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Jenkins wrote:
You're suggesting that we should consider something that in all likelihood has NEVER happened, if it has we're talking like MAYBE once or twice EVER.
you people do realize that women get murdered EVERY DAY right?? Anyone who's looking at something that never happens & actually considering it over something that happens ALL THE TIME is just putting their head in the sand &/or blaming the victim. And then they call it 'investigating'!!! WOW!!! Coming up with any stupid thing that MAYBE could POSSIBLY happen, but really never happens ever in the real world, that's not investigating, that's called MAKING SHIT UP!!
Blame to victim, awesome people do that, that's some real integrity right there.
Take your heads out of the sand and admit that women get murdered all the time, women get murdered by strangers all the time.
Then you might realize that there's a damn good chance that Maura got murdered by some sick fuck who hates women. Especially considering the area she went missing in.
That area has a long history of many women being murdered by strangers under very similar circumstances to MM, woman out on the road alone by herself. This has happened many times. Anybody who thinks that this couldn't have happened is seriously just in denial.
Be for real people!!!
Jenkins,

You are suffering from tunnel vision. I have my pet theories but anything could have happened to her, even a drug deal gone bad. You need to be more open to other possibilities because there are not enough facts to support one theory over another. Until there is, ANYTHING could have happened to her. There is no evidence she was abducted and murdered. NONE. That's all you, because it is what you believe. This history of women on the road being abducted and murdered in this area is laughable. The area allegedly worked by the Connecticut River Valley Killer was between 50 miles and 100 miles from Haverhill, was centered around Cleremont and was happening 15 - 20 years ago. Without that guy, the abduction on the road theory in this part or any part of NH is pretty thin. If you look at the northern part of NH is it almost not even worth mentioning.

I will say it again. Until we know what happened to her, almost any possibility is available. I know you feel like your abduction theory is likely but in my mind it is the least likely. Still possible of course but not high on my probability list.

This area is in the top 3 of safest places to live in the COUNTRY. Yes we have crime, yes we have violent crime, but to look at a 50 year history of being one of the safest places in the country and say "she was abducted because of the history" is an incredible stretching of the truth.

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this is still crazy stuff! the ping, the pong and the rant and rave.
bottom line is Jenkins has a need to be right. he keeps a tenacious grip on his own reality, but wears blinders to the possibilities outside of his tightly held views. his arguments are marked by his being a contrarian, and it's all as if it is being fueled by red bull.
truly amazing to have the privilege of observing this unique writing style and a window into the thought processes of this individual.

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whiston wrote:
Hi all Mauras' supervisor was told bye a third person that 'something was up with Maura' and then she went to check on Maura.We are told her supervisor advised her to see a counsellor so I assume Maura told her more of her situation.take care philip
"We are told..."
and
"...so I assume"
always tells a story that perpetuates fiction, not facts.

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BillNH wrote:
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Jenkins,
You are suffering from tunnel vision. I have my pet theories but anything could have happened to her, even a drug deal gone bad. You need to be more open to other possibilities because there are not enough facts to support one theory over another. Until there is, ANYTHING could have happened to her. There is no evidence she was abducted and murdered. NONE. That's all you, because it is what you believe. This history of women on the road being abducted and murdered in this area is laughable. The area allegedly worked by the Connecticut River Valley Killer was between 50 miles and 100 miles from Haverhill, was centered around Cleremont and was happening 15 - 20 years ago. Without that guy, the abduction on the road theory in this part or any part of NH is pretty thin. If you look at the northern part of NH is it almost not even worth mentioning.
I will say it again. Until we know what happened to her, almost any possibility is available. I know you feel like your abduction theory is likely but in my mind it is the least likely. Still possible of course but not high on my probability list.
This area is in the top 3 of safest places to live in the COUNTRY. Yes we have crime, yes we have violent crime, but to look at a 50 year history of being one of the safest places in the country and say "she was abducted because of the history" is an incredible stretching of the truth.
you are clearly proving you are new to the 10 year discussion, although fewer years on Topix, because you conclude, after all, that anything could have happened to Maura.
to remain in a tunnel, or to endlessly attempt to counterargue the tunnel-dweller out of his cave is...well...a Pointless Endeavor (caps for emphasis).

now, take your level of reasoning, and extend it to the intended book currently underway.
the facts are not fully established and the timeline can neither be complete nor accurate; the writer does not have access to records held by authorities because the investigation remains open.
i say the timing of the book, if published sooner than later, is premature. still, some will be curious to read it. i prefer to read non-fiction.
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SnowyB wrote:
this is still crazy stuff! the ping, the pong and the rant and rave.
bottom line is Jenkins has a need to be right. he keeps a tenacious grip on his own reality, but wears blinders to the possibilities outside of his tightly held views. his arguments are marked by his being a contrarian, and it's all as if it is being fueled by red bull.
truly amazing to have the privilege of observing this unique writing style and a window into the thought processes of this individual.
Hilarious....I was actually thinking red bull and vodka before I read your post! College kids are immune to drug killings...hmmmm, don't google that one Bobby boy, your reality might take a bit of a "hit" ( pardon the pun).... ; )

