Maura Murray

Fair is fair.

rozShoem wrote:

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It's encouraging that the two of you together have been able to determine that Maura may have had more in common with Chris in several domains. Most likely you both were focusing on gender, believing that two out of the three shared the most in common based soley on their male gender. Bill, the next time you visit this area....it might be best to leave the driving to your wife?

There you go again, trying to think for us. I have never thought that those two disappearances had anything in common nor was I focusing on gender or anything else.
It might be best for you not to leave the house without a hand to hold onto. We don't want you getting lost as it would sadden us to lose all the laughter and entertainment that you provide.

Fred said that he "owed it to his little girl".
He had to believe it was her that walked down the street minutes before police arrived. Bus driver said it didn't really look like her, description didn't match. Bolo was off.
She returned "scrubs" that day to a fellow nursing student. Did she talk at the door, Hang the coat on the door, or just how did that go?
She was seen leaving campus, and "seen" by her car in NH.
That was good enough for Fred. Seemed good enough for Kathleen too. "Something went wrong", she said.
Everybody dropped balls if you ask me. Maura's laptop was sitting in K's closet for a long time before police came back for it. Kathleen claimed she didn't know much about computers, well then why not find someone who is? Not blaiming Kathleen, just saying, the chance to examine the pc was there. Pretty wierd to me is that campus police or MA police had already made a copy of the hard drive.

Why claim a personal posession that was not in the car, when they could just as easily made another copy of the hard drive? There must be a good reason for that.

rozShoem wrote:

Hannah_b wrote:
Yeah Hannah....that's right..........sugar coat it!
Calling the guy (the real or unreal PI) a "moron" ought to get him to respond.... LOL.

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Snowy wrote:

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Fred appeared to have chosen a course of action early on, and didn't seem to care about making repairs, even for the sake of his daughter, before creating permanent collateral damage. his advocates have compounded that damage.
"family" is a loosely held term in this online experience, with no one stepping forward, except Helena, to self-identify. i don't know who has actually driven this effort, but no one has able or willing to reign in or manage the resulting chaos. the appearance is, actually, that the accusations and damage are approved and encouraged by Maura's family.

I've been fairly reluctant to get into anything directly to do with Maura's family. I've felt they were off limits. The attacks on her father I thought were beyond repulsive. On several occasions I so stated. But I'm starting to change my mind, at least a little, about some of it.

Maura's disappearance is obviously strange in several respects, not the least of which is the silence of Maura's immediate family or even her extended family of aunts, uncles, and cousins. Not a peep.(HM is not really family because, according to her, she never met Maura and did not marry a cousin of Fred's until after Maura's disappearance.)

Maura's family never once have denounced or explicitly disconnected themselves from the aggravation, turmoil, grief, and a thousand other pains inflicted or generated by the discussion - online and offline - of what happened to Maura. I regret to say that by their deliberate silence they have therefore tacitly approved much of this reckless behavior, cyber bullying, and terrifying verbal assaults. One hopes they at least take no pleasure from it.

It is understandable that grief may provoke unexpected reactions in those closest to Maura. Irrational or angry things may be said or done by her family and friends; and that is to be generally excused. Their privacy is to be respected. But after seven years, it is time for Maura Murray's family to chose among themselves a spokesperson to make a public statement, one that either aligns themselves with antagonistic posters or disowns them plainly and completely.

There should be no ambiguity about where they stand. They should never want to be associated with the many vicious things that have happened in the name of discovering what became of Maura. In the absence of such a statement, one may assume they approve even the worst conduct by their proxies.

Their continued silence amounts to the abuse of Maura's good name.

Very well said Beagle.

Beagle wrote:

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I've been fairly reluctant to get into anything directly to do with Maura's family. I've felt they were off limits. The attacks on her father I thought were beyond repulsive. On several occasions I so stated. But I'm starting to change my mind, at least a little, about some of it.
Maura's disappearance is obviously strange in several respects, not the least of which is the silence of Maura's immediate family or even her extended family of aunts, uncles, and cousins. Not a peep.(HM is not really family because, according to her, she never met Maura and did not marry a cousin of Fred's until after Maura's disappearance.)
Maura's family never once have denounced or explicitly disconnected themselves from the aggravation, turmoil, grief, and a thousand other pains inflicted or generated by the discussion - online and offline - of what happened to Maura. I regret to say that by their deliberate silence they have therefore tacitly approved much of this reckless behavior, cyber bullying, and terrifying verbal assaults. One hopes they at least take no pleasure from it.
It is understandable that grief may provoke unexpected reactions in those closest to Maura. Irrational or angry things may be said or done by her family and friends; and that is to be generally excused. Their privacy is to be respected. But after seven years, it is time for Maura Murray's family to chose among themselves a spokesperson to make a public statement, one that either aligns themselves with antagonistic posters or disowns them plainly and completely.
There should be no ambiguity about where they stand. They should never want to be associated with the many vicious things that have happened in the name of discovering what became of Maura. In the absence of such a statement, one may assume they approve even the worst conduct by their proxies.
Their continued silence amounts to the abuse of Maura's good name.

i, too, agree, Beagle, with your assessment.
to my understanding, HM's marriage pre-dated, not post-dated MM's disappearance...but be that as it may, your points are all well made.
even allowing for family privacy and differences in grief and loss, Dawn's compassion and eager concern for missing persons and for MM always included room for the inexplicable disconnect between these forums and the family's silence.
finally, an appeal to the public, and then abuse of public posters is inconsistent with behaviors of families of the missing.

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