Maura Murray

to clarify...the friend i mentioned is not a reference to Green or anyone known to him.
i can't venture a guess as to why some people need to misrepresent themselves, but it's intriguing.

SnowyB wrote:

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it's not the first or last time that posters / bloggers have misrepresented themselves as legal or medical professionals, or in law enforcement. i've been intrigued by the dynamic, which belongs in the realm of psychiatry and compulsivity around lying.
Green's statement, however guarded and pushing back at the very crowd he intruded upon, is at least an admission, at some level.
a friend, whom boasted of accomplishments that were never his own, never flinched when he admitted to the charade that was obvious to others.
and, again, to his credit, Green admits to his regret.
the greatest harm is that he may have jeopardized the responsibility and opportunity he was given.

Agreed. Green takes away credibility from the MM blog, and from Renner who entrusted him with the privilege to co-host the blog, and thereby also from Renner´s upcoming book.

John Green wrote:

By the way, to AMY RESEARCHES ...
The reason I took my FB information down is that people like you are utterly frightening freaks. You will note that I also took down where I grew up, all of my relatives names from my family relationships list ... because you are frightening. You are also an idiot. If you my credentials you moron, email me and I'll be happy to provide them.
John

Wow! Nice kindhearted man. Just the type of guy I'd want to email and give my phone number to in order to receive info. NOT!
If anyone looks like an idiot and a frightening freak it is YOU.

Tang Zoi wrote:

Where's Wowzer with all that Juicy info.?
Seems She does not want to share....

Wowzer picked up a bug last night from the forum and has been sick in bad all day. I see you missed me. ;)

Above post should say "sick in bed all day".
Damn fever.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Wowzer picked up a bug last night from the forum and has been sick in bad all day. I see you missed me. ;)

Sorry about the bug....

Yes I did miss You......Was hoping to get some juicy info You picked up.

C'mon share.

citigirl wrote:

John Green "I can infer from the context, but could you tell me what exactly the CCU is." Wow this is interesting he does not know who the CCU is with all his so called research and reading and posting on Renners blog and topix.

I have a feeling there's lots of things he doesn't know and that's why he is hanging around this forum. To get information.
After his rant and name calling episode last night I'd rather crawl through a tub of worms than offer him any "local" information.And while I had intentions of buying Renners book I'm afraid that it would now only leave a bad taste after seeing the arrogant and rude person he has put in charge of his blog and helping him with the book.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Sorry about the bug....
Yes I did miss You......Was hoping to get some juicy info You picked up.
C'mon share.

Another time Tang, another time.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

Above post should say "sick in bed all day".
Damn fever.

Hope your feeling better. I also was in bed for several days.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Another time Tang, another time.

Why wait..?

Wowzer the real one "I have a feeling there's lots of things he doesn't know and that's why he is hanging around this forum. To get information" Wowzer I agree.

Pippi Longstocking wrote:

Also, while I’m here, I’ll just to wade in a little with the current debate re: John Green. I think John needs to learn a little humility. I can see why he would be a little defensive, he’s taken a few big hits here, but his condescending attitude is endearing him to no one. I am particularly turned off by his habit of insulting someone and then adding ‘just tweaking’ or similar. It’s immature and passive aggressive in the extreme.

Too right you are. I just used the same words--passive aggressive--in a post to the Renner blog, but who knows whether it will ever appear. Renner seems to have disappeared. Maybe he's reconsidering having elevated John Green to a position that seems to have gone to his head.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Why wait..?

You are the King of not answering questions so let's just say this is karma biting you in the butt.
Besides I'm not done visiting yet.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Hope your feeling better. I also was in bed for several days.

Thank you citigirl. I hope you are better too.

Wowzer the real one
"After his rant and name calling episode last night I'd rather crawl through a tub of worms than offer him any "local" information" I dont blame you Wowzer. I agree.

