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Citigirl, does it really matter that he wasn't "out there with you then"? If he is seeking and finds the truth, what difference does it make? None. I also am not buying that he is in this to make a buck - it is a poor way to make a buck if he is sincere as he appears to be about his methods. I have to say that if he actually finds out what happened, isn't that what almost everyone wants? If not, why not? It's possible that I could be wrong, but can having an open mind be such a bad idea? Why???
Sophie if you read his blog he is only donating 10% of his prceeds from the book and the other 90% percent of the proceeds is his. He has claimed to interview family. Maybe he has maybe he hasnt. But some he has interviewed has never stepped in NH to search for Maura. Im family my sister is family and we spent 3 and a half years going up north searching for Maura. Why has he not knocked on our doors?
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All I know is I pray that someday Those involved in Maura's death will come forward. Her Parents couldn't even give her a proper funeral/service. She is still out there. NH screwed this investigation up from the beginning, just like they did with little Patric McCarthy who went missing October 13, 2003 in Lincoln NH, and was found deceased 5 days later. COVER-UP for both children. I pray for justice for both families.
Proof of my therory. There is always a coverup, the local police always screw up the investigation. The most logical and likely possibility is discounted, there is always a conspiracy.
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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>Sophie if you read his blog he is only donating 10% of his prceeds from the book and the other 90% percent of the proceeds is his. He has claimed to interview family. Maybe he has maybe he hasnt. But some he has interviewed has never stepped in NH to search for Maura. Im family my sister is family and we spent 3 and a half years going up north searching for Maura. Why has he not knocked on our doors?
Citigirl, you are not answering the questions I asked. I find that interesting and disappointing. I ask again, IF he finds the truth about what happened to Maura, what difference would his motivation possibly make? Surely you want the answers to those questions.It's not about him, you, me, or anyone posting here - it about finding the truth for Maura, isn't it?
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Proof of my therory. There is always a coverup, the local police always screw up the investigation. The most logical and likely possibility is discounted, there is always a conspiracy.
Not helpful. Sometimes there is a coverup, sometimes there isn't. Sometimes the most "likely" or "logical" possibility is the answer, sometimes it isn't. Obfuscating much?
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Not helpful. Sometimes there is a coverup, sometimes there isn't. Sometimes the most "likely" or "logical" possibility is the answer, sometimes it isn't. Obfuscating much?
No, I was pretty direct, perhaps you just don't want to see common sense.

Let me ask you since you say "sometimes there is a coverup, sometimes there isn't"... When was there a coverup? You state that as if it happens all the time, could be or couldn't be. When is it? And why? Why would the police coverup this case and the McCarthy case? What reason could there be? And let me ask you this, do you really believe that people are capable of keeping quiet about a massive coverup, over many years, from which they have nothing the gain, and no common goal?

Seriously, think about it, use your common sense if it exists. Make a convincing argument that is based on fact that in the middle of Grafton County, on a cold dark night, multiple people, cops and other, conspired to kill a complete stranger, hide her body, and then cover it up for almost ten years?

Or for the Patric McCarthy case, someone killed that little boy, carried his body halfway up the mountain, made the body look like it was a victim of hypothermia, hid all signs of trauma, then pulled multiple Law Enforcement agencies into the conspiracy, local cops, Fish and Game, State Police, Medical Examiner, and others.. All to coverup the death of a little boy who they didn't know and had nothing to gain..

Is that more likely than a sad depressed woman who decided she had had enough and walked into the woods and succumbed to the elements or that s acred to death little boy got lost and terrified and walked into the woods before succumbing to the elements?

Think about it.
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Citigirl, you are not answering the questions I asked. I find that interesting and disappointing. I ask again, IF he finds the truth about what happened to Maura, what difference would his motivation possibly make? Surely you want the answers to those questions.It's not about him, you, me, or anyone posting here - it about finding the truth for Maura, isn't it?
Of course I want the answers to what happened to Maura. But dont say your investigating a case and never talk to the ones whom have actually been involved from the beginning. The difference is LE is investigating the case with no profits to themselves. They are just trying to solve a missing persons case. Mr Renner is just writing a book that he will profit on with out talking to all involoved in the case. Why dont we jusy get rid of all LE because MR Renner can show up years later and solve all cases by writing books.

