Maura Murray

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>footprints according to this neighbor not tracks.

I should have been more specific I meant footprints. From what I recall reading the so called mystery prints were behind the contractors home. I go behind my house all the time so for me what constitutes mysterious or unusual? Sadly many references have been made without fact or specifics which in ANY investigation is crucial otherwise the clue is hearsay at best.

These so called mystery prints, it would have helped had the person taken pictures and called authorities. I mean its rare today for someone not to have either a phone that takes pics or a digital camera. Problem with prints is they aren't pristine for long, but could still possibly be of help.

Warning Shack is loose wrote:

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Look who slithered out from under her rock, just in time for Halloween.
Citigirl, this is your opportunity to tell Shack how you were "welcomed with open arms" by the locals.

Yes citigirl please tell shack how nice and helpful the locals were. And while you're at it feel free to tell her that she was wrong in calling us illiterate, rats in a nest and that we should all be sprayed with Lysol and.....that is not attacking her. That is just telling her that what she said was wrong about the kind people that helped you when you came here searching.
What shack did was attacking the locals for years. Now is your time to tell her she was wrong. Waiting with baited breath.

NHwoodshome wrote:

Am I missing something, I keep reading references to the Londonderry ping. I realize this seems to be fact, BUT the relevance seems to be way overblown. It could have been ANYONE or ANY company calling...

Good point about the call possibly not being from a person but a company. It's well-documented that Maura was looking for a place to stay up there, maybe she was getting a call back. If she left a false name, it's not likely she could be connected to a no-show reservation.

kitten wrote:

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Good point about the call possibly not being from a person but a company. It's well-documented that Maura was looking for a place to stay up there, maybe she was getting a call back. If she left a false name, it's not likely she could be connected to a no-show reservation.

Londonderry is a good 80 miles south from lincoln and even further to Bartlett where she called inquiring about a condo. In order for a cell to ping a tower it must be within a 20 mile radious so it is doubtful it was someone calling her back regarding a reservation

renner has a new post up

The one thing that still stands out for me to this day is when Fred first met with police he stated " I hope she didn't do the old squaw walk" then the family goes on the offensive when suicide is mentioned.
That statement is telling me Fred may have known more about Maura's state of mind when she left Amherst than later interviews reveal. Something made Fred think of the possibility.

This is an absurd statement to make if you truly feel so confident suicide wasn't a possible. I just don't think all the cards are on the table. Do I think its something sinister related to Fred, NO.

Some people view suicide as a horrible stigma, it could be as simple as that. In Fred's case after Maura wrecked his car, fingers would ( and were ) pointed at him with accusations of pushing her over the edge and worse! I don't believe this to be the case, but in light of the posts I've seen I can't blame him for backing away from the statement.

I see Fred as a man tormented with grief and frustration, and I do feel sympathetic toward him. I cannot imagine what he's been through and continues to relive every day. I fear he will pass a broken man.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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WTF is CCU supposed to mean? Anyone? More code speak from you know who.
Bill

Which is how NHSP refers to the unit on its website, which you've made abundantly clear that you disrespect because of its inclusion of two maps. You really don't like the NHSP CCU, do you, Bill?

jwb wrote:

renner has a new post up

I very seriously doubt that Chris King can or will contribute anything useful. He was, perhaps still is, utterly convinced that a local harmed her, because that local is his particular cause.

Sorry, that was me, and the name means nothing in this context.

sophia the original wrote:

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I very seriously doubt that Chris King can or will contribute anything useful. He was, perhaps still is, utterly convinced that a local harmed her, because that local is his particular cause.

I couldn't agree more!!

let's fix what's stupid:

citigirl writes at post 5336 -

"Haverhill was all new to me in 04. I had never been up that way until after Maura disappeared and. I dont live in a town I live in a city not far from Boston. Where I live is very congested and there are no open areas. Iam not posting from Norton Ma. I have no idea where Norton is. If you look at my other postings they have said Bridgewater,New Bedford as to which I dont live near either of these areas. I believe it probably has something to do with the internet carrier."

the genius at 3AM EST / post 5342 writes -

"Citigirl...don't let the previous posters try to confuse you...Maura disappeared in Haverhill, NH...
NOT Haverhill, MA.
I do recognize that you cannot understand a population of 10K within a land area of 51K.
I remember offering my "big acre and a half" for a
search and was ignored. Critter prints, I can only identify if before sun melts.
Glad you clarified Laurie was never physically able to make it North. I remain optimistic that
Maura's fate will be solved through CCU."

let's see....i now understand you are cluelessly posting from locations in MA that are unfamiliar to you.
Shack chimes in at 3AM EST to clarify, 7+ years later, that somehow, but for the grace of God, you and your sister avoided searching for MM in the wrong state.
oh, and please, don't let us silly posters confuse you about anything. Shack will set you straight.
same game, new name....Tag Team Stupid.

i'm sticking with Dawn's research and conclusion made in conjunction with a telcom systems engineer. there was no call.