A funny thing happened to me tonight while I was catching up on some genealogy. I was doing a basic search on the name Alden Olsen who was my great great grandfather born in Sweden in 1860 and died presumably in Gloucester sometime after 1930. And my search brought me here to your little community. I have never heard of the Maura Murray news story and it is certainly a fascinating subject. What is far more fascinating is the soap opera--the authentic human drama---which unfolds apparently daily in this Maura Murray Universe. Now to be sure, I have seen this before. Repeatedly in fact. This site is by no means unique. But I never fail to be absolutely enthralled when I come upon a site like this. To put it in a nutshell: a group of internet dwellers lay claim to a blog or newsgroup or some other internet community based page, and they defend their little piece of cyberspace by teaming up to attack, mock, badger, threaten, and in general bash and hack at unwanted strangers who happen upon their realm. Sometimes they even fall upon one of their own falling upon the unlucky denison with their word knives and driving him or her out of their midst. I have read the posts in this blog all the way back to its creation and simply find the whole evolution of Maura Murray World just mesmerizing in its scope. What is most interesting is how meaningless and devoid of purpose your world really is when viewed through the lens or point of view of the world of material density and gravitational consequence--ie the real world. You are like the citizens of locker c--18 but not as cute and fuzzy. Here you strut and fret and prance upon your cyber stages anonymously with such emotional and turbulent frenzy while waging your war for that little piece of earth you have claimed as your own territory--even though that little piece of earth exists only in the imaginary realm of ones and zeros. Hail to you good people of Locker--Maura Murray. I solute you Amy, and you Hannah, and you John Green, and you snowy B, and Alden Olsen(who may or may not be my long lost cousin), and you Tang Zoi and you Maruchan, and Ridiculous, and Pippi, and Wowzer, Bill and Benton and all the rest. You have made my life not the least bit better or worse but now I know that you are really there that you exist that you matter. May your long battles never end. May you succede in securing your patch of zeros and ones for eternity. God speed and good luck.
Ed Lowe

Ed is watching you wrote:

A funny thing happened to me tonight while I was catching up on some genealogy. I was doing a basic search on the name Alden Olsen who was my great great grandfather born in Sweden in 1860 and died presumably in Gloucester sometime after 1930. And my search brought me here to your little community. I have never heard of the Maura Murray news story and it is certainly a fascinating subject. What is far more fascinating is the soap opera--the authentic human drama---which unfolds apparently daily in this Maura Murray Universe. Now to be sure, I have seen this before. Repeatedly in fact. This site is by no means unique. But I never fail to be absolutely enthralled when I come upon a site like this. To put it in a nutshell: a group of internet dwellers lay claim to a blog or newsgroup or some other internet community based page, and they defend their little piece of cyberspace by teaming up to attack, mock, badger, threaten, and in general bash and hack at unwanted strangers who happen upon their realm. Sometimes they even fall upon one of their own falling upon the unlucky denison with their word knives and driving him or her out of their midst. I have read the posts in this blog all the way back to its creation and simply find the whole evolution of Maura Murray World just mesmerizing in its scope. What is most interesting is how meaningless and devoid of purpose your world really is when viewed through the lens or point of view of the world of material density and gravitational consequence--ie the real world. You are like the citizens of locker c--18 but not as cute and fuzzy. Here you strut and fret and prance upon your cyber stages anonymously with such emotional and turbulent frenzy while waging your war for that little piece of earth you have claimed as your own territory--even though that little piece of earth exists only in the imaginary realm of ones and zeros. Hail to you good people of Locker--Maura Murray. I solute you Amy, and you Hannah, and you John Green, and you snowy B, and Alden Olsen(who may or may not be my long lost cousin), and you Tang Zoi and you Maruchan, and Ridiculous, and Pippi, and Wowzer, Bill and Benton and all the rest. You have made my life not the least bit better or worse but now I know that you are really there that you exist that you matter. May your long battles never end. May you succede in securing your patch of zeros and ones for eternity. God speed and good luck.
Ed Lowe

To paraphrase a now defunct 90s rock band "Welcome to the jungle,baby"

Ed is watching you wrote:

A funny thing happened to me tonight while I was catching up on some genealogy. I was doing a basic search on the name Alden Olsen who was my great great grandfather born in Sweden in 1860 and died presumably in Gloucester sometime after 1930. And my search brought me here to your little community. <snipped to meet character length> God speed and good luck.
Ed Lowe

In the long held tradition of this place, I’m tempted to call you out as John Green. You mock the posters here and then you salute them. This is classic John. This post has more sarcasm than John’s usual efforts, though. I should probably Google your name and look at your holiday photos on Facebook but it’s early here in the UK and I haven’t had breakfast yet.

