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Bill is a pig wrote:

It the book also.

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Bill is a pig wrote:

Sounds like Bill is a wee bit jealous of Renner. James has the balls to actually investigate rather than frequent message boards and smear people. I think you freaks are afraid of this case being solved. It would end your pathetic social lives. Everyone claims they want to find out the fate of this poor girl, but , you piss and moan when he posts stuff that goes against your theories. I say you should be thanking Renner; all of you will. It the book also.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I have to disagree with this a little bit. Though you might be saying the same thing. There are better objective theories and there actually is a theorem that has been in use for centuries that helps determine what theories are very likely better. Doesn't mean it is always the right theory but it helps weed out ones that aren't needed. The "best" theories are always those that can fulfill all the known facts in the simplest terms (i.e. Occams razor). Creating theories outside of the known facts or introducing "extra" items to make it fit the theory (many people here and in the previous forums love to do this) that people are trying to prove pushes them from theories into the realm of fiction or speculation. In and of itself, speculation isn't a problem. Unfortunately, in this and the other forums it was pushed beyond speculation into a mob mentality where several of the speculators didn't label the crap they were pushing as gross speculation (absolutely no basis in the known facts) and then they and others took it to be truth and common knowledge and added it to the known facts category. Not the way to run an "investigation". And harmful to the people that were involved on the periphery of this disappearance, like SBD and CW.
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SnowyB wrote:

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has anyone recently told Granny/JWB/& varied monikers that his/her/its self-talk reflects poorly on any claims to its supposed intelligence, integrity, and mental health?
at the very least, its self-admiration fails to convince me that it's making any valid points.
the situation appears grim, hopeless and idiotic.

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Ridiculous wrote:

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Snowy,
This one has more wit and humor than any of my attempts. Bravo and spot on. I hope Wowzer isn't drinking coffee when she reads this! ; )

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Ridiculous wrote:

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Snowy,
This one has more wit and humor than any of my attempts. Bravo and spot on. I hope Wowzer isn't drinking coffee when she reads this! ; )

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Snowy hit the nail on the head. Hilarious!
I no longer drink anything at the computer. Got tired of hubby telling me the keys were sticky.

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jwb wrote:

Forget about JG

BillNH wrote:

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And I will only disagree a little also. Since there are so few facts, I don't think there is anything that can be ruled out entirely. I find it very unlikely that SBD saw anything and was afraid to come forward, or was an accomplice in MM's disappearance, or that CW was involved or that some local saw something and is afraid to come forward. That is all on the verge of fiction, but not quite complete fiction. It can be nearly impossible, but not 100% impossible until something definitively rules it out. We are very short on definite's. MM didn't "probably" disappear, she really did. So probabilities of her fate can go right up to the edge of impossible, but cannot take the plunge. The actual is still unknown and could still be anything, including that 1 chance in a million thing.

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Findmaura wrote:

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Your statement is very accurate&well worded..I agree with this completely.Nothing can be ruled out.

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BillNH wrote:

The actual is still unknown and could still be anything, including that 1 chance in a million thing.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I'm surprised with your posts. Didn't expect this from you.
"The actual" can't be anything. They're a very small finite number of outcomes that could have happened to Maura. There is no one in a million scenarios.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I'm surprised with your posts. Didn't expect this from you.
"The actual" can't be anything. They're a very small finite number of outcomes that could have happened to Maura. There is no one in a million scenarios.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I completely agree nothing or no one can or should be ruled out.
That 15 year olds you see today in the street ask them what they were doing 9 years ago. Maybe she ran into the Children of the Corn.
The man at the mall in the wheelchair his whole life ask him where he was when she disappeared.
Or what about the children under ten years old? Should they be ruled out?

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BillNH wrote:

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I will ignore the sarcasm and give you a true life scenario.
I had a friend in high school who's grandfather had lost both legs. Cannot remember why exactly, he was about 75 years old. I was at this friends house one day when someone called the house and said the grandfather was in an accident and needed some help. The friend and I hopped in his truck and headed to where the accident was. The grandfather had a 72 Impala that was rigged with a lever under the steering wheel that was connected to the gas pedal and the brake pedal. Push the lever right, the car accelerates, to the left it brakes. Well the lever broke, the grandfather lost control while trying to figure out a way to stop the car and took out 2 mailboxes and ended up in the front yard of the caller, lightly hitting a tree. The grandfather banged his head, was a little incoherent so we had to be told what happened by the mans 7 year old granddaughter that was in the back seat. The 6 and 5 year old siblings of the 7 year old corroborated the story, as they were in the back seat also. No police were called, the friend and I fixed the mailboxes and the Impala, the friends mother patched up grandpa.
Now tell me what couldn't have happened to MM....
Highly unlikely of course, improbable definitely, but not impossible. Your wheelchair bound man and 3 little kids could have killed a person instead of a couple mailboxes. This is my point.

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BillNH wrote:

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I will ignore the sarcasm and give you a true life scenario.
I had a friend in high school who's grandfather had lost both legs. Cannot remember why exactly, he was about 75 years old. I was at this friends house one day when someone called the house and said the grandfather was in an accident and needed some help. The friend and I hopped in his truck and headed to where the accident was. The grandfather had a 72 Impala that was rigged with a lever under the steering wheel that was connected to the gas pedal and the brake pedal. Push the lever right, the car accelerates, to the left it brakes. Well the lever broke, the grandfather lost control while trying to figure out a way to stop the car and took out 2 mailboxes and ended up in the front yard of the caller, lightly hitting a tree. The grandfather banged his head, was a little incoherent so we had to be told what happened by the mans 7 year old granddaughter that was in the back seat. The 6 and 5 year old siblings of the 7 year old corroborated the story, as they were in the back seat also. No police were called, the friend and I fixed the mailboxes and the Impala, the friends mother patched up grandpa.
Now tell me what couldn't have happened to MM....
Highly unlikely of course, improbable definitely, but not impossible. Your wheelchair bound man and 3 little kids could have killed a person instead of a couple mailboxes. This is my point.