Maura Murray

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amy researches wrote:

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If MA was aware of the damage because Maura had been a suspect in the hit and run, then I would think this would have been communicated between the MA and NH pd once they began investigating it as a missing person case. I can't think of a reason why Smith would include it in his accident report, but I'm not familiar with the procedures up there. JMO

hannah_b wrote:

Re Vasi hit and run: I don´t believe Maura was on LE´s radar as a suspect at the time. Still, with the rumored interest in the Corolla, and the knowledge such accidents many times involved students, would they have checked UMass parking lots for damaged cars? It would explain the need to smash up the Saturn and the need to do it across state lines, and maybe even the need to do it in plain view of several witnesses.

Snowy wrote:

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thx BillNH - i went back and saw "rumor" over the weekend, and dismissed it. i wondered if it was verified elsewhere, and i had missed it.
now the "rumor" will take wings...and fly. another unconfirmed excuse for the drinking, crashing, hushed up mess.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Hannah I don't think there is much evidence to suggest that MM had anything to do with the hit and run. We don't know how mentally tough MM was, so we don't need to assign a hit and run as a motive to leave town. It could have been something small.

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BillNH wrote:

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The rape info came from Renner's blog on 4/1 (doubt it was an April fool's joke). The invetigator that worked with Fred the first year Rick Graves. Renner said "There was a rumor that Maura was raped at the dorm party but they've never been able to get the full story from Kate Markopolous or Sara Alfieri." This is apparently gleaned from Renner's interview with Rick. I was surprised Renner posted that bit as it was only a rumor but I suppose the man knows what he is doing, I should not second guess that. My opinion, it was an attempt to loosen lips by letting the cat out of the bag, or he was trying to invoke a response from someone.

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hannah_b wrote:

Re Vasi hit and run: I don´t believe Maura was on LE´s radar as a suspect at the time. Still, with the rumored interest in the Corolla, and the knowledge such accidents many times involved students, would they have checked UMass parking lots for damaged cars? It would explain the need to smash up the Saturn and the need to do it across state lines, and maybe even the need to do it in plain view of several witnesses.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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This is how a rumor could start. People close to the case find out MM was pregnant or was doing a lot of searches on her pc to suggest that.
Maybe she leaves town to get a secret abortion. Okay fine everything makes sense, then she crashes and goes missing. Well you can't just tell Billy or the SR that they think she was pregnant if it wasn't his kid. Could she cheat on Billy? No way ofcourse not, Billy came from OK and SR from OH they are good people. When they hear about the possible pregnancy instead of making MM a cheater (remember family makes her a victim) someone whispers rape to take away any responsibility from her actions.
I'm not saying any of this happened, but that is how some of these scratch your head comments come from. They are made in defence of another possible issue.

Alden H Olson wrote:

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Actually, most or all of the Saturn's damage was sustained before it left Amherst. The body shop guy saw both the Saturn and the Corolla around the same time, and since both cars were owned by the same person, you’d think that Amherst PD, having been informed of this by the body shop guy, would have notified Haverhill PD. IOW, what understandably seemed like a crash to Smith might have been just a spinout. Smith almost certainly assumed initially that the damage happened at the WB curve, but in fact most of the damage did not happen there, maybe none it. Just not sure why this information was not included in the final version of Smith’s crash report.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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This is how a rumor could start. People close to the case find out MM was pregnant or was doing a lot of searches on her pc to suggest that.
Maybe she leaves town to get a secret abortion. Okay fine everything makes sense, then she crashes and goes missing. Well you can't just tell Billy or the SR that they think she was pregnant if it wasn't his kid. Could she cheat on Billy? No way ofcourse not, Billy came from OK and SR from OH they are good people. When they hear about the possible pregnancy instead of making MM a cheater (remember family makes her a victim) someone whispers rape to take away any responsibility from her actions.
I'm not saying any of this happened, but that is how some of these scratch your head comments come from. They are made in defence of another possible issue.

hannah_b wrote:

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I wonder where the rape rumor originated. Who told Renner? The pregnancy and cheating-on-Billy rumor has been around for quite a while. So why start a rape rumor now? Does someone fear/believe something is about to be revealed (by Renner)?

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I think you are misunderstanding. RG was not and is not an investigator.He helped our family out in our search for Maura.

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hannah_b wrote:

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When between Friday morning and Monday early pm would the body shop guy have seen the Saturn?

Snowy wrote:

this appears today on WCVB - i recall many of these stories.
looks like Boston authorities have no better luck than NH in solving disappearances / murders.
and MM is still receiving media coverage, even if Shack disagrees.
http://www.wcvb.com/news/-/9849222/11762868/-...

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BillNH wrote:

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RE: MM..."her family believes she was abducted, but officials say there is no evidence to support that"

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Alden H Olson wrote:

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Actually, most or all of the Saturn's damage was sustained before it left Amherst. The body shop guy saw both the Saturn and the Corolla around the same time, and since both cars were owned by the same person, you’d think that Amherst PD, having been informed of this by the body shop guy, would have notified Haverhill PD. IOW, what understandably seemed like a crash to Smith might have been just a spinout. Smith almost certainly assumed initially that the damage happened at the WB curve, but in fact most of the damage did not happen there, maybe none it. Just not sure why this information was not included in the final version of Smith’s crash report.

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Snowy wrote:

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now, my dear, you'r i've always maintained there would be no need, whatsoever, to head toward NH if she were pregnant and chose to have an abortion. there is no particular medical expertise, to my knowledge, that exists in NH...or maybe i'm missing the point.
as you suggest, just add "victim" to the equation!