Maura Murray

I think it's safe to say that there are some here that are working very hard to find out some poster's identities. They befriend people and gain their trust in order to gather personal information. Don't be fooled!
These people have no conscience and only care about themselves.
There's a newer poster that has been messaging people and leaving an email link to reply back. Once you reply back with an email he has your email address and you could be traced.
As I've said before you don't know who's on the other side of your monitor.
Be smart and stay safe!

Wowzer, that doesn't make sense. Be vigilant. Don't be paranoid.

STOP THE MADNESS wrote:

STFU YOU CRETIN.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU SLANDERED?
HOW MUCH BULLSHIT HAVE YOU TOLD OTHER PEOPLE
TOO MUCH. NO WONDER YOUR CONFUSED.
WELL IM HERE TO PROTECT THESE PEOPLE FROM YOU.
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE GUMPTION TO STAND UP AGAINST WANTON BULLSHIT?

"Sadly I have checked with NHSP/HPD/GCSD none know a DC and
from your rants are glad they don't! Does it come easy having such
an EGO or do you practice at it daily?"

http://findmauramurray.fr.yuku.com/reply/2119...

"LE obtained my first 3 posts from the Websleuths forum better than 4 yrs. ago and they are part of the investigation and in the Murray case files. This is part of the info released to Fred Murray through the FOIA. If LE went as far as taking my posts and making them part of the investigation I find it hard to believe that they don't know my identity. NHSP does know my identity, but because this is an ongoing investigation that info cannot be released.

My posts at Websleuths contained theories of "What happened to Maura" as well as "The LE procedure that night" Why do we suppose this was of such interest to LE, maybe because something in those posts are close to the TRUTH or are the TRUTH. Of course they were released to Fred Murray so maybe not.

I called the Murray Family in March of 2004 and offered my help in finding Maura and was told they would get back to me. Also after calling the family I was visited by NHSP and told to stay away from the Murrays. They fed them a lie about me using EXCESSIVE FORCE when I was with the LPD. This is not true and my LE records prove that. If it was true I never would have recieved my PI License. So why did LE want me to stay away? I think that is pretty clear at this point. LE does not like big waves or tsunami's because it rocks the boat."

Does it make sense NOW people?

Lady Vanishes wrote:

Wowzer, that doesn't make sense. Be vigilant. Don't be paranoid.

How funny I just received a PM saying I was being paranoid.
When someone fairly new to the forum says they have computer expertise and are receiving email headers from another self proclaimed computer expert and that these headers will be traced I don't think that is being paranoid at all.
Some posters have been here for a long time and IMHO they deserve to know that they should have their guard up and be "vigilant".
This crap of trying to find out posters identities or locations need to stop. If anyone needs to be checked out I'm sure the authorities will do just that as it should be. It's not up to other posters to do it!

Wolfi Wolf wrote:

Does it make sense NOW people?

Feb 21 09 2:50 PM

Why I am Here
From: White Wash
To: Detective Columbo
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Credentialing
ADDITIONAL RESPONSE BY DET C -- MOVED FROM PREVIOUS TOPIC BY ADMIN

I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about but I don't know the situation. He's probably looking at the header to get the person's ip. That's not enough to identify a person. At most he'll narrow down your location to a handful of towns. If you're worried about it, use GMail.

The person has the same first name as WTH? I don't know why he wants to talk to people but if he plans to identify people by email headers he's not the expert he says he is..

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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How funny I just received a PM saying I was being paranoid.
When someone fairly new to the forum says they have computer expertise and are receiving email headers from another self proclaimed computer expert and that these headers will be traced I don't think that is being paranoid at all.
Some posters have been here for a long time and IMHO they deserve to know that they should have their guard up and be "vigilant".
This crap of trying to find out posters identities or locations need to stop. If anyone needs to be checked out I'm sure the authorities will do just that as it should be. It's not up to other posters to do it!

Are you talking about "Billy Vanderbilt" who asked Sam, me and a few others to contact him? I never did, just as I have never messaged/emailed with anybody involved with this case. Just wondering.

Oh, and you're not being paranoid at all.

Lady Vanishes wrote:

I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about but I don't know the situation. He's probably looking at the header to get the person's ip. That's not enough to identify a person. At most he'll narrow down your location to a handful of towns. If you're worried about it, use GMail.

I'm not worried. I didn't email him. I only message through Topix. He's looking for more than the IP.

Maruchan wrote:

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Are you talking about "Billy Vanderbilt" who asked Sam, me and a few others to contact him? I never did, just as I have never messaged/emailed with anybody involved with this case. Just wondering.

Yes. I think he might be working with a few of them now.

Maruchan wrote:

Oh, and you're not being paranoid at all.

I know. Even though he thinks I am.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Yes. I think he might be working with a few of them now.

Thanks. If you received a pm from this person, it would be helpful if you would copy it here so people know exactly what this "secret" hunt is and who is being targeted.

Interesting afternoon chat....

John

"All I am trying to do is acquire technical evidence which
>> the authorities can use. I have a good start from the email headers I have
>> received but I need people to trace them to. A location is only as good as a
>> suspect in that location."

I have been lurking around Maura's case for several years but have only recently began talking to people around this case. I am now working on attempting to find out who threatened xxxx, xxxx and others. xxxx has given me a number of email headers which I am currently working on extracting information from.

I know you have been a longtime contributor to Maura's disappearance and was hoping you might have some input or an opinion as to who you think might be the person harassing others. I am not looking to out anyone. I am simply trying to gather evidence which will be given to the proper authorities who are already working on this.

Wowzer says: If the authorities are already working on it then why would a poster want to involve themselves. I'm sure the authorities would not want a strange poster on an internet forum tracking down other posters. Many things he said didn't make sense.
I took out the names but the whole gist of it is that he's trying to find the people that have been harassing and threatening a small group of people.
There's more but no sense going into it. I don't believe he's just been lurking here for years and decided all of a sudden to offer his assistance in tracking down posters that may or may not be guilty of God knows what.

well isn t that something else?

what do the xxxxs stand 4?

'who threatened *Sam Ledyard*,*John Green* and others.?xxxx? has given me a number of email headers'
Who, pray tell, gave Billy boy my info?? Was it.. Sam.. or was it John??

receiving email headers from another self proclaimed computer expert

I solved the puzzle!! Sam and John gave the headers of my e-mails to Benji who enlisted Billy!