SB and NHwoods - i agree, and share your disappointment. initially, renner had some original research going by way of personal interviews with individuals in Maura's circle of relationships.
for the first time he was able to supply interested readers with verified, factual information.
ideally, he'd continue to do his homework, and not begin the slide to cheap and easy speculation that is fed to him by another blogger. however, as history has proven, the predicted outcome may not be favorable.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Yes citigirl please tell shack how nice and helpful the locals were. And while you're at it feel free to tell her that she was wrong in calling us illiterate, rats in a nest and that we should all be sprayed with Lysol and.....that is not attacking her. That is just telling her that what she said was wrong about the kind people that helped you when you came here searching.
What shack did was attacking the locals for years. Now is your time to tell her she was wrong. Waiting with baited breath.

Wow, sure glad I didn't wait around today for you to stand up for those helpful locals and tell their biggest attacker that she was wrong. Please don't insult me any further with your talk about how much you told everyone how wonderful, helpful and open armed the locals were while all the while you helped enable the bashing against them by saying nothing.
I'll repeat what I said in an earlier post. You did NOTHING to stand up for the people that were trying to help you find Maura.

shack wrote:

Citigirl...don't let the previous posters try to confuse you...Maura disappeared in Haverhill, NH...
NOT Haverhill, MA.
I do recognize that you cannot understand a population of 10K within a land area of 51K.
I remember offering my "big acre and a half" for a
search and was ignored. Critter prints, I can only identify if before sun melts.
Glad you clarified Laurie was never physically able to make it North. I remain optimistic that
Maura's fate will be solved through CCU.

Wow, you have absolutely no shame. What do you have to say about citigirl telling everyone how nice, helpful and open armed the locals are while for years you have disrespected them, accused them and said horrible things about them. Got anything to say for yourself shack? Your head should be hung in shame.

sophie bean wrote:

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Which is how NHSP refers to the unit on its website, which you've made abundantly clear that you disrespect because of its inclusion of two maps. You really don't like the NHSP CCU, do you, Bill?

Jesus SB. You really can't keep anyone straight, can you? I haven't said a word about any map(s).

Bill

sophia the original wrote:

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I very seriously doubt that Chris King can or will contribute anything useful. He was, perhaps still is, utterly convinced that a local harmed her, because that local is his particular cause.

Bingo! You got it. I'm hoping Renner won't allow his blog to be taken over by anyone with other agendas or allow the use of his blog for advertising other sites/blogs.

Crazy theory that has been visited before but in light of more and more personal information about MM becoming available is worth another shot: What if Maura planned all of this in order to runaway with someone new she met? The looking up cabins, making up excuses, not telling her family, packing up her stuff. What if it was all done to make everyone believe she was going away for a while when infact she was leaving for good? The carcrash did mess up her original plans but it didn't stop her from continuing on foot to wherever she was heading. Maybe Maura's emotional state and rather irrational behaviour weeks and days leading up to her dissapearance was due to the fact that she was struggling with the decision to start a new life and cut all ties to her old life?

I just seems so unlikely that a predator would pass by in that short window of time when MM was most vunerable. Even if she ran away and succumbed to the elements somebody should have found something by now. I'm starting to think MM planned to run away and start a new life with someone how would help her create a new identity. After all, there are several cases where people have stayed missing voluntarily for years and years, some even using their real names which proves it can be done. Why not Maura? Just throwing it out there..

so, here's a post on MM is Missing FB page from a thinking individual:

Robin Ann Barron
"I have to say that I don't understand wanting public assistance to solve Maura's case while also only permitting certain possibilities to be discussed. If Maura chose to run away for whatever reaosn and has started a new life elsewhere, that is her business. I hope that doesn't sound harsh. If Maura was a vicitim of a crime, an investigation had to look at all possibilities and all information - and if LE is doing the investiagtion, they WILL find all relevant information. There is no information that Mr. Renner has found which could not be found by LE. If the intention is to limit inquiry in any particular way, I don't see how it can help to find out what happened to Maura.
October 18 at 5:12pm"

Snowy wrote:

so, here's a post on MM is Missing FB page from a thinking individual:
Robin Ann Barron
"I have to say that I don't understand wanting public assistance to solve Maura's case while also only permitting certain possibilities to be discussed. If Maura chose to run away for whatever reaosn and has started a new life elsewhere, that is her business. I hope that doesn't sound harsh. If Maura was a vicitim of a crime, an investigation had to look at all possibilities and all information - and if LE is doing the investiagtion, they WILL find all relevant information. There is no information that Mr. Renner has found which could not be found by LE. If the intention is to limit inquiry in any particular way, I don't see how it can help to find out what happened to Maura.
October 18 at 5:12pm"

Robin consistently makes good points on the MMM forum, but all the thinking individuals on the MMM facebook page are ignored. Helena dismisses out of hand any talk of Maura's time at UMass & who she was potentially seeing, as though she personally kept tabs on Maura's interactions on a campus of 20,000 people. Drinking the kool aid is required.

Was that you who replied to me on FB yesterday? I'm still trying to figure out who's who, this forum is much more populated than Amherst. I thought Shack was a man, for crying out loud.:)