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Lighthouse 101 wrote: <quoted text>
Maybe that is what he is going for? A lifetime movie would bring more profit than probably book sales. I have thought that is a possibility from the beginning. There sure isn't a satisfactory ending for this story to anyone I can think of. So it has to have some other spice to sell it. If you do an honest evaluation of the evidence as the police have done you are left with an overwhelming feeling of, I have no fxxking idea. Some suspicions, but certainly no story. A story has a beginning, a middle and an ending. This one only has a beginning. Bill
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Lighthouse 101 wrote: <quoted text>
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James - your forcing this. She is running away for the rest of her life (according to you) why does a two bedroom really matter?
Metaphorically thats like smuggling mexicans across the border in a coach bus because it would be to uncomfortable to hide without a seat.
Why spend more money on an extra bed, when she could squeeze into a one bedroom with someone. Surely she can trust them to share a bed, I mean they are helping her run away. Right? Jumping in here to follow your thoughts, and then some. It's true Maura called the condo, but it's not clear what she wanted. Did she simply want to speak with a guest in one of the many, many, condo's & rentals, but needed the number. OR: Was the call one more for the road,~-`~, as in "I've made it look like this is where I'm going, they'll see that when they look at my cellphone log. Who at school said "Maura was too smart to use the library computers".....to look things up. Seems like an odd thing to say. In which context was it used? One LS's mother or grandmother had just died. That's what the obits said anyway. Whether it was hers or her husbands mother/grandmother is no matter, unless it's not the same LS written in plain English in the obits. The woman was 90 or 92 from what I recall. Point is, someone had died, she said, and I don't know if it's ever been looked into. I LOVE your border crossing analogy. I keep thinking that Maura might be confirming/making plans to meet.....whatever, with someone alone or in a group that was either partying/visiting/skiing/vacat ioning, and she finally decided to make "the" call...... OR: if she knew of and was fond of an old woman she sorta grew up to like very much, a funeral. It's worth looking into though. JMO
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paris
Isanti, MN
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SnowyB wrote: <quoted text>
even my dog will routinely disappear in seemingly seconds and in one of many directions, unless my eyes and my very presence is focused on her.
if i turn my back, the challenge becomes knowing which diection she's set out on. A couple months back, just the three of us were getting baby some shoes. Grandson, age 4, was right there. In the end he was LITTERALLY right there too. But behind some hanging clothes. My mistake was thinking that he ran off, to include outside. I found out I can still run with a baby and bags for five lonnnnnnnngg minutes. I recruited four employees and asked the one to stay in the last place we were. I teach them if lost "-to go back to the last place we were".......we all called out to him, nothing. I finally rushed back to the place because I could have SWORN he could NOT leave my sight that quick....pulled back the clothes out of pure desperation, and there he was,- too worried and I suppose ashamed to even answer why he did this to us.
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paris
Isanti, MN
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One long isle....... Hanging baby outfits on the left/baby shoes on the right.
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Chatham, MA
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James Renner wrote: <quoted text>
Yeah. Except she had already passed up a ride with a stranger. And the people who speak of disappearing in seconds did not do so in plain view of three witnesses who were watching the scene. who are the three? I could understand five (ms sbd ws) but didn't that go to zero? Very confused..
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Chatham, MA
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Dimwitted? Why? Two married couples and one busdriver makes five. If you think that wrong, then you're the dimwitted one.
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Gretzky to Lemieux
Santa Clara, CA
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Following in the footsteps of Michael Jordan, I am coming out of retirement.
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paris
Isanti, MN
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Question for James wrote: "The Attorney General's Office said not all adult missing persons cases are concerning, but given the circumstances, this one is very concerning, and that's why there has been an ongoing criminal investigation.
They said that while it's possible that Maura Murray is still out there somewhere, it's not very likely." WMUR Yes, and didn't they put out a BOLO right away-only to say maybe Fred was driving- BOLO #2 was an updated description of MM
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paris
Isanti, MN
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..........someone knows.......... ..........the all seeing eye..........
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text>
And another layer to the problem. Many people "watching" assume normal methods of egress such as roads. So what happens with these "watchers"? They look up and the person is not there anymore. What do they do? They look up the road and down the road, with a quick head look. What if that isn't the route the person took? They just disappeared. Guess what, some people don't use the road to escape. Sometimes their plan, if they have one, doesn't have a logical end. People who panic, and I do think to a large degree Maura was panicked at this stage. Have very short term goals, such as getting away. To where doesn't matter. How to get there isn't important. They just don't want to be caught there.
Like you said though. Taking your eyes off of them for a few seconds and they "disappear". I have mentioned before, watch how fast a jogger can "disappear" down a road. Typically it takes seconds. And of course I am using the imperial "you". You know this, I am talking to those that don't.
