Maura Murray

Snowy wrote:

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you know, i might have thought you are suzanne....reappearing as lauren. i've changed my mind. your very eager, defensive, pro-renner cheerleading is not particularly convincing no matter how often you repeat your partial theory. there is no proof that she was or was not accompanied by someone, met with someone, or travelled parallel with someone to NH. it's plausible, yes, but not convincing without proof.

Oooooooohhhh. Poor Snowy. I saw that coming a mile away. Adolescent female jealousy. You turned on me just exactly as you turned on Kitten. If poor little Snowy isn't the center of attention and the voice of wisdom that everyone has to look up to and kowtow to, then poor little Snowy gets all pouty. How old are you? 14? Why don't you just grow up? You come on as the voice of wisdom and then every now and then you have your little childish tantrum where you have to attack some innocent person who has never done anything wrong to you. It has happened so many times it is getting old, really old and so very predictable. Your personal attack on me is identical to what you did to Kitten. I'll say to you what you said to Kitten: "Keep it classy, Lassie". Who talks that way? I think I maybe heard my grandmother say that once.

Snowy wrote:

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there is no proof that she was or was not accompanied by someone, met with someone, or travelled parallel with someone to NH. it's plausible, yes, but not convincing without proof.

I don't need proof. I am not under oath and this is not a court of law. This is an OPINION forum. Can you understand that? An OPINION forum. It means that people share their opinions. OK? You got that? My opinion is that I like Renner, I think Maura is alive, and I think she met up with someone in NH. OK? You got that? It's an opinion. Too many attacks by you on innocent people and you could lose your credibility. And maybe you should go to the TOT. I think you need time out to calm down, collect your thoughts, and not take this forum so seriously. You have been on this forum every day for how many years now? Maybe you should take a breather.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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kitten wrote:**Citigirl, as I recall, the first police report is just about the accident because they didn't consider Maura a missing person yet. There has been more than one, and to more than one different law enforcement agency. Don't be insulting, I haven't done anything to deserve it. I have viewed the same one as you have, which is not the only one there is.**
She said she saw the same one you did so I posted another NHpolice accident report.Don't get your panties in a wad over it for heavens sake. You sure don't have any trouble contridicting people but you sure do have trouble answering questions that are asked of you.

Thanks for helping clarify. I should say though, that I'm having a hard time finding the one Citi is referring to now-- it's been posted around before in various places. I was *99%* sure that all the reports out there mentioned the booze, but I could be wrong. I'd like to fact-check what Citigirl is saying. I'm still looking, we should compare the two.

Can you scan it, Citi? In all seriousness, I am not mocking you.

Lauren wrote:

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Oooooooohhhh. Poor Snowy. I saw that coming a mile away. Adolescent female jealousy. You turned on me just exactly as you turned on Kitten. If poor little Snowy isn't the center of attention and the voice of wisdom that everyone has to look up to and kowtow to, then poor little Snowy gets all pouty. How old are you? 14? Why don't you just grow up? You come on as the voice of wisdom and then every now and then you have your little childish tantrum where you have to attack some innocent person who has never done anything wrong to you. It has happened so many times it is getting old, really old and so very predictable. Your personal attack on me is identical to what you did to Kitten. I'll say to you what you said to Kitten: "Keep it classy, Lassie". Who talks that way? I think I maybe heard my grandmother say that once.

much whining and silliness.
by comparison, Suzanne is mature, and can make an intelligent and compelling argument and response.
the more you rant, the more you reveal a single-minded focus.
i think we can judge renner's book on our own terms.

The only documents I am finding online are accident reports, so I was mistaken in saying 'police' report. If Citi has that and would like to share it, that would be kind of her.

That said I will be more careful with my semantics. The police filed both reports, but I can only find the accident report, not the police report Citi claims to have.

Lauren wrote:

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I don't need proof. I am not under oath and this is not a court of law. This is an OPINION forum. Can you understand that? An OPINION forum. It means that people share their opinions. OK? You got that? My opinion is that I like Renner, I think Maura is alive, and I think she met up with someone in NH. OK? You got that? It's an opinion. Too many attacks by you on innocent people and you could lose your credibility. And maybe you should go to the TOT. I think you need time out to calm down, collect your thoughts, and not take this forum so seriously. You have been on this forum every day for how many years now? Maybe you should take a breather.

sorry to inform....but your opinion is not original. this could take 20-30 years...how do you like your popcorn?

kitten wrote:

The only documents I am finding online are accident reports, so I was mistaken in saying 'police' report. If Citi has that and would like to share it, that would be kind of her.
That said I will be more careful with my semantics. The police filed both reports, but I can only find the accident report, not the police report Citi claims to have.

I took a look at the website. The first document is the accident report. If you continue to scroll down that is the police report as to the time the accident occured etc. I have this same report.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I took a look at the website. The first document is the accident report. If you continue to scroll down that is the police report as to the time the accident occured etc. I have this same report.

there are also other calls on this report for that night that LE was sent to which had nothing to do with Maura.

Snowy wrote:

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much whining and silliness.
by comparison, Suzanne is mature, and can make an intelligent and compelling argument and response.
the more you rant, the more you reveal a single-minded focus.
i think we can judge renner's book on our own terms.

