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Jan 29, 2011
 
It would be interesting to know whether Maura decided on 2/10/04 to drop out, or even to switch classes.
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It would be interesting to know whether Maura decided on 2/10/04 to drop out, or even to switch classes.
it would. still doesn't make sense to me, horse, donkey or otherwise, that her transfer from West Point to UMASS was an academically smooth transition, major to major, and credit to credit.
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Fine wrote:
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How did you figure out that we have magic powers? How did you find out that we can snap our fingers and cause you and everyone else in the world to forget a reasonable possibility.
Well, as soon as I snap, you will forget again. You'll even forget this very post and find yourself unable to read it, find it. No search engine will retrieve it to memorialize our statements, anyones. That's what is so great about magic... and that is what we really want to hide. We don't care about slande, its just a front to allow us to cover for our magical powers, which is the only way to accomplish what you fear.
It will take more than you, snapping your fingers, to make anyone in his/her right mind to believe that Maura ran away. "Snap" all you want.
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rozShoem wrote:
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It will take more than you, snapping your fingers, to make anyone in his/her right mind to believe that Maura ran away. "Snap" all you want.
And you are welcome to bullshit all you want, just as I am to call you out on it.
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Snowy wrote:
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it would. still doesn't make sense to me, horse, donkey or otherwise, that her transfer from West Point to UMASS was an academically smooth transition, major to major, and credit to credit.
It might make more sense to you Snowy if you were to rev up your computer and take a look at the nursing program curriculum at UMASS....and then take a little peek at the chemical engineering program curriculum at West Point. Process this information. In my opinion the UMASS Program is rigorous and certainly challenging. However, the West Point Chemical Engineering Program is extremely rigorous in my opinion (in anyone's opinion for that matter). It couples academic curriculum w/military training. It is my understanding that Maura's academic performance was well above average at both UMASS and West Point. Compare required math courses in both programs (at ANY college or university). GPA requirement at West Point I believe is a minimum of 3.0; many other places require minimum of 2.5. There are many considerations when an individual enters an academic program. Academically, Maura was performing in the high range. She was an exceptional young woman in many respects.
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Ralph Conners wrote:
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And you are welcome to bullshit all you want, just as I am to call you out on it.
Ralph! Ralph!
Calm down....take a deep breath. Count to ten. Exhale! Again...take a nice, deep breath...hold 'er and count to ten.... Exhale! There now, don't you feel better? Right. If you do not find this calming....get in your shower and scream.... If this does not work for you.....stick your face into a nice, fluffy pillow and scream! There. Feel better now?
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rozShoem wrote:
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It might make more sense to you Snowy if you were to rev up your computer and take a look at the nursing program curriculum at UMASS....and then take a little peek at the chemical engineering program curriculum at West Point. Process this information. In my opinion the UMASS Program is rigorous and certainly challenging. However, the West Point Chemical Engineering Program is extremely rigorous in my opinion (in anyone's opinion for that matter). It couples academic curriculum w/military training. It is my understanding that Maura's academic performance was well above average at both UMASS and West Point. Compare required math courses in both programs (at ANY college or university). GPA requirement at West Point I believe is a minimum of 3.0; many other places require minimum of 2.5. There are many considerations when an individual enters an academic program. Academically, Maura was performing in the high range. She was an exceptional young woman in many respects.
does*not*matter. as i said before,(and you were probably around then), the rigor of a prestigious institution, and especially in engineering, is course-specific, not well-rounded, as you'd find at a public institution/state school, such as UMASS.
there are credits/requirements that do not transfer and/or must be met.
it is highly unlikely she was able to neatly transfer school-to-school, major-to-major and credit-to-credit without a lapse.
in addition, we've been down this path before...and i do detest redundancy.
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<quoted text>I don't know. Same old story - too little to work with. I am pretty sure that drop/add was Feb. 10 that year. Last chance to get most of your money back if you withdrew. Did LE check UMass registrar's office records?
Beagle,
Can you identify WHY there is "too little to work with?" You bring up an interesting point.
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Ralph! Ralph!
Calm down....take a deep breath. Count to ten. Exhale! Again...take a nice, deep breath...hold 'er and count to ten.... Exhale! There now, don't you feel better? Right. If you do not find this calming....get in your shower and scream.... If this does not work for you.....stick your face into a nice, fluffy pillow and scream! There. Feel better now?
Pass.
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no sign of zip code boy. must have ridden his bucking bull off into the full moon having sufficiently insulted perfect strangers.
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rozShoem wrote:
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Beagle,
Can you identify WHY there is "too little to work with?" You bring up an interesting point.
Its obviously magic instead of simple lack of information
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rozShoem wrote:
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Beagle,
Can you identify WHY there is "too little to work with?" You bring up an interesting point.
an obvious-ity
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rozShoem wrote:
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Beagle,
Can you identify WHY there is "too little to work with?" You bring up an interesting point.
A song for and about you Rozzie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
rozShoem

