Maura Murray

Orko Kringer wrote:

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Most likely her car wouldn't have started for a decent amount of time after she crashed and her airbags deployed. Her car likely had to be reset (once it was towed) for it to be able to start again and that is why days later fred was able to start the car.
My money is on Maura attempting to start her car and flee the scene before she was interrupted by the SBD. Once he left, she knew she had to scram quickly as well.

Fuel pump inertia switch was turned off during the accident.This is normal during an accident or drastic g-forces to the car. Cycling the ignition on,off would reset the switch. God I love GM products...

Wow.. Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg was bumper to bumper.. Never again!!

I see on Ridic responded... Considering I was that way, figured maybe some response... I honestly work with any music that I can make money on lol... Just threw out a nugget & it sank........

Hope everyone had a safe weekend...

not that it matters to anyone else here other than myself, but for clarity's sake, whoever posted as "what if" from new jersey is not me as it am still very much in oklahoma.

whatif wrote:

not that it matters to anyone else here other than myself, but for clarity's sake, whoever posted as "what if" from new jersey is not me as it am still very much in oklahoma.

Funny, although you don't post often, I didn't think that was you.
; )

shes_still_here wrote:

Oh, and FM told Mm to use the rag to keep the smoking engine down to not alert cops. She wasn't supposed to drive outside Amherst with the car, the next weekend FM was going buy her a new car. That was what he told me. If it doesn't make sense, blame FM.

At the risk of encouraging the dragging out and flailing of a severely beaten old carcass.....I don't recall anyone suggesting this theory quite in this particular context..It actually makes good sense to me.

Emmett Dove wrote:

Wow.. Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg was bumper to bumper.. Never again!!
I see on Ridic responded... Considering I was that way, figured maybe some response... I honestly work with any music that I can make money on lol... Just threw out a nugget & it sank........
Hope everyone had a safe weekend...

Emmett,

I have a buddy from up here who fronts a local cover band. He did an originals cd a few years back and hasn't had any luck getting exposure or marketing it. Any Ideas? Youtube Jonathan Webster band..if you get a spare minute...Thanks ; )

whatif wrote:

not that it matters to anyone else here other than myself, but for clarity's sake, whoever posted as "what if" from new jersey is not me as it am still very much in oklahoma.

yes, it matters...and thank goodness, it wasn't you! i thought the post was absurd, but the natives jumped on it and gave full consideration and critique. lol

i should have noticed the "whatif" had a space in it.

well, it's time for me to do a little research (googling) about rags in tailpipes. mind you, i don't need to travel into the harvard or mit libraries, it can be done from the comforts of home.

i found lots of hits about Maura Murray on the subject, but we all know about those.

i found this:

*Rag the tailpipe – this one is simple. Go find a nice greasy rag and stick it in the tailpipe of the offenders whip, then sit back and watch the sputtering and backfiring take place. They won’t know WTF is going on with this one.*

this one:

*A potato in the tailpipe, and other automotive party tricks.*

there is a lovely photo of an artist's rendering:

http://aminus3.s3.amazonaws.com/image/g0017/u...

if anyone needs a glossary of terms, such as tailpipe, muffler and catalytic converter, i'll be happy to look more deeply into the subject and provide sources.

oh, and one more!
notice the suspicious activity around the trunk area, double pipes, and the potential perp can only be recognized by his feet. no rag, but t's worth looking into, however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

there will be some humorless souls who might not appreciate my efforts, but since we're back to clowning around, i might as well join in the fun. i've gone a little more than half my allotted word count and didn't waste too much of my time. or yours. ;)

I figured I'd find all of you here on Memorial Day. Does your clan celebrate this like regular Americans? or you guys just 'setting up a welcoming party'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

shes_still_here wrote:

Why not look beyond the rag and tailpipe theory? Why is FM frequenting certain areas after all these years. Why would he walk the same driveway and well-beaten trail? Does he have a guilty conscience? I've seen his actions and can only guess he knows more than a visitor in nh searching for his daughter. Why is any conversations of Maura running into the wilderness lead to "some dirtbag got her." Like a broken record... Can someone tell me where FM was on that night/morning? He dodged the question on our hike last year.Thank you.

good questions.

shes_still_here wrote:

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Fuel pump inertia switch was turned off during the accident.This is normal during an accident or drastic g-forces to the car. Cycling the ignition on,off would reset the switch. God I love GM products...

we had this problem once. turns out i must have hit the switch while vacuuming the interior under the seats. i'm more careful now. my live-in mechanic tells me resetting is different for various manufacturers; ours was reset by flipping the switch back.

Ridiculous wrote:

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At the risk of encouraging the dragging out and flailing of a severely beaten old carcass.....I don't recall anyone suggesting this theory quite in this particular context..It actually makes good sense to me.

I thank you for your thoughts. Its funny how forward some people are with answers when you ask the right way. Some people will drag out with all kinds of theories, but avoid the other questions that should be examined. I'm looking for a body and smoking gun, or in this case a most likely a body in severe decay ten years later and confession, not an "automobile stall" primer...

just another thought before leaving today.....
i wanted to share with you the distinction between "forest" and "woods", which i've often used interchangeably.
precision in language is everything or nothing in this endeavor.

a forest is
a large area covered chiefly with trees and undergrowth

woods
an area of land, smaller than a forest, that is covered with growing trees

so....did she disappear into the forest? or woods?

