Maura Murray

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Looking4AMoose wrote:

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I have contact with a friend as well as a clinic instructor. I have told both that I will not release their contact info --neither of them know anything about her actually going missing, but it has been enlightening. Opinions though, seem to the only welcome information here.

Stephen wrote:

And on the Seventh Year, God said "Let there be transcripts!", and there were transcripts. And God examined the transcripts and he saw that examining the transcripts was good. And God also figgerd that the inferior humans required light by which to read the transcripts, so he said "Let there be Edison!" and there were lights. And Laura Ingalls saw that the lights worked good and thanked God for Franklin.
And God said, let there be scanners and Internets. And there was Internets. And Al Gore and Xerox saw that they was good.
And God said, Let there be Kenneth Starr, and there was Kenneth Starr.
And God said let there be brains. And there were brains. And God saw that the brains were good enough to know what to do next.

Snowy wrote:

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v. good, Stephen. yes, bring forth the foolish transcripts as evidence in the 7th year! i like your thought progression. we all need some of that religion. too few church ladies are in attendance here.

Snowy wrote:

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to the transcripts..deliver them, Oh, Lord, to the WB....by any manner of transport....school bus, donkey, horse, courier, or by a clydesdale drawn sleigh,

Snowy wrote:

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where they will be received by the most brain-full of us... WTF/WTH/Bill, the "dumb" engineer. to his detractors, the self-deprecating description was taken all too literally.
an admitted agnostic / atheist is still welcome to the fold.

Snowy wrote:

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anyway, let him compare and then compute, line by line, and credit by credit to reveal the truth!
and, now, we gather here for....what purpose?
oops - time to rewind, retell, revise, recreate, revert, remake, regurgitate.

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Snowy wrote:

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still, a no bullshit zone where opinions and speculation don't count as facts, regardless of a chit-chat with a friend or instructor.
and you have provided no facts, L4M, especially the relevant ones about the exact timing of her leaving WP, whether she completed and satisfied requirements in her final semester at WP, the interval between leaving WP and starting UMASS, and a confirmed status as to her projected graduation date.
importantly, to my knowledge, you have not examined her transcript, nor are you qualified to make decisions about what satisfies which credit requirement for transfer.
granted, your information is specific to your experiences, possibly consisting of a progression from community college to grad courses/programs as you apparently moved through acquiring your nursing credentials. well and good, but doubtful you are an admissions specialist.

Beagle wrote:

Ugh! Another cat fight. The worst kind. They're not even really disagreeing. Just clawing it up. Where's a bucket of cold water?

Snowy wrote:

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same questions unanswered then are unanswered today.
nothing matters, of course. there's no new news.

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Beagle wrote:

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How many groups or persons are looking for new information? I think there are two mains groups. On one hand, there's LE; on the other hand, there are Maura's family/friends, private investigators, online posters, news reporters, and maybe one or two other groups or persons that don't immediately come to mind. Some of these groups may have overlapping memberships, so to speak.
If Maura's disappearance is an instance of a serious crime in which she was the victim, and if there are no unpredictable extenuating circumstances, then new, important, and useful information obviously must be obtained either by LE or by private parties and passed along to LE.
LE has the most sophisticated tools and probably the biggest accumulation of information. They have the biggest part of the puzzle, but they don't appear to have all the pieces they need in order to prosecute.
There might be, however, one or more persons who have some pieces of the puzzle not yet obtained by either by LE or by any other private party. These missing pieces might normally be provided to LE, but LE has an awfully long record of shooting the messenger. This is a tough barrier to overcome.
Or the needed info might be provided to a private party, but they, too, have a long record of shooting the messenger.
And both LE and private parties have an established history of lying and making misleading statements.
So basically, it's a draw. A stalemate. LE isn't budging. Private parties are not budging. And privately held information, if possessed, is not forthcoming. Most likely, it's tragically going to stay like this for a long time, probably forever.

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Flies Shoo Em wrote:

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You are incapable of reading or relaying facts correctly. This you have demonstrated multiple times.
Thanks for the endorsement, but, no thanks.

