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BaCkStaBber Benji pretended to care aBout m3 <<
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Mar 18, 2014
 
tHis must be what Jimbo meant by >>cRowd sourCing<<
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I want to smoke what he smokes...
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
"All I am trying to do is acquire technical evidence which
>> the authorities can use. I have a good start from the email headers I have
>> received but I need people to trace them to. A location is only as good as a
>> suspect in that location."
I have been lurking around Maura's case for several years but have only recently began talking to people around this case. I am now working on attempting to find out who threatened xxxx, xxxx and others. xxxx has given me a number of email headers which I am currently working on extracting information from.
I know you have been a longtime contributor to Maura's disappearance and was hoping you might have some input or an opinion as to who you think might be the person harassing others. I am not looking to out anyone. I am simply trying to gather evidence which will be given to the proper authorities who are already working on this.
Wowzer says: If the authorities are already working on it then why would a poster want to involve themselves. I'm sure the authorities would not want a strange poster on an internet forum tracking down other posters. Many things he said didn't make sense.
I took out the names but the whole gist of it is that he's trying to find the people that have been harassing and threatening a small group of people.
There's more but no sense going into it. I don't believe he's just been lurking here for years and decided all of a sudden to offer his assistance in tracking down posters that may or may not be guilty of God knows what.
Thank you for sharing this, Wowzer.

Here is Billy Vanderbilt's first post just to put this info together:
Billy Vanderbilt wrote:
Hello.
I am Billy Vanderbilt. I am a long time lurker. Over the course of the last few days I have been reaching out to individuals who have posted about Maura's case. There are still several people I am trying to get in touch with.
Alden Olson
Maruchan
Samuel Ledyard
John Green
JWB
James Leone
Fred Leatherman
Advocate
I have already emailed half of you but have yet to receive a response. Those of you who I have emailed have my real name and my real email address. I would appreciate it greatly if you would email me back.
Those of you on this list who I have not emailed please send this account a message.
Thank you.
Billy
I'll have to look into this later, but thanks for letting those of us who don't have registered accounts know this was going on. I sure hope the person giving email addresses with this person isn't a cheap seater.
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petrit vasi wrote:
BaCkStaBber Benji pretended to care aBout m3 <<
Most Heartbreaking Lyric: "Just gonna stand there and watch me burn?/ That's alright because I like the way it hurts / Just gonna stand there and hear me cry? That's alright because I love the way you lie."

There, there, pomkik.
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I'm really worried about how Benji and pomkik are handling thier breakup. It's SOOOoOOOoOoOOoo sad.
Most Heartbreaking Lyric: "Once upon a time I was falling in love./ Now I'm only falling apart./ There's nothing I can do / total eclipse of the heart."

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Sure is warming up in here.
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I wonder if this is what is really going on here.
Maruchan wrote:
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I always think that this is one of the strangest and funniest things I see people do surrounding this case. They come to Topix to insult us - typical trolling activity, with absolutely no provocation. None whatsoever. And they are always so high and mighty too, soooo superior as they bash us. It kinda makes laugh. Out loud.:)
Anyway, I'm pretty sure that SGG is Shelly from Sam's blog. A newbie since November, she decided early on, for who knows what reason, to try to figure out who Topix posters are:
"Shelly says:
January 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM
Good work Sam. I hope you get to the bottom of it. A couple of weeks ago, I went on some of the other sites, like Topix and started to make a list of the key commenters and other handles that I could link together as being the same people. I also wanted to see who was buying into what theories. My next task was going to look at all the posts that have had some pretty big,“non-factual” claims and see if I could connect anything. I then realized that I really should read this blog and Renners in it’s entirety. Needless to say, it’s been time consuming. I’m about 90% through the posts, but haven’t even really looked at the documents. I only heard about this case this past November. Anyway, seems like you are doing some great work. I don’t have any legal experience and I’ve never been called a genius, but I am great at research. Let me know if I can help."
Tyler approves of her hunting down Topix posters:
"Tyler from Pittsburgh says:
January 13, 2014 at 10:35 PM
Hi Shelly ...
Your list of posters who you think could be behind the same handles is interesting. Have you completed it?"
"Shelly says:
January 15, 2014 at 12:47 PM
Hi Tyler,
Thanks for the response. I haven’t completed my list yet, was side tracked with these two blogs that I have finally finished reading. I will get back to it, although it may have no meaning whatsoever!!"
I just find this ... strange. And trollish. And kind of pathetic.
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Sure is warming up in here.
Just the smoke coming off the dry ice.