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Hilarious....I was actually thinking red bull and vodka before I read your post! College kids are immune to drug killings...hmmmm, don't google that one Bobby boy, your reality might take a bit of a "hit" ( pardon the pun).... ; )
i, seriously, wonder if the GF lives in a space where she is constantly challenged to defend her own points of view? or whether one of them surrenders to the other all of the time just to make it work?
argue? debate? we have our opinions....but, WOW!
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Posted by Ravetown. I'm looking for similarities to the nasty post on Renner's site.

I actually think that Shack misspoke or represented the situation unclearly this morning. I know that Fred has an odd, snarky, sometimes "prickly" sense of humour, and I suspect (though I wasn't there) that this was his usual way of backhanded but good-natured ribbing.

I don't think that Shack literally mean that his words were an "attack"--by her own admission he likely didn't mean it as such, and she clearly didn't take it as such.

Just wanted to back up Shack's response with my personal viewpoint and my experience of the Fred Murray Off-Kilter Sense of Humour.(perhaps that's where Maura got it from--remember her favourite movie is "Bottle Rocket" and she's known for her wit)

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Alden H Olson wrote:
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Tang - Are you still maintaining that RC Stevens was never hired by Fred Murray and that RC Stevens offered his unsolicited services to Fred Murray pro bono?
YES

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citigirl wrote:
JWB "I think I can prove the gut that emailed renner the nasty email is a fraud" Because of the racist remarks in this email I think it should be investigated by LE. If you think you can prove this email as fraud then maybe it was just a ploy to get people interested in JRs blog again. I personally would not have posted an email like this. I would have automatically sent it to the CCU and let them handle it.
i agree. it's likely a marketing ploy, given the slightly newer MM blog format that has emerged with a cleaner visual presentation; still, there is the same mission. looks like they are settling in for the long haul.

Team Green, the "professional" entourage now tending the blog, along with the prolific poster by the same name, is still have difficulty accessing factual information, the necessary stuff to prove MM's state of mind prior to, and at the time of her disappearance.

the dynamics of her relationships, which might shine a light on what motivated her leaving UMASS and subsequent disappearance, are hidden, therefore, the core of the mystery remains unsolved.

the forceful attacks against Orko, and the default, always, to Alden, however, suggest a power struggle and ownership issues that are less than professional. ego-driven "investigating" is revealed...it would be better hidden.

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a study in contrast
is
the self-described "compassionate" poster who defends and advocates for the helpless 73 year old
but
regularly appears as the contemptuous "Granny".
same "Granny" who mocks women unknown to him/her just by his taking offense to those who disagree with his/her ideas and opinions.

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Jenkins wrote:
Wowzer- yea no shit she's dead, I obviously wasn't joking about Kathy brunell and you know it.
You clearly said that just to try to make me look bad.
I said that making fun of Alden who about a month ago under a few different monikers went on & on about how KB looked just like MM when she went missing. Totally a joke about those stupid ridiculous posts trying to blame everything on McKay w KB as an accomplice, not a joke about her herself.
So who cares if she is dead? I wasn't joking about her but rather the idiot Alden that said she did a MM impression & helped McKay kill mm.
Why do you lie & mischaracterize what I say? Whats the point? Why do you & you angry band of misfit trolls care soooo much about what I say? Why try to hard to make me look bad? Weirdo!
But that's where you are wrong. I don't have to try at all to make you look bad or stupid. You do a great job of that on your own.

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SnowyB wrote:
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i agree. it's likely a marketing ploy, given the slightly newer MM blog format that has emerged with a cleaner visual presentation; still, there is the same mission. looks like they are settling in for the long haul.
Team Green, the "professional" entourage now tending the blog, along with the prolific poster by the same name, is still have difficulty accessing factual information, the necessary stuff to prove MM's state of mind prior to, and at the time of her disappearance.
the dynamics of her relationships, which might shine a light on what motivated her leaving UMASS and subsequent disappearance, are hidden, therefore, the core of the mystery remains unsolved.
the forceful attacks against Orko, and the default, always, to Alden, however, suggest a power struggle and ownership issues that are less than professional. ego-driven "investigating" is revealed...it would be better hidden.
just clarification for interpretation:
i am not saying Green didn't receive the recent, tasteless email about Maura, but i am saying the his focus on it, just like Renner's focus on Alden, may fuel a boost to readership, and to increase commentary where there is, otherwise, no new news.

