Maura Murray

Mrs Salamone Told JR that the PI told her the reason they didn't contact earlier was because they had gone in a different direction with the investigation. LR determines the investigation.

This is probably a dead end lead anyway but an important one in my eyes. It gave a frame of thought (Mauras). It is assumed she called them to inquire about their Condo but how do we know this to be true? The salamones don't remember the conversation.

This call should have been investigated right from the start and thoroughly in my opinion unless something else was so blatantly obvious that it too them to another path.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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So if Healy was working "with" LE he wouldn't ask LE if they checked her phone records?
It is so illogical that no matter what you state you can't reach a logical explanation as to why it wasn't done. So you have to believe:
1. That it was done
2. They knew where she was going to stay and it didn't need to be done
To think anything else in my opinion would be absurd.

I think we actually agree but we don't know it. I said earlier that I am sure they ran the number through the system but they still didn't call the number. Mrs salamone said so herself. She said nobody contacted her so that must be true right? They took another path.

Even if they took another path,a hasty search would be to contact the number of the last person she called. It makes zero sense not to call or interview them early on.

JWB wrote:

OK
Lighthouse, what is your point (end game)? Incompetent Private investigators? Family that is clueless?Great LE?
I am just not sure where you are going with it.

None of the above. I started this by writing to MCS MOM to tell her that LE didn't call Salmone because they probably knew her destination. I just wanted to get the point across before we got the Damnation coming over LE not calling the Salmones. It seems FM who really doesn't say anything definitive in the Disappeared episode seems confident she was going to Bartlett. So I didn't want to get the damnation going.

I wasn't Condemning LE ha ha.I guess I should have let you two duke it out. I was only saying that it shouldn't fall on the family or the PI because LE was investigating and running the show. I also said that I thought they prob did run the numbers.

Bottom line as stated in my previous post is that it was a call that should have had immediate attention.

Anyway- Good conversation

One more point

Even if LE might have known her destination, LE should have contacted them to see if they remembered the phone call and what her frame of mind was etc.. LE had no clue about any connection with the salamones without talking to them right? How could they?

It's my opinion based on NHLE behavior in other investigations, that of course they considered this phone call to Salamones essential in determining the whereabouts of Maura.

There are very few reasons IMO, why they apparently didn't contact Linda Salamone.

JWB wrote:

One more point
Even if LE might have known her destination, LE should have contacted them to see if they remembered the phone call and what her frame of mind was etc.. LE had no clue about any connection with the salamones without talking to them right? How could they?

So lets say they did contact her. Are the Salamones smart enough to know the "frame of mind of someone" if they thought something was weird chances are the call would have been remembered for being an interesting conversation with someone.

Do you think Maura who called Salamone is calling her for advice? No she is calling her for a rental meaning that she is probably telling her everything she needs to hear to get the place rented to her.

Not many landlords are looking to rent to 21 year olds that are troubled. So please believe me if they spoke Maura was trying to be a plain jane to get a place rented.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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So lets say they did contact her. Are the Salamones smart enough to know the "frame of mind of someone" if they thought something was weird chances are the call would have been remembered for being an interesting conversation with someone.
Do you think Maura who called Salamone is calling her for advice? No she is calling her for a rental meaning that she is probably telling her everything she needs to hear to get the place rented to her.
Not many landlords are looking to rent to 21 year olds that are troubled. So please believe me if they spoke Maura was trying to be a plain jane to get a place rented.

What I meant by frame of mind was not her demeanor, but what she was calling them for, Was she looking to rent a place,was she calling for help etc... LE had no idea of the connection between Maura and the Salamones and couldn't have known unless they called and spoke with them or found a search on her computer.

How would LE know what possible potential relationship existed between Maura and the Salamones?

I'm guessing they had confirmation about Maura of some sort.

Maybe the Londonderry ping was the confirmation LE needed with regards to the Salamones.
Wouldn't their location in MA be within the range of the cell tower?

mcsmom wrote:

Maybe the Londonderry ping was the confirmation LE needed with regards to the Salamones.
Wouldn't their location in MA be within the range of the cell tower?

No, Wakefield is about 36 miles away. Even if that was the case, they still would not have any idea of the conversation that took place. Also, the ping was someone calling Maura and not Maura calling someone.

JWB wrote:

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No, Wakefield is about 36 miles away. Even if that was the case, they still would not have any idea of the conversation that took place. Also, the ping was someone calling Maura and not Maura calling someone.

Exactly.

Thought this was an interesting post years ago.

Posted: Wednesday, March 16, 2011
Article comment by: Molly Whelan

I feel very strongly that the bus driver was involved and trying to cover his tracks..........or someone stopped to help her and abducted her or maybe one in the same man..........from the show that aired on ID TV entitled "Disappeared" on 3/16/11 that I just finished watching........is there any correlation between the bus drivers description and the description of the man she was seen with in the convenience store by that woman witness who said she thought it was Maura seen with an older man and Maura was standing in the store with her arms folded in front of her mouthing "help me" to this woman..........my suggestion would be to find this woman who thought she saw Maura in the convenience store and show her a picture of the bus driver and ask this witness if the bus driver was the man she saw with Maura.......my heart goes out to the family and boyfriend of Maura

SBD's image was broadcast nearly as much as Maura's. Would it be fair to say that the person in the convenience store would have scrutinized the older man as much as Maura? And wouldn't they then note that the older man looked like SBD? The lynch mob is forming again.

RIP SBD wrote:

SBD's image was broadcast nearly as much as Maura's. Would it be fair to say that the person in the convenience store would have scrutinized the older man as much as Maura? And wouldn't they then note that the older man looked like SBD? The lynch mob is forming again.

I know your soo right. And Maura was a runner and this was an old man. He obviously didn't have her shackled in public you would think she would be able to run away from him.

RIP SBD wrote:

SBD's image was broadcast nearly as much as Maura's. Would it be fair to say that the person in the convenience store would have scrutinized the older man as much as Maura? And wouldn't they then note that the older man looked like SBD? The lynch mob is forming again.

I found the author more interesting than the contents. You couldn't be further from the truth regarding a lynch mob. Try again.

mcsmom wrote:

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I found the author more interesting than the contents. You couldn't be further from the truth regarding a lynch mob. Try again.

I read it 3 times to try and figure out what the point of the post was. Looked like another attempt to cast the SBD as the abductor. If there was another point to the post, it was well hidden.

RIP SBD wrote:

SBD's image was broadcast nearly as much as Maura's. Would it be fair to say that the person in the convenience store would have scrutinized the older man as much as Maura? And wouldn't they then note that the older man looked like SBD? The lynch mob is forming again.

I think anybody that hears about the MM case will jump on the last people to see her,~at first.
SBD was on his bus though as witnessed by one neighbor, and at her car 1-2 minutes before police pulled up, so he's out.
This new poster had just seen an episode and like WTH/Bill says, each new person comes in thinking they might solve the case. It's just the way it is.

Question for anyone:

Just driving by a cell tower....can it produce a ping? In otherwords pick up a signal from an active cell, even back in 2004?

Reason I ask is I've heard of people saying they were at X and such place, but cell records show a different story. Sometimes the person did not call/recieve on their cell, but the towers connect to them somehow. They are a tracking device of sorts.

I think the last name is spelled diffferently if that is. What you were. Getting at mcsmom

mcsmom wrote:

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I found the author more interesting than the contents. You couldn't be further from the truth regarding a lynch mob. Try again.

I would argue that authors on a blog can only be judged by the contents in their post.