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Wouldn't it be nice if there was at least a slight respite from the bickering and perhaps a hint of an open mind which might admit that Mr Renner may not have an axe to grind. So far, his comments have met with some anger from virtually all "positions" - I find that very odd indeed.He has accused no one and has put forth no hypothesis at all.
No anger here. I'm hoping/praying the man can keep digging until he finds out why she left, what happened to her and where she is located.
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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>Sophie if you read his blog he is only donating 10% of his prceeds from the book
Only 10%!?! He is in no way obligated to donate anything. He made $5,000.00 on his Amy book and his expenses were more than $5,000.00. His travel expenses to NH and Amherst will be much higher, Amy was in Ohio. An author and investigator should be compensated for their work. An outraged sense of entitlement is seen here. He is working hard and digging, digging, digging. It's a lot of work. He doesn't owe the Murray family anything. His book is his donation - his donation to finding out what happened to Maura. The Murray family should be grateful. Renner is investigating in Amherst as well as NH, Fred never wanted Amherst discussed. No Renner did not search for Maura in 2009, he never heard of her in 2009. Neither did I and a whole lot of other people. What matters is that right now he is doing everything he can to help find Maura.
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No, I was pretty direct, perhaps you just don't want to see common sense.
Let me ask you since you say "sometimes there is a coverup, sometimes there isn't"... When was there a coverup? You state that as if it happens all the time, could be or couldn't be. When is it? And why? Why would the police coverup this case and the McCarthy case? What reason could there be? And let me ask you this, do you really believe that people are capable of keeping quiet about a massive coverup, over many years, from which they have nothing the gain, and no common goal?
Seriously, think about it, use your common sense if it exists. Make a convincing argument that is based on fact that in the middle of Grafton County, on a cold dark night, multiple people, cops and other, conspired to kill a complete stranger, hide her body, and then cover it up for almost ten years?
Or for the Patric McCarthy case, someone killed that little boy, carried his body halfway up the mountain, made the body look like it was a victim of hypothermia, hid all signs of trauma, then pulled multiple Law Enforcement agencies into the conspiracy, local cops, Fish and Game, State Police, Medical Examiner, and others.. All to coverup the death of a little boy who they didn't know and had nothing to gain..
Is that more likely than a sad depressed woman who decided she had had enough and walked into the woods and succumbed to the elements or that s acred to death little boy got lost and terrified and walked into the woods before succumbing to the elements?
Think about it.
You're reading far more into my post than was there. I am simply saying that coming out and saying "this could have happened...that could have happened" and sarcastically dismissing the possibility of a coverup EVER taking place which could ever involve LE - not in any specific case - is not helpful or accurate. I am by no means saying that I have any evidence of any kind that a coverup took place in either case you suggest. I also cannot entirely dismiss the possibility / likelihood that someone, not necessarily LE, knows more than they've said. You're seeking ot inflame where my intent was simply clarification, nothing more, nothing less. You have, however, said a lot.
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No anger here. I'm hoping/praying the man can keep digging until he finds out why she left, what happened to her and where she is located.
Well, no anger is good. I would like to know what happened to her and where she is. Why she left MA may or may not be relevant to the other two pieces of information. What I mean is that she may have met with foul play that was completely unrelated to MA or her reasons for leaving. That's all.
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Well, no anger is good. I would like to know what happened to her and where she is. Why she left MA may or may not be relevant to the other two pieces of information. What I mean is that she may have met with foul play that was completely unrelated to MA or her reasons for leaving. That's all.
and on that note, the foul play could be completely unrelated to NH other than the fact that she dumped her car there.
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I'm a big fan of leaving literally no stone unturned in a missing persons or unsolved case. If that happens, those stones that get turned over may reveal things that might not be related to the case at hand. It's possible that increased scrutiny could turn up things that some people don't want to come into the light. I have no idea what those things might be. I will say that anyone who says "don't look there" for ANY reason awakens my curiosity.

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I want the answers to what happened to Maura. But dont say your investigating a case and never talk to the ones whom have actually been involved from the beginning. The difference is LE is investigating the case with no profits to themselves. They are just trying to solve a missing persons case. Mr Renner is just writing a book that he will profit on with out talking to all involoved in the case. Why dont we jusy get rid of all LE because MR Renner can show up years later and solve all cases by writing books.
I think your panties are in a wad because you're worried you won't be in the book.
With your attitude toward him he'd probably rather fight a nest of hornets than knock on your door.
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sorry about the double post!
citigirl

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Only 10%!?! He is in no way obligated to donate anything. He made $5,000.00 on his Amy book and his expenses were more than $5,000.00. His travel expenses to NH and Amherst will be much higher, Amy was in Ohio. An author and investigator should be compensated for their work. An outraged sense of entitlement is seen here. He is working hard and digging, digging, digging. It's a lot of work. He doesn't owe the Murray family anything. His book is his donation - his donation to finding out what happened to Maura. The Murray family should be grateful. Renner is investigating in Amherst as well as NH, Fred never wanted Amherst discussed. No Renner did not search for Maura in 2009, he never heard of her in 2009. Neither did I and a whole lot of other people. What matters is that right now he is doing everything he can to help find Maura.
I could right a book. But will not because I refuse to exploit the missing regardless as whethter or not it is a family member. I didnt say he owed us anything. But the fact is wouldnt you interview those that where involved in the case? Im grateful for LE that has been involved in Mauras case from day one not for someone whom has shown up years later that has never been involved in the case until they decide they want to write a book.
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And let me ask you this, do you really believe that people are capable of keeping quiet about a massive coverup, over many years, from which they have nothing the gain, and no common goal?

Think about it.
They all had cobra snakes for neckties. Think about that.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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I think your panties are in a wad because you're worried you won't be in the book.
With your attitude toward him he'd probably rather fight a nest of hornets than knock on your door.
Sorry Wowzer but Im not wearing panties. And no I dont want to be in his book.
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Renner's probably correct when he says he's not going to make much or even any money on THIS book. But this book, if it's published, could easily be a stepping stone to another, more profitable book deal, maybe a movie, maybe a teaching position, maybe a bunch of magazine articles, maybe more publicity, maybe a lot of things that COME from writing a book that by itself doesn't make a lot of money.

Which doesn't necessarily mean his motives are suspect or bad. Or that he will twist the truth. Or that he won't help find out what happened to Maura. Writing a book that doesn't in and of itself turn a profit doesn't mean it won't lead to more money down the road.

If he wants to advance his career, he has to write more than one book about a girl in Ohio that no one ever knew and probably doesn't care about too much. He needs, as a writer, more than one book under his belt. Do you really think that if a "Maura Murray" book gets published and sells sufficiently, that Renner will stop there?
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Do any of the docs Renner has published in his blotspot posts support the contention that police expressed more than routine interest in the Corolla?
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Does anyone know how many cases were solved by Renner and his books?

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