I've been called Suzanne and I consider it a compliment. Maybe I am Suzanne???? I would recommend you judge Renner's book after you read it and not criticize him or his writing of it. You cannot stand anyone disagreeing with you, you feel threatened. You became anti-ping when I became pro-ping. Infantile. You often disagree with people for no reason other than you feel you need to assert yourself and set yourself up as the sage of this little tiny microcosm that we call a forum. A small stage you have to work on, if you need to do this, have at it, carry on as you have been.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I took a look at the website. The first document is the accident report. If you continue to scroll down that is the police report as to the time the accident occured etc. I have this same report.

So what you're saying is, you didn't look at what I was talking about before you said I was wrong.:/ Sigh.

Bedtime for bonzo.

Lauren wrote:

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I've been called Suzanne and I consider it a compliment. Maybe I am Suzanne???? I would recommend you judge Renner's book after you read it and not criticize him or his writing of it. You cannot stand anyone disagreeing with you, you feel threatened. You became anti-ping when I became pro-ping. Infantile. You often disagree with people for no reason other than you feel you need to assert yourself and set yourself up as the sage of this little tiny microcosm that we call a forum. A small stage you have to work on, if you need to do this, have at it, carry on as you have been.

i don't need to be right; nor do i force my opinion on others.
your defense of renner is unnecessary; folks will judge for themselves the value and content of his work by the content of his blog.
i trust Dawn's conclusion about the "ping" after her consult with a telecom engineer.
it's past my bedtime. good nite, oh pleasant one.

Snowy wrote:

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Suzanne is mature, and can make an intelligent and compelling argument and response.

Funny you should say that! You attacked Suzanne too. When you decided that she had gotten too big for her boots. I'll say this for you, you are consistent. Your pattern is firmly in place and as I said before, very predictable.

Snowy wrote:

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i don't need to be right; nor do i force my opinion on others.
your defense of renner is unnecessary; folks will judge for themselves the value and content of his work by the content of his blog.
i trust Dawn's conclusion about the "ping" after her consult with a telecom engineer.
it's past my bedtime. good nite, oh pleasant one.

Yeah, Dawn asked the guy in the next cubicle over. As I said I like Dawn but how the heck do you know who she asked? You want to believe Dawn over a Sprint representative testifying under oath to the NH State Police about a Sprint cell tower located in Londonderry NH. The man was risking being charged with perjury if he lied. It matters not to me. This is a free country. Believe who you want to believe. I think everyone on this forum should believe exactly what they want to believe. It's an opinion forum, not indoctrination.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>there are also other calls on this report for that night that LE was sent to which had nothing to do with Maura.

Where are you looking Citigirl. If it's the link I provided the only thing I'm seeing besides the accident report is the dispatcher's report under it. I'm not seeing any police report so can you add a link to it?

P.S. An afterthought before this subject is closed. Dawn worked for Verizon. The tower in Londonderry is Sprint. It has been verified by another poster on this forum that Sprint and Verizon cell towers work differently. Good night.

Just a suggestion. Anytime you verify a fact or statement by saying "I read it in a newspaper" or "someone posted it it on another forum, blog, etc", the accuracy of that fact or statement is questionable at best.

This is still an active investigation, whatever documents are out there now represent probably less than 10% of the total documents and evidence that exist. Trying to form opinions based on that small a view of the evidence is guesswork at best.

FrmLE wrote:

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Yes I am sure. Where? Everywhere, type IP Proxy into google.

thanks i found it, see?

FrmLE wrote:

Just a suggestion. Anytime you verify a fact or statement by saying "I read it in a newspaper" or "someone posted it it on another forum, blog, etc", the accuracy of that fact or statement is questionable at best.
This is still an active investigation, whatever documents are out there now represent probably less than 10% of the total documents and evidence that exist. Trying to form opinions based on that small a view of the evidence is guesswork at best.

absolutely; well stated; thank you.

Lauren wrote:

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Those are pretty strong words. Have you read Renner's previous books? Renner posted the bank account story, he didn't write it and yet you say "I am leary of Renner, especially the whole bank account story." I haven't seen him say anything about the bank account story, just that he would check it out. I won't judge his book until I have read it. It's best not to dis a book until u have read it. I hope he makes a profit, he's doing a lot of hard work.

Fact is backed up by material such as paperwork and it isn't fact when there's no PROOF! Anyone could tell this guy, hey I work in a bank and here's what I saw. I saw Elvis yesterday so that means HE LIVES!

I have a distinct distrust of people when $$$$ is involved. While Renner has done some work, a good author backs up what he says with Affidavits or solid evidence. We get a lot of heresay from Mr. Renner, while it may be true but as the old TV commercial went, " Where's the beef!" I do think Renner has done some homework but I also think its possible he's being baited. Authors have been known to embellish and jump to conclusions.

Sensationalism sells and the mainstream media is living proof of it. I also feel IF the bank account story was true wouldn't LE cold case unit check it out? Doing so would save the state resources on a cold case if they discovered her alive and well.

Just like the original Woodstock, if EVERYONE who claims to have been there was it may have numbered millions! People want to be important and sometimes witness's and people with information inject themselves into these things with fabrications.

When it comes to mysteries like Maura, many seem to believe what they want despite lack of proof. The only real proof we the public have since the accidnt is, she is missing.

When