Maura Murray

Frostman wrote:

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I have alway believed that Maura put the rag in the tailpipe because she perceived that it would inhibit the car from starting up and that would prevent joyriders from stealing the car before she could get back later that evening.

But wasnt the car found locked?

Frostman wrote:

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I don't believe "CW" saw Maura or anyone else on that stretch of road that night. CW was questioned by LE, a PI and others in the week following the disappearance and recalled or revealed nothing about the sighting. Then 10 weeks later (after a reward is offered) he throws that sketchy information out there at while browsing at the local store. JMO.

I agree with you on this also Frosty. Found it strange that LE put credibility into the statement.

JWB wrote:

<quoted text>I asked around my area to those that hunt and they couldn't come up with a Mathew they knew of that hunted. I can't see anyone saying he found these things and told police if he didn't find these things because I would think he could be in big trouble for interfering with the case.

Mathew posted with a woodstock addy but I guess it doesn't mean that is where he actually lives.

I believe it was also shown on this forum that LE did in fact test
evidence found at the same time frame that mathew was tsaying he found the duct tape. I think Hannah posted it or maybe Mcsmom not sure.

I think there was an article in a local MSM paper about it, but the results were never revealed. It could have been someone who had a sprain or cut and only had duct tape to wrap it with in the woods. I think we all had visions that it might have been a gag used to subdue Maura or another woman but it was most likely nothing of any consequence.

Frostman wrote:

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Matthew's post is on the Amherst forum -- he said it was in a field at a lay-by where hunters park to go into the woods ~ 6.7 miles (IIRC) from WB corner -- southeast.

Being a flatlander I know nada about lay-bys..Guess I imagined it a sandpit..Ive never heard if these items were ever actually tested by LE..

findmaura wrote:

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But wasnt the car found locked?

Seems like that pretty much summarizes the case doesn't it? A perfectly good senario is thought of and yet there is another piece of the puzzle that just doesn't fit into the grand scheme of things.

JWB is correct about the lack of hunters-hikers east of the crash. Responding units per Grafton county's call info doesn't state any units from the east on 112 towards 116 and maybe further. I find it ironic people describe mm walking from the site. She was a runner, and a good one at that. What would fear and adrenaline do for a trained runner on a state maintained highway at night? Let the snow amounts fly or the footprints lacking...theres a reason nothing has been found, nobody has looked in the right place yet. Dismissing the running theory from snow or footprints on the shoulder pushes people to think mm is in Canada or a vasI hit, etc...What about people's driveways? Would you know someone ran through your yard when your watching tv, sleeping, or listening to the radio? Or if your property was a camp and snowed before you got back to it to plow? Its so easy to dismiss the things some people will do in extreme situations in the wilderness.

findmaura wrote:

<quoted text>But wasnt the car found locked?

Who knows if the car was locked -- the reports vary widely from locked to doors flung wide open when SCh drove by after her shift at Loon.(SoCo article)

Maura could have been taking extra precautions because the Saturn would still have had some trade-in value.

findmaura wrote:

<quoted text>Being a flatlander I know nada about lay-bys..Guess I imagined it a sandpit..Ive never heard if these items were ever actually tested by LE..

If you take Mr. Google Map for a test spin you'll see the gravel parking area on the north side of 112 about 6.7 miles past WB Corner.

amy researches wrote:

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Interesting. Thanks. Do you know of any other lodging options out that way?

yes the Franconia inn is on that stretch of road several miles further and then in the village of Franconia there are maybe 4-6 motels.

amy researches wrote:

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If it was Maura that the CW saw, maybe she thought she could run there? I am not sure how far away it is or if this is feasible. Just a thought as it is a cheap place to stay that I don't know if you need a reservation.

Hate to even utter this because it causes a stir..But kinsman area is exactly where Liko was murdered.I wonder Which PD has that jurisdiction?

I know FM searches the woods. The rag in the tailpipe was described as a quick fix for a smoking engine. MM wasn't supposed to use the car, FM was going to bring her to buy a new one the next week. I thought the rag was a sign, sabotage, it's neither. Its a non-mechanically inclined way to fix a smoking engine so she could use it by campus for errands. I don't believe in the foul play. Some people lead down that road but for MM's sake I hope if she is out there, she went peacefully under no hands but God's.

findmaura wrote:

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Hate to even utter this because it causes a stir..But kinsman area is exactly where Liko was murdered.I wonder Which PD has that jurisdiction?

Franconia Covers that area even though it is the town of Easton

talk to ya later its 12:30 already

Do I remember the Rt 116 intersection has a green sign with towns&distances on it?If so could Maura have seen a town listed that she was familiar with and took 116 to travel?

JWB wrote:

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Franconia Covers that area even though it is the town of Easton

interesting.

JWB wrote:

talk to ya later its 12:30 already

But your a third shift regular....

AppointedNH wrote:

JWB is correct about the lack of hunters-hikers east of the crash. Responding units per Grafton county's call info doesn't state any units from the east on 112 towards 116 and maybe further. I find it ironic people describe mm walking from the site. She was a runner, and a good one at that. What would fear and adrenaline do for a trained runner on a state maintained highway at night? Let the snow amounts fly or the footprints lacking...theres a reason nothing has been found, nobody has looked in the right place yet. Dismissing the running theory from snow or footprints on the shoulder pushes people to think mm is in Canada or a vasI hit, etc...What about people's driveways? Would you know someone ran through your yard when your watching tv, sleeping, or listening to the radio? Or if your property was a camp and snowed before you got back to it to plow? Its so easy to dismiss the things some people will do in extreme situations in the wilderness.

I don't believe she ran or walked away from the crash site, at least not more than a few hundred feet. She reportedly had a hamstring injury and her running shoes were left in the car with her toiletries and textbooks. And the fact that the SAR dogs picked up her scent and then lost it down the road convinces me that she got into a vehicle, either willingly or she was abducted right there by murderer(s) unknown.

AppointedNH wrote:

I know FM searches the woods. The rag in the tailpipe was described as a quick fix for a smoking engine. MM wasn't supposed to use the car, FM was going to bring her to buy a new one the next week. I thought the rag was a sign, sabotage, it's neither. Its a non-mechanically inclined way to fix a smoking engine so she could use it by campus for errands. I don't believe in the foul play. Some people lead down that road but for MM's sake I hope if she is out there, she went peacefully under no hands but God's.

Maybe Maura stopped for gas,noticed it was smoking pretty bad but did nothing.If she lost power at the WB curve she may have figured the rag could be a fix..

Frostman wrote:

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I don't believe she ran or walked away from the crash site, at least not more than a few hundred feet. She reportedly had a hamstring injury and her running shoes were left in the car with her toiletries and textbooks. And the fact that the SAR dogs picked up her scent and then lost it down the road convinces me that she got into a vehicle, either willingly or she was abducted right there by murderer(s) unknown.

That scenerio is the most logical.

If she were abducted right there you would think someoe would have seen or heard something..Unless the witnesses are mum because its 1 scary dude.