Bill exactly. points well made. i am also quite serious when i add that looking for a toddler...calling out...panic....only to find he / she is right in the same room, but perhaps in a corner or hidden by blankets while silently watching mom's anxiety level soar!
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According to RO, that truck with temp plates that had previously been eyeing her, ~ and police, (no matter the order), but RO states she saw them both go down the same road that goes on to pass the weathered barn.
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paris
Isanti, MN
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That's just about 1 minute of driving, is all. Witness says she just saw "Maura" 1-2 minutes prior The other saw walking around the car and lots of activity at the trunk. If the MA temp plated truck went by first, he/she/they, could wait around the corner where, GUESS WHAT? Someone claims they saw a truck just sitting
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paris
Isanti, MN
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I say the truck drove by first and Smith was finally on the right road, not switwater circle or whatever it's called, like he had the trouble with earlier in his pursuit. Maybe refer to Weepers post about that. Might not matter though.
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Insanity rules
Concord, NH
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NO BOLO was put out right away.....! Dropped the ball on this one for sure. NO SEARCH that night east of Bradley Hill rd.
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Insanity rules
Concord, NH
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Smith was lost that night and he admitted it. He was probably very close by with his pants around his ankles and shagging a 17 yr old girl. This is why it took him that long to get to the scene.
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Insanity rules
Concord, NH
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Just ask Claude Moulton.
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Insanity rules
Concord, NH
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RENNER. You really like to defame people with NO REAL PROOF. You are a sadistic person. Taking traits from gramps are ya?
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backspace4me
Weare, NH
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The questions that has always bothered me and and has never been answered is: #1..WHO reported seeing the police suv #001 nose to nose with Maura's car? #2..Which police officer drove this #001suv and why has this not been explained? Why the big mystery?
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Since: Nov 08
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Insanity rules wrote: NO BOLO was put out right away.....! Dropped the ball on this one for sure. NO SEARCH that night east of Bradley Hill rd. I can't help but laugh thinking here we are ten years later and some still think that this is what happens when someone leaves an accident scene. Especially when there is evidence of them drinking on the scene. I have seen more than my fair share of accidents and many of them clearly the result of alcohol. Sometimes we find them, and when we do they are impaired, and the police later determine it to be alcohol or drugs. Many want to lay blame and for whatever reason, personal in some cases, they want it to be the police's fault. The personal responsibility for what happened for that night lays entirely on Maura for running from the scene. More blame to go around to perps, if any where involved after the fact. But, and I point this out as a warning to others. Stay with your vehicle after an accident. I promise you, helicopters aren't going to be swarming the area looking for you. Search teams aren't going to be out looking for you. Satellite aren't going to be re-routed to find you. Police aren't going to be setting up roadblocks to find you. You are responsible for you. I don't think Maura is an idiot. She took a calculated risk in a panicked state and it is likely she lost. Maura's case is typical and I teach these three possibilities to many classes. There is a glass someone has placed at the edge of the table. There are three possible outcomes with a simple mistake of the movement of the glass. First, it is knocked off the edge of the table and I catch it before it hits the floor. Second, it hits the floor and I get to clean up the mess. And third and my personal favorite, I move the glass so it doesn't get knocked off the table. Maura likely ventured into the first or second possibility. Staying with the car would have been the best option, the third option. Bill
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Insanity rules
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text>
I can't help but laugh thinking here we are ten years later and some still think that this is what happens when someone leaves an accident scene. Especially when there is evidence of them drinking on the scene. I have seen more than my fair share of accidents and many of them clearly the result of alcohol. Sometimes we find them, and when we do they are impaired, and the police later determine it to be alcohol or drugs.
Many want to lay blame and for whatever reason, personal in some cases, they want it to be the police's fault. The personal responsibility for what happened for that night lays entirely on Maura for running from the scene. More blame to go around to perps, if any where involved after the fact. But, and I point this out as a warning to others. Stay with your vehicle after an accident. I promise you, helicopters aren't going to be swarming the area looking for you. Search teams aren't going to be out looking for you. Satellite aren't going to be re-routed to find you. Police aren't going to be setting up roadblocks to find you. You are responsible for you. I don't think Maura is an idiot. She took a calculated risk in a panicked state and it is likely she lost.
Maura's case is typical and I teach these three possibilities to many classes. There is a glass someone has placed at the edge of the table. There are three possible outcomes with a simple mistake of the movement of the glass. First, it is knocked off the edge of the table and I catch it before it hits the floor. Second, it hits the floor and I get to clean up the mess. And third and my personal favorite, I move the glass so it doesn't get knocked off the table. Maura likely ventured into the first or second possibility. Staying with the car would have been the best option, the third option.
Bill Bill, I forgot You are always right. You have Your opinion and I have mine. STOP berating people Mr. right. LOL
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