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Wowzer -- a few comments. I never contacted "Billy Vanderbilt" and he or she has never, to my knowledge, contacted me. I have been communicating with Ben. I strongly believe that, if he was in contact with either John Green or "Billy Vanderbilt," he would have mentioned it to me. Whoever Billy Vanderbilt is, he is most likely lying.
But let's pretend that John Green and I saw through our differences and Ben decided to identify pomkik for us so he decided to contact this "Billy" person. How would that indicate a desire to identify Topix posters? I assume that you have never made death threats. So why would you take it personally?

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Maruchan wrote:
I wonder if this is what is really going on here.
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Interesting. I dunno. She's trying to tie monikers together but this Billy is trying to trace the email headers to real people with the help of someone that's done something like this before. This whole thing is NUTS! Great job Maruchan.

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My theory: "Billy Vanderbilt" is supposed to be like "Ben Franklin." Just like "wolfser" is supposed to be "wormser" and "Wolfi" is supposed to be "Skunki."

Now, that's all conjecture. But it makes much more sense than some conspiracy directed to unmasking Wowzer.

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Wowzer -- a few comments. I never contacted "Billy Vanderbilt" and he or she has never, to my knowledge, contacted me. I have been communicating with Ben. I strongly believe that, if he was in contact with either John Green or "Billy Vanderbilt," he would have mentioned it to me. Whoever Billy Vanderbilt is, he is most likely lying.
But let's pretend that John Green and I saw through our differences and Ben decided to identify pomkik for us so he decided to contact this "Billy" person. How would that indicate a desire to identify Topix posters? I assume that you have never made death threats. So why would you take it personally?
You're right that I've never made death threats. And I think it is very wrong! I don't take it personally. I do however think that when someone sends me a message and states that they are working with someone to trace names from responses to an email address that they provided that the posters should be made aware of what's going on. Have you talked to your other friend? Supposedly he's the one that gave Billy the headers from Ben.
I was trying to be nice and not mention names. Guess I didn't have to worry.

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Not Without Peril wrote:
My theory: "Billy Vanderbilt" is supposed to be like "Ben Franklin." Just like "wolfser" is supposed to be "wormser" and "Wolfi" is supposed to be "Skunki."
Now, that's all conjecture. But it makes much more sense than some conspiracy directed to unmasking Wowzer.
No one tried to unmask me. Good try!
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Not Without Peril wrote:
But let's pretend that John Green and I saw through our differences ...
Did you?
Not Without Peril wrote:
But it makes much more sense than some conspiracy directed to unmasking Wowzer.
I didn't see anywhere that Wowzer said she was the person that "Billy Vanderbilt" was trying to "unmask." From the PM she posted, Billy could be after anybody that posts on Topix.

The moment I read "Billy Vanderbilt's" first post, I thought that he/she was trying to do just what Wowzer said - trying to con people into giving him/her their email addresses to find out their identity. Because it happened right after Renner's big push to out me as Leslie, and the fact that he seems to have been interested in finding out my identity for quite a while now, I wondered if he was behind it. I have no clue, but I didn't buy the "long time lurker" bit either, and I didn't like how "Billy" was being so secretive about what his/her interest was in contacting posters.

Again, after having so many people trying to out Topix posters identities, I don't believe Wowzer is being paranoid at all. I'm grateful she shared this info with us - although I am not at all trusting, others might be, depending on the story "Billy" gives them. They might think they are helping somebody when the intent is to harm.

I hope that if others have also communicated with Billy, they will share it with us here. I would be particularly interested if any other PMs were worded the same as the one Wowzer received.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Have you talked to your other friend? Supposedly he's the one that gave Billy the headers from Ben.
I was trying to be nice and not mention names. Guess I didn't have to worry.
Are you referring to Green or Tyler or somebody else?

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Maruchan wrote:
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Are you referring to Green or Tyler or somebody else?
QUESTIONS Questions questions. Would You like My email addy.?

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Sorry Maruchan....lost My head for a second there.

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Not Without Peril wrote:
Wowzer -- a few comments. I never contacted "Billy Vanderbilt" and he or she has never, to my knowledge, contacted me. I have been communicating with Ben. I strongly believe that, if he was in contact with either John Green or "Billy Vanderbilt," he would have mentioned it to me. Whoever Billy Vanderbilt is, he is most likely lying.
But let's pretend that John Green and I saw through our differences and Ben decided to identify pomkik for us so he decided to contact this "Billy" person. How would that indicate a desire to identify Topix posters? I assume that you have never made death threats. So why would you take it personally?
Did you read the messages from Billy that I posted before? You are able to fill in the blanks. The person you're not mentioning seems to have been the go between for the email headers between Ben and Billy. I'm not a squeal cat though so I'm not telling.

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Maruchan wrote:
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Are you referring to Green or Tyler or somebody else?
Not Green

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