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Ted Kazynski
Scotts Valley, CA
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Granny M wrote: 8 years in the neighborhood and just finding out is what the other Bill calls Bull Shit!! I could see if you just moved there but sorry!! It smells bad. Some people don't like interacting with other people. Especially people that call bullshit every other minute. No reason to continue blowing hot air.
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mcsmom
Marlborough, NH
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I think what I posted about the Corolla was that since it was according to Beagle searched on the 9th of February, is that LE must have been looking at damaged vehicles at body shops due to the Vasi hit and run.
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mcsmom
Marlborough, NH
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I recall that during a visit in 07 to the area of the WB with MC, to one property of interest, something purchased for outdoor use, was not visible anywhere on the property, I always thought this was odd.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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Orko Kringer wrote: <quoted text>
One month to two months (depending on which news report you go by) after vasi's hit and run and the police were asking him if he had been in a fight or had he been car surfing ... That is poor police work.
A car that strikes someone doesn't have arms to then reach down and scoop up the pieces of plastic and chips of paint it leaves at the scene of the hit and run. A proper investigation (which SHOULD'VE started that very night vasi was found) would've quickly ruled out the scenario that vasi was jumped by a bunch of UMASS Minutemen henchmen.
The cops did keep his clothing and that was the extent of their investigation.
Now when they figure out how to unlock themselves from the town jail cell, maybe they can move on to investigating maura's cc fraud.
IMO of course. What does that mean "A car that strikes someone doesn't have arms to then reach down and scoop up the pieces of plastic and chips of paint it leaves at the scene of the hit and run."? Information on the Vasi H&R is very hard to find but I have not seen any reference to paint chips or plastic where he was found. Are you saying there wasn't any there or that there was? If there was then I could potentially agree that it was shoddy police work. But if there wasn't then I would say it's a very real possibility that he wasn't hit by a car unless you believe that someone who just accidentally hit a pedestrian had the presence of mind to stop and clean up their mess. The only reasoning I have seen that point to a car hit was that his injuries were more on one side of his body than the other.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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BillNH wrote: OPINION: I feel that those closest to her knew and know more than they have said. I also believe she is alive and there is a reason she has not contacted her family and some of them know the reason. Just my opinion, but I am entitled to it. Good luck to you in your search. well said. indeed, i also believe "...those closest to her knew and know more than they have said." and that "...she has not contacted her family and some of them know the reason." in my opinion, she is either alive, or she succumbed to the elements, most likely in the forest. it's 50 / 50. i don't believe her disappearance was either sudden or immaculate, such as in a random abduction. that scenario seems highly unlikely, given the issues that complicated her life.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text>
well said.
indeed, i also believe "...those closest to her knew and know more than they have said." and that "...she has not contacted her family and some of them know the reason."
in my opinion, she is either alive, or she succumbed to the elements, most likely in the forest. it's 50 / 50.
i don't believe her disappearance was either sudden or immaculate, such as in a random abduction. that scenario seems highly unlikely, given the issues that complicated her life. I don't buy the lost in the forest scenario either. It may look desolate but the number of ATV's, hunters, bird watchers, nature worshipers, reclusive's, etc. that tramp through these woods in the course of a year, I doubt there is much area that has not been covered many times over. The only "Maura is dead" theory I find a possibility is hit by a car/snowplow on the road. This road in particular is full of hairpin turns and little or no shoulder with a river immediately on one side and slope on the other. But since I don't think she walked the road, it is a very remote possibility.
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mcsmom
Cowlesville, NY
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BillNH wrote: citigirl: I understand your situation and I am not trying to be evasive. FACTS: The owners publicly posted information on facebook. I did not see that information posted here. So I posted it here, thought it would be helpful. Beyond what they were willing to post, I cannot help you. This is their home, their option to post. I felt safe in posting the information as accurate because unlike people here, I know who they are and have known them for several years. I was confident I was not passing on a made up story. I suggest since you are part of that FB group that you contact the owner directly and ask your questions. Not sure what Granny's issues are but I know people in the Woodsville area that I have had a reason to know through other activities in my life. SBD was one I never had occasion to meet since there was never any personal activities that we shared to allow that. I never knew Forcier for the same reason. As stated previously, This was not a frequently discussed thing in the area, I can only speculate as to why that would be. Yes it gives us all a little chill when we drive past the spot, has since the first time I went by it, it did the other day when I went by it just to compare what I have been reading to what I remember. I do not have reason to travel that way much. I feel sorry for those looking for answers, it is a sad situation.
OPINION: I feel that those closest to her knew and know more than they have said. I also believe she is alive and there is a reason she has not contacted her family and some of them know the reason. Just my opinion, but I am entitled to it. Good luck to you in your search. Bill, You put forth a personal link that provides weight to a criminal investigation, but you don't personally share that opinion, can you explain why you think Maura is alive? I honestly think given the glimpses of Maura's personality, she would have contacted family if she could.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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Bill,
You put forth a personal link that provides weight to a criminal investigation What are you referring to?
