Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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oo00oo wrote: <quoted text>(partial quote) Aaaahhh, the "May" wedding. How persistent some were in stating this as fact. Speaking of persistent, whatever happened to Firecat? She is oddly absent. AWOL be careful what you wish for! lol
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Lauren
North Falmouth, MA
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just me wrote: Shit so if you want to fight, keep going.......... No thank you. I don't want to fight. I'm a grown up. I prefer to discuss rather than fight. Wow did I ever push the wrong button. Your little rage attack was very attractive. Not.
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Lauren
North Falmouth, MA
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just me wrote: Right now I really feel the need to say that there's no taking away the glory from Beth. People just do things they ought not, and sometimes they get called on it. Helena was encouraged to bring this mystery person in contact with one of the many PI's. Didn't work out too well. Can we stop now? because I have no beef with you. Sure. No problem.
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just me
Minneapolis, MN
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Lauren wrote: <quoted text> No thank you. I don't want to fight. I'm a grown up. I prefer to discuss rather than fight. Wow did I ever push the wrong button. Your little rage attack was very attractive. Not. You were a bit on the rough side, it's how I interpreted it at least, and maybe I'm defensive because of things I cannot and will not say. When I said you don't need to know more than I'm reading here, I didn't mean you as in you. It was plural, for everyone, anyone....because I am not at liberty to go into more detail. I did say I'm sorry and I do mean it.
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just me
Minneapolis, MN
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I see you've posted and I think i feel better now. Truce.
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Lauren
North Falmouth, MA
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Wowzer the real one wrote: <quoted text> I think there's much more to the story concerning Beth that we don't know. Thinking back there were a couple of very strange things that happened that left me shaking my head. One concerned a doll head. I think you are right. Doll head? I admit I didn't read every word Beth posted.
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hannah_b
Sweden
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Wowzer the real one wrote: <quoted text> I think there's much more to the story concerning Beth that we don't know. Thinking back there were a couple of very strange things that happened that left me shaking my head. One concerned a doll head. What´s with the doll head? Never heard of that?
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just me
Minneapolis, MN
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In all my haste, I went right past the spitting in faces part. If true and you were there to see it, it sure complicates things. I'm so confused. It's like things are heating up and Maybe you do have a valid point. My bad.
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Lauren
North Falmouth, MA
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just me wrote: I see you've posted and I think i feel better now. Truce. I agree. Truce.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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just me wrote: In all fairness, Beth may have been like a breath of fresh air in the beginning too. She really did alot to search for Maura and spent alot of her free time going around and around asking questions, checking on leads, and countless hours online too, and all for free or little help. I mean she'd get gas cards and phone cards and lodging, but I know she spent above and beyond that kind of help. Even went to a garage sale at Mr Atwoods house, in cognito, or so she said, and truck stops. She said losing her voice wasa good thing in a way because people thought maybe she was deaf. She had to write everything down, even requests for cigarettes, because people couldn't understand her when she spoke. Anything to try and hear talk of Maura. I was just let down when i found out she was not who she "said" she was. Then again, I admit once again she DID let me think whatever I wanted to think by not correcting me. I was also disappointed to learn she was never in the army from her parents. wow. to think this family would choose such a person, a non-professional, to help find a needle in a haystack. NH and VT people are private with a capital P. i really have to wonder what the heck Fred Murray was doing all this time while Helena was managing forums and interfacing with the public, the PIs were chasing their tails around, and Beth was incognito...and possibly at risk. unless i'm mistaken, M's siblings took a back seat after the initial searches, and didn't appear with Fred and Billy at an early national interview. it's just odd....to have such active, online forums and yet leave them to the care of strangers from the under the big top. in most cases of the disappeared, some turned homicides, the parent(s) is/are front and center. the last media interview i was aware of was a one-on-one with Helena. where's the father?
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hannah_b
Sweden
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"34 Users are viewing the Franconia Forum right now"
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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just me wrote: <quoted text>You were a bit on the rough side, it's how I interpreted it at least, and maybe I'm defensive because of things I cannot and will not say. When I said you don't need to know more than I'm reading here, I didn't mean you as in you. It was plural, for everyone, anyone....because I am not at liberty to go into more detail. I did say I'm sorry and I do mean it. never, ever pushing for any more than you want to share, just me.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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Lauren wrote: <quoted text> Beth may have altered her resume,(like for instance Firefraud calling herself a college professor) but the fact remains Beth worked her ass off to help the Murray family find Maura, She used her time , energy, effort and money. And the thanks she gets???? After she is dead and cannot defend herself Helena implies she is a stalker? A Murray family characteristic? Fred attacked the two pro bono PIs who donated their time , energy and effort, when in fact, a simple thank you from Fred would have been more appropriate. And how about NHLE and all the hard work they did and all the taxpayers' money expended? Do they get a thank you? I think not. Fred vilified NHSP. I have the impression Beth was an armchair detective, came up with some info which someone didn't want revealed and so Murray and Co. turned against her. sounds right. the pattern is unmistakable...ask, receive, condemn and clobber. then deny that any harm was done to the public. we can only imagine the pain of a missing relative....but at some point, usually early on, you put down the weapons and sincerely appeal to law enforcement and the public for their help. and mean it.
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hannah_b
Sweden
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38 and counting... Guess word is getting around.
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oo00oo
Tucson, AZ
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Wowzer the real one wrote: <quoted text> I think she's still here either under a different name or just lurking. Could be wrong though. Her tongue must be bleeding from biting it,if she is just lurking. I always wondered if she was R.S.
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citigirl
Brockton, MA
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"i really have to wonder what the heck Fred Murray was doing all this time while Helena was managing forums and interfacing with the public," He was out searching for his daughter
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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citigirl wrote: "i really have to wonder what the heck Fred Murray was doing all this time while Helena was managing forums and interfacing with the public," He was out searching for his daughter uuhhhh, i anticipated that answer. the problem is that it has been very difficult to know where to look....from Amherst to NH or Canada and beyond. it would be one thing if Helena were the point person....but very odd and confusing to have a posse that disseminates misinformation.
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citigirl
Brockton, MA
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text> uuhhhh, i anticipated that answer. the problem is that it has been very difficult to know where to look....from Amherst to NH or Canada and beyond. it would be one thing if Helena were the point person....but very odd and confusing to have a posse that disseminates misinformation. you are correct it has been very difficult to know where to look. Like its been said its like finding a needle in a haystack. I have never given out misinformation.
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“"Dancing with wolves"”
Since: Oct 10
Location hidden
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Please wait...
Snowy wrote: <quoted text> sounds right. the pattern is unmistakable...ask, receive, condemn and clobber. then deny that any harm was done to the public. we can only imagine the pain of a missing relative....but at some point, usually early on, you put down the weapons and sincerely appeal to law enforcement and the public for their help. and mean it. Snowy wrote:***the pattern is unmistakable...ask, receive, condemn and clobber. then deny that any harm was done to the public*** You sure hit the nail on the head.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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citigirl wrote: <quoted text> you are correct it has been very difficult to know where to look. Like its been said its like finding a needle in a haystack. I have never given out misinformation. no, i don't believe you have.
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