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Snowy wrote:

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another missive...gasp.
although your imagination remains vivid, your conclusions are unsupported by evidence and so your given account is, at least by my informal standards, fictional.
it's grasping to connect the missing each to other; and your being "...fairly certain...that he was in uniform and Maura had assumed him to be an officer or trooper."
you are finger-pointing, yet again.

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rozShoem wrote:

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Snowy,
Given that many of these individuals have disappeared from the highway.....an abandoned vehicle left behind....yes, I DO believe the mystery man is impersonating a police officer or state trooper. Given the range of travel that would be involved in many of these cases, I opt to believe it is someone impersonating a state trooper. There are several similarities in many of these cases. Even though Theresa R was found in her apartment, she most likely had contact with him in terms of her position at the college. I've mentioned before that this guy is very familiar with the northern VT area and New Hampshire. Theresa was not like his other victims. He'd had a verbal encounter with her that left him quite angry...so angry he moved beyond his pattern of highway abduction. Given the characteristics of this fellow, chances are great that Theresa would not have recognized the level of his anger (rage). His reason for doing away with these other females has nothing to do with them...but is due to a female in his life. Theresa's previous verbal encounter with him simply magnified his perceptions, beliefs about himself in terms of his relationship with this woman in his life. Theresa may not have realized that he was angry at all. This fellow is above average intelligence and has indepth knowledge of balance and harmony. His anger does not show, but he does "get even." He is not insane. He is above average in terms of intelligence, is highly organized, above average knowledge of murder scenes, evidence and presents as overly socialized. He is a high-functioning, well-channeled sociopath in terms of career whose secondary gain is not being caught (with each abduction, he becomes charged, invigorated by his success and ability to keep his criminal activity hidden). His primary gain is two-fold. He targets males and females for entirely different reasons. My belief is that he murdered Theresa R for an entirely different reason than the other females. Whether or not you believe me does not change what I believe to be true.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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You mean other than the police report? And that red stuff splashed around the inside of the car. Or the red liquid in the container that smelled like alcohol, etc.
We should put a FAQ up so I don't need to keep repeating the same common sense items for new people to read.
Bill

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Snowy wrote:

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you are correct in that you are unequivocally entitled to your opinion, and i respect that.
whether or not a violent abductor came in contact with Maura is still, imo, unknown. it makes for an interesting story, Roz, but unless the official investigation leans this way, i am unconvinced this took place.
more than likely the clues to her disappearance lie with her contacts in amherst....the place from which she inexplicably reacted and then ran.'trouble' may have followed her to nh....if, in fact, she ever was in NH.

rozShoem wrote:

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Snowy...
Possibly this is why Maura has not been found in 6 years...because people are attempting to link her disappearance to something or someone in Amherst. Of course many also are opting for the runaway and/or suicide theories. All of these people who have disappeared and/or have been murdered (at least the several cases I've been following), were just being participants in life. I'm sure all of them were caught up in some type of life circumstance (they were all alive and living their lives). Depressed, nondepressed, worried, not worried...having plans, goals, dreams, involved or uninvolved in relationships, attending college or not attending, etc. Just about everyone would have something in his or her life that would cause authorities to take a closer look. Everyone has something taking place in life, otherwise he/she would be dead. This does not mean that something or someone who had been in their life harmed them. After several years of revisiting old clues which have become exhausted time after time, possibly it is time to consider and explore the possibility that many of these victims unexpectedly entered the context of their abductor. Pamela W. did not enter willingly, so we know in this case her abductor entered her context....only to take her to Grafton County. In these 3 cases everyone who knew each of these people questioned why each had even been in Grafton County. Many of these other victims have family and friends who have had no idea why the person would have been in the area where they either disappeared or where their remains were found.

Stephen wrote:

And on the Seventh Year, God said "Let there be transcripts!", and there were transcripts. And God examined the transcripts and he saw that examining the transcripts was good. And God also figgerd that the inferior humans required light by which to read the transcripts, so he said "Let there be Edison!" and there were lights. And Laura Ingalls saw that the lights worked good and thanked God for Franklin.
And God said, let there be scanners and Internets. And there was Internets. And Al Gore and Xerox saw that they was good.
And God said, Let there be Kenneth Starr, and there was Kenneth Starr.
And God said let there be brains. And there were brains. And God saw that the brains were good enough to know what to do next.