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mcsmom
Cowlesville, NY
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BillNH wrote: <quoted text>
I don't buy the lost in the forest scenario either. It may look desolate but the number of ATV's, hunters, bird watchers, nature worshipers, reclusive's, etc. that tramp through these woods in the course of a year, I doubt there is much area that has not been covered many times over. The only "Maura is dead" theory I find a possibility is hit by a car/snowplow on the road. This road in particular is full of hairpin turns and little or no shoulder with a river immediately on one side and slope on the other. But since I don't think she walked the road, it is a very remote possibility. Why then do you " get a chill" when you pass the area if you think she's alive and well somewhere?
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mcsmom
Cowlesville, NY
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What are you referring to? Your friend who lives in RF house, unless you think they are lying to you, that puts a lot of weight into a criminal investigation, otherwise why spend the time and state financial resources, which appear to be lacking in the cold case department?
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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BillNH wrote: <quoted text>
I don't buy the lost in the forest scenario either. It may look desolate but the number of ATV's, hunters, bird watchers, nature worshipers, reclusive's, etc. that tramp through these woods in the course of a year, I doubt there is much area that has not been covered many times over. The only "Maura is dead" theory I find a possibility is hit by a car/snowplow on the road. This road in particular is full of hairpin turns and little or no shoulder with a river immediately on one side and slope on the other. But since I don't think she walked the road, it is a very remote possibility. absolutely no physical evidence, to my knowledge, that she might have been hit by another vehicle. i was careful to say forest (or woods) without assuming them to be at the site where her car was last located. you see, if she made her way to woods in a place other than where people have looked for her, it is entirely possible a body is still undiscovered. it is also possible she met up with a person / people known to her, that she willingly accompanied them, and she later took to the woods elsewhere; hence, not abduction. who knows?
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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I get a chill because it's unknown, unexplained. A living breathing human being essentially disappeared from existence as far as anyone knows. No matter what my opinion is, she is still gone and it's creepy.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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What I posted pertaining to the RF house only bolsters my opinion. One more POI crossed off the list. AND...the Cold Case Unit's function is to get answers, for all of NH, not just for Maura.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text>
absolutely no physical evidence, to my knowledge, that she might have been hit by another vehicle.
i was careful to say forest (or woods) without assuming them to be at the site where her car was last located.
you see, if she made her way to woods in a place other than where people have looked for her, it is entirely possible a body is still undiscovered.
it is also possible she met up with a person / people known to her, that she willingly accompanied them, and she later took to the woods elsewhere; hence, not abduction. who knows? Yeah like I said, it was a remote possibility in my mind. I didn't think so until I drove to the site and beyond it about 4 miles last week..that road is horrible if anyone were to try and walk it.
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mcsmom
Cowlesville, NY
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Please understand, I'm not criticizing anyone's theory, I just haven't uncovered much in the way of funds spent to tie up any loose ends on the side of an alive Maura. I mean wouldn't a ticket to Ireland cost much much less than a day of salary and equipment on a just a whim of evidence on RF property?
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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There is no solid evidence that she was abducted and the biggest reason most people end up giving for her not running off is that she would not do that to her family. And on that I disagree. I think Fred is a creepy guy, his actions and words seem dishonest and insincere. His pleas the day after she went missing for her to "come home, we can work it out" and then his refusal to answer any LE questions about the days prior to her disappearance screams that he his hiding something. I think she left her family behind for a reason and I think at least one member of her family knows that reason.
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mcsmom
Cowlesville, NY
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BillNH wrote: What I posted pertaining to the RF house only bolsters my opinion. One more POI crossed off the list. AND...the Cold Case Unit's function is to get answers, for all of NH, not just for Maura. I can appreciate your thought process, but if they thought Maura alive why continue the search? Cold Case is not restricted to only one scenario.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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mcsmom wrote: Please understand, I'm not criticizing anyone's theory, I just haven't uncovered much in the way of funds spent to tie up any loose ends on the side of an alive Maura. I mean wouldn't a ticket to Ireland cost much much less than a day of salary and equipment on a just a whim of evidence on RF property? I am certain if there was enough verifiable evidence to call this a runaway situation they would. Until they can get evidence for either an arrest or proof she ran off, they have to still treat it as a criminal investigation.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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BillNH wrote: <quoted text>
I am certain if there was enough verifiable evidence to call this a runaway situation they would. Until they can get evidence for either an arrest or proof she ran off, they have to still treat it as a criminal investigation. precisely. she is missing, and evidence has not conclusively pointed to any certain scenario. the fact that she has disappeared demands continued investigation.
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Since: Mar 13
Woodsville, NH
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text>
I can appreciate your thought process, but if they thought Maura alive why continue the search? Cold Case is not restricted to only one scenario. Let me be clear. I think Maura is alive. My opinion based on what I have seen. It is only MY opinion. What CCU thinks is all up to them. I get it that they have to keep going on this case until they know for sure it is foul play or runaway or suicide or accidental death. I expect that of them, it is their function. I hope they eventually prove me right, at least about her being alive.
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