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Snowy wrote:
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does*not*matter. as i said before,(and you were probably around then), the rigor of a prestigious institution, and especially in engineering, is course-specific, not well-rounded, as you'd find at a public institution/state school, such as UMASS.
there are credits/requirements that do not transfer and/or must be met.
it is highly unlikely she was able to neatly transfer school-to-school, major-to-major and credit-to-credit without a lapse.
in addition, we've been down this path before...and i do detest redundancy.
Well-rounded as you say is just another way of saying liberal arts (education). What I'm saying Snowy is that math courses for example may have been higher level and therefore she may have received credit for this at UMASS. Today even 2-year colleges offer what is known as math for nurses.... What I'm saying is that the math requirement at West Point is higher. Compare curriculums and you'll be able to see this for yourself. If a person transfers credits for higher level math courses.....they will be allowed credit for this, for example. Don't worry about any lapses.......you have all you can handle just tolerating "redundancy," remember? Have a consult with your "donkey" sense (I believe this is what you called it).....this might help.
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Roman Grant wrote:
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Its obviously magic instead of simple lack of information
A lot of people have said that there was so little information in the MM case. Others concluded that there was a lot of confusing information and this contributed to making Maura's disappearance such a great mystery.
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Beagle wrote:
It would be interesting to know whether Maura decided on 2/10/04 to drop out, or even to switch classes.
Beagle,
"Dropping out" was not on her agenda of things to do. Had she planned to "drop out" she would not have taken her textbooks with her and she certainly would not have contacted some faculty and her supervisor to let them know she'd be away for a few days. She would have just disappeared. Please do not tell me that she had the textbooks with her as they served as a transitional object!...someone mentioned she had her favorite book with her because she planned to suicide........ Now really....this is a bit much. The ONLY thing in that car that someone considering suicide might use would be the alcohol. But when about to suicide, there are few who'd be dedicated to mixing drinks. It's be straight out of the bottle (Jack Daniels or something similar}. She was abducted by someone she knew or possibly someone she did not know. Given the short timeframe of when the SBD spoke with her and the officer arrived, abduction seems more likely.
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A song for and about you Rozzie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Thanks, love....and bein' it near Valentine's day and all....what more can one say, but thank you!
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Snowy wrote:
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it would. still doesn't make sense to me, horse, donkey or otherwise, that her transfer from West Point to UMASS was an academically smooth transition, major to major, and credit to credit.
Snowy, given you lean toward the runaway and "hiding out" theory....here is a question you may be able to answer. Recall the dog lost Maura's scent at the intersection. Then a few months later (April?) a witness came forth stating that he saw a woman running who fit Maura's description approximately 5 miles away (away from where the Saturn had slid off the highway). If Maura had ran that distance, four or five miles....why did the dog lose her scent so nearby? Why didn't the dog continue to follow scent?
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rozShoem wrote:
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Well-rounded as you say is just another way of saying liberal arts (education). What I'm saying Snowy is that math courses for example may have been higher level and therefore she may have received credit for this at UMASS. Today even 2-year colleges offer what is known as math for nurses.... What I'm saying is that the math requirement at West Point is higher. Compare curriculums and you'll be able to see this for yourself. If a person transfers credits for higher level math courses.....they will be allowed credit for this, for example. Don't worry about any lapses.......you have all you can handle just tolerating "redundancy," remember? Have a consult with your "donkey" sense (I believe this is what you called it).....this might help.
i can assure you i have a better handle on this than you do. math is fine. other pre-reqs would not be transferred, or were not taken. nor has it ever been made clear whether she transitioned to UMASS without a semester break. nor do i believe anyone with feathers.
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hi all,any nursing student has books left in there vehicle at any time so, for me it means zip.as for the emails who knows if they were sent and what they said.The scent trail was from the saturn to a point in the road and maybe back to the saturn and whomever was there at the saturn.Mauras' prior life is still such a secret.That to me is still very odd.someone in her group at Amherst i assume said they did not want to get her into trouble.detective Davies and Thrasher and a school shrink and the then dean Breslin went to a nursing class to talk to the nursing students i think on feb 13 04...

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