Although I agree it can get a little Lord of the Flies-esk around here, you paint a picture of an unfriendly place that, I think, is unfair. The posters here are not unfriendly - I am new here and two of the forum stalwarts took the time to welcome me. I also don’t think their motives are to chase all strangers off their little piece of cyber land. To paraphrase BillNH they just have good BS detectors around here. Admittedly, for one or two, this can spill over into paranoia at times but I think most people take the comments of these posters with a large pinch of salt.

A few people have misrepresented themselves here and that has made forum members wary. Also, you need to remember most people are here because they are interested in the mystery surrounding Maura Murray. Those who like mysteries and whodunits tend to want to unravel things, to look for clues, evidence, references and resources – we’re puzzlesolvers. If someone smells BS the natural instinct is to chase down the trail.
Anyway, I’m rambling.... You’ve said a lot about the posters here but, after trawling through the whole thread, did you come to any conclusions regarding Maura?

Ed is watching you wrote:

A funny thing happened to me tonight while I was catching up on some genealogy. I was doing a basic search on the name Alden Olsen who was my great great grandfather born in Sweden in 1860 and died presumably in Gloucester sometime after 1930. And my search brought me here to your little community. I have never heard of the Maura Murray news story and it is certainly a fascinating subject. What is far more fascinating is the soap opera--the authentic human drama---which unfolds apparently daily in this Maura Murray Universe. Now to be sure, I have seen this before. Repeatedly in fact. This site is by no means unique. But I never fail to be absolutely enthralled when I come upon a site like this. To put it in a nutshell: a group of internet dwellers lay claim to a blog or newsgroup or some other internet community based page, and they defend their little piece of cyberspace by teaming up to attack, mock, badger, threaten, and in general bash and hack at unwanted strangers who happen upon their realm. Sometimes they even fall upon one of their own falling upon the unlucky denison with their word knives and driving him or her out of their midst. I have read the posts in this blog all the way back to its creation and simply find the whole evolution of Maura Murray World just mesmerizing in its scope. What is most interesting is how meaningless and devoid of purpose your world really is when viewed through the lens or point of view of the world of material density and gravitational consequence--ie the real world. You are like the citizens of locker c--18 but not as cute and fuzzy. Here you strut and fret and prance upon your cyber stages anonymously with such emotional and turbulent frenzy while waging your war for that little piece of earth you have claimed as your own territory--even though that little piece of earth exists only in the imaginary realm of ones and zeros. Hail to you good people of Locker--Maura Murray. I solute you Amy, and you Hannah, and you John Green, and you snowy B, and Alden Olsen(who may or may not be my long lost cousin), and you Tang Zoi and you Maruchan, and Ridiculous, and Pippi, and Wowzer, Bill and Benton and all the rest. You have made my life not the least bit better or worse but now I know that you are really there that you exist that you matter. May your long battles never end. May you succede in securing your patch of zeros and ones for eternity. God speed and good luck.
Ed Lowe

hello, John G? Ed?

you are correct. like the band of Topix dwellers before the current, loosely held, mixed variety, the previous occupiers were and are territorial. the earlier group moved, simultaneously, between WebSleuths and 21Forum, and exists today in the form of MMM FB page. live and let live, right?

all in the name of Maura Murray.

comes another....Renner's blog. comments moderated. ownership is established.
Topix, however, is porous, as it is public, but there is some ability to establish intent and firm up the walls against those whom would be or are irresponsible.

all in the name of Maura Murray.

and there are lessons learned by the interactions here; lessons gathered from going deeply into exploring the evolution of who you think you are and what you stand for vs how you represent yourself. even if you think you're not, you are transparent...on Topix.

and all in the name of Maura Murray.

in fewer words, Mr. Green, discovery and self-examination.

Ridiculous is refreshing. not a cynic, he remains exuberant and connected to his authentic self and to others. he wraps his arms around an apology, and can be humbled by weighing his own level of responsibility to himself and to others.

we learn from each other, only when we submit to the lessons.
how? and why? have you ended up here, Mr. Green?
there is no permanence; you, we, us and this are changing, evolving with each interaction.