SnowyB wrote:

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we had this problem once. turns out i must have hit the switch while vacuuming the interior under the seats. i'm more careful now. my live-in mechanic tells me resetting is different for various manufacturers; ours was reset by flipping the switch back.

There is NO switch for this in the passenger compartment of the car.

Alden H Olson wrote:

Tang -
Ever been to Stockler's?

Yes I have....and You.?

shes_still_here wrote:

Oh, and FM told Mm to use the rag to keep the smoking engine down to not alert cops. She wasn't supposed to drive outside Amherst with the car, the next weekend FM was going buy her a new car. That was what he told me. If it doesn't make sense, blame FM.

Oh Really.....and Who would You be.?

SnowyB wrote:

just another thought before leaving today.....
i wanted to share with you the distinction between "forest" and "woods", which i've often used interchangeably.
precision in language is everything or nothing in this endeavor.
a forest is
a large area covered chiefly with trees and undergrowth
woods
an area of land, smaller than a forest, that is covered with growing trees
so....did she disappear into the forest? or woods?

A Small forest or piece of land.

http://www.yo utube .com/user/Mr112dir tbag/feed?filter=1 "I'm Beagle. I'm too ashamed&#65279 ; to post under my real name. On Topix & YouTube, I use many names to avoid detection & praise/engage Beagle as if a different person, trying to make Beagle seem important. But I am laughed at, pitied, disregarded or ignored. My motive? I WANT TO BE JAMES RENNER. OH PLEASE GOD! People respect & value his MM work. I try hard to sound mysteriously knowledgeable like Fox Mulder, but I'm laughed at. So I cruelly post awful videos about MM to get the attention I need & getJR posters talking about me. Nnext best thing given that my insane posts aren't approved onto the JR blog. I'm sad & lonely. I'm nothing apart from my obsession to be important to Maura's life, even though I am irrelevant to it and lack fundamental knowledge about it Some feel bad for me but I deny. I am about the addictive rush I get from falsely associating myself with MM. I continue running away from the truth of my own life and the spirit, ever toward the insane oblivion.----- I'm Beagle. I'm too ashamed&#65279 ; to post under my real name. On Topix & YouTube, I use many names to avoid detection & praise/engage Beagle as if a different person, trying to make Beagle seem important. But I am laughed at, pitied, disregarded or ignored. My motive? I WANT TO BE JAMES RENNER. OH PLEASE GOD! People respect & value his MM work. I try hard to sound mysteriously knowledgeable like Fox Mulder, but I'm laughed at. So I cruelly post awful videos about MM to get the attention I need & getJR posters talking about me. Nnext best thing given that my insane posts aren't approved onto the JR blog. I'm sad & lonely. I'm nothing apart from my obsession to be important to Maura's life, even though I am irrelevant to it and lack fundamental knowledge about it Some feel bad for me but I deny. I am about the addictive rush I get from falsely associating myself with MM. I continue running away from the truth of my own life and the spirit, ever toward the insane oblivion."

Tang Zoi wrote:

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There is NO switch for this in the passenger compartment of the car.

Rephrase....not that is accessible to hit w/ a vacuum.

Yo Beags.....Do You need My help or not..?

But I am not into wrestling..!

thinking back to West Point. first of all, it's FREE. when you've got 3, 4, 5 or 7 kids at home, it's a good plan and a good solution for providing higher education.
Maura, in high school, was a student and athlete.
the expectation and progression, especially since a sibling paved the way, was to follow with daughter #2.

at the finish line, the obligation to fulfill is military service.
Maura, obviously, didn't complete her education at WP.
what was the financial obligation, if any, for leaving after approx 3 semesters or 1 1/2 academic years?

and what was the end date marking her departure from WP, and the start ate of the transfer to UMASS? the transition matters.
did she send a semester in-between living at home? was she a day student during that time? or was the semester completed at WP and she was able to jump right into her studies at UMASS?

apart from the reason(s) for her being dismissed from WP, were her academics suffering during that last semester?
was she managing to rise to a tough major, chem engineering, with associated challenges and competition at WP...or was she falling?

i don't believe any of the information coming from sources that surrounded MM and her family on discussion boards in all of these years. there are all kinds of story lines made up about her life and relationships prior to her disappearance, many of which were spoon-fed and swallowed whole by the public.

alas, without verification from the institutions, and given records are inaccessible, as you know and have found, there will be no answers. and those puzzle pieces are important.

was there a financial obligation for having spent those semesters at WP?
how did expenses overlap during the transfer to UMASS? even if tuition was provided, room and board would need to be met, along with associated loans. it gets complicated.

and then she cracks up a car...and another.

if she was not the victim of stranger abduction on a rural road in NH in a matter of minutes, then the answers to her disappearance lie in the progression of starts and stops in her life beyond high school.

and why did she leave UMASS on that day, anyway?

i don't envy the task you've set out for yourself.