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Jenkins wrote:
Orky- now you're saying that the phone call never happened??? The one that reduced her to tears?
I'm sorry but your whole argument about there being no phone call makes no sense to me & it never did. I might be wrong & just misunderstanding you but I don't think I am.
In an early news report a umass cop is quoted and is clearly talking about the call that came in after midnight that reduced her to tears. The cop straight up says they 'were able to trace the origin of the call but had no way of knowing who was on the other end'. Meaning the call came from an on campus phone that's found in a common area. It's clear what call they're talking about, I know you say things about there being confusion in the media but the cop is talking the call that took place after midnight, so I'm pretty sure your wrong.
The whole thing is that call wasn't recieved on her cell, it came into her desk phone. We know this bc there was no call from on campus to her cell phone. We know the cop said it was traced back an on campus phone. That means that the call came to her desk phone.
Maybe I'm way off base here but I don't believe I am.
Was the umass cop just completely making it up? Why would he make up something about tracing a call? Seems strange. Seems hard for the media to confuse what the cops said about the call & it being traced. I think youre wrong but I'm not sure.
Jenky,

the phone call never happened.

What you had back in 2004 was an on-going and constantly developing story in which the media was hanging on every new lead and word that investigators/police would say to the media.

Police thought (at the time) that they figured out what upset Maura that night because they heard from Maura's supervisor about Maura saying "my sister" and then about Maura pointing at her cell phone when she said my sister.

Once they determined that Maura talked to her sister that night, they put 2 and 2 together and made a connection.

But after talking to Maura's sister, they were unable to prove whether or not that phone call really was the thing that upset Maura and they became frustrated with Maura's sister (felt she wasn't being honest with them).

Either way, it has never been proven one way or the other what upset Maura that night. Just speculated.

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Was it REALLY Maura @ The Weathered Barn Corner on Feb. 9th 2004..?
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Bobpassthebongjenkins wrote:
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Hilarious....I was actually thinking red bull and vodka before I read your post! College kids are immune to drug killings...hmmmm, don't google that one Bobby boy, your reality might take a bit of a "hit" ( pardon the pun).... ; )
But Mr. Hand....bogus....
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whiston wrote:
Hi all Mauras' supervisor was told bye a third person that 'something was up with Maura' and then she went to check on Maura.We are told her supervisor advised her to see a counsellor so I assume Maura told her more of her situation.take care philip
Maura didn't say a thing to her supervisor other than "My Sister" and then while the two were in Maura's lobby of maura's dorm, maura told her supervisor that she would be OK and that her roommate was there for her.

Maura's supervisor suggested a counselor to maura because of the supervisor's own personal past and being able to sense that something was really wrong with maura.

Maura had no response to the supervisor for most of her questions to maura. So the supervisor backed off and quit trying to ask maura questions.

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Jenkins wrote:
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Ehh you're right shack, I've kinda rethought what I wrote last night & if a girl actually went missing in my neighborhood & LE wanted to do a land search & clear my property I would probably let them.
A missing person is kind of a very special circumstance clearly. The only reason I wouldn't allow a search would be just for the point of the matter & a missing person is not the place to make a point.
But remember I said that If the family wanted to search my land they'd be more than welcome to any time, I would never deny the family of a missing person i'd even take for a walk through of my house if they asked just to show them I'm on their side, I would never take LE on a walk through my house though.
My original point was that it's my property so I would be in a much better position than any cop to know what's out of place or not & if there was something out of place I would not touch anything & call the police to come check it out.
But in reality I would probably do a walk through with the cops through my property & point them to anything that appears to be out of place.
You're right shack, in a missing persons case that's the time to make special exceptions for a very special circumstance. I pray I'll never have to go through the experience of having someone dissapear from my neighborhood.
You don't own a house or have any private property. Easy for you to say that.

Any person with a home knowing the Aframe BS would throw out " they can search my property"

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Tang Zoi wrote:
Was it REALLY Maura @ The Weathered Barn Corner on Feb. 9th 2004..?
Alden was hitting this point a week or so ago. Is it your turn now?
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SnowyB wrote:
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just clarification for interpretation:
i am not saying Green didn't receive the recent, tasteless email about Maura, but i am saying the his focus on it, just like Renner's focus on Alden, may fuel a boost to readership, and to increase commentary where there is, otherwise, no new news.
Kind of makes you wonder if Green made it up/sent it to himself just to boost the blog with some new "mysterious something", in furtherance of your thought above. But nahhh, no one would do that. Would they?

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:
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Alden was hitting this point a week or so ago. Is it your turn now?
YES....what's Your point..?

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