulimia in her late teens, I think the first mention of this (family admitting bulimia) was on Advocate´s second forum. People who knew her at UMass, have posted online about how her bulimia had gotten worse and how it was a terrible case. This was discussed in depth at the long topix thread that got deleted. People who knew her from UMass were posting about it. Photos of her show gaining and loosing weight, which is typical. Read up on the subject of bulimia. Her behavior, including the CC fraud, fits very well with severe bulimia. The stealing to buy food in spite of having a prepeid mealplan is very telling. It´s not just about getting food, it´s about not wanting to admit to oneself one is binge eating.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Whiston- A timeline for before she went missing could be helpful. I don't think it would be too hard to put together either, we have a pretty good idea of what she did in those days leading up to her going missing, for the most part at least.
Her car was home in Hanson over the wnter break. We know this because she had just recently drove it back to Amherst after the break.
This is my opinion but I feel like this is why she thought she could drive the car up NH that night. She had just driven it 2.5 hours back to amherst, give or take. Before that she drove it 2.5 hrs home to the south shore. She probably figured if she could drive it 2.5 hrs back to Amherst why couldn't she make it up NH in it? And it appears she was right, she made it up NH just fine in it, there's indications the car stalled going into the curve at the WB but thats another story. The car started up just find for Fred and BIlly when they went to Lavoie's towing to check out the car.
So the car clearly wasnt as bad as the family is making it out to be. I wonder if the family knows this and is intentionally misleading the public for whatever reason, or if maybe maura herself was misleading her family so she could get a new car. The car wasn't great, no saturn is, but it wasn't as bad as it's been descibed in the media.
Lots of Q's about that car and few answers, it's interestng I'll tell you that much.
But we do know that it was home on the south shore with her for winter break.

She didn´t drive the Saturn back to Amherst. It was towed part of the way. There have been a lot of discussion on earlier forums about this, how Maura reportedly was more or less hysterical and refused to drive the Saturn, how Fred insisted she did, and how the Saturn was towed part of the way.

hannah_b wrote:

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This subject has been discussed lots of times over the years. THere are no links. Family has admitted she suffered from mild bulimia in her late teens, I think the first mention of this (family admitting bulimia) was on Advocate´s second forum. People who knew her at UMass, have posted online about how her bulimia had gotten worse and how it was a terrible case. This was discussed in depth at the long topix thread that got deleted. People who knew her from UMass were posting about it. Photos of her show gaining and loosing weight, which is typical. Read up on the subject of bulimia. Her behavior, including the CC fraud, fits very well with severe bulimia. The stealing to buy food in spite of having a prepeid mealplan is very telling. It´s not just about getting food, it´s about not wanting to admit to oneself one is binge eating.

Interesting Hannah, thanks for the answer. I'm gonna have to go take a lok at advocates forum cuz all I've ever seen is speculation that she had an eating disorder I've never seen anything from her friends or family that actually confirmed this.

So your saying that the family did confirm she had an eating disorder in high school?
That would explain her using the stolen cc to buy food with