Maura Murray

sophie bean wrote:

and lest we forget, "Mason" pretty much if not explicitly accused FM of murdering Maura. I'm more than a little surprised and disgusted if I'm the only one who finds that accusation sickening and insane. But read "Mason's" FB page, and you'll get an idea of his mentality, far beyond paranoid.

Sophie, can you link to the FB page? I'm curious, and a search returns many Fred Leathermans.

sophie bean wrote:

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Um, excuse me? Where did I EVER say that "the family has trashed the locals"? I've NEVER said such a thing!

You were a big Helena supporter. Helena ran/controlled/was responsible in EVERY way for a forum that trashed the locals. Your post indicates that u still believe the MMM forum did not trash the locals.

sophie bean wrote:

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I think I'd be somewhat reluctant to rely on the "theories" of "Mason aka Fred Leatherman" - at best a writer of fiction / fantasy - at worst? Hard to say.

Mason is writing a book on the universal unconscious and its connection to mythology.

Lauren wrote:

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Mason is writing a book on the universal unconscious and its connection to mythology.

Like flying sausers?

Marty wrote:

<quoted text>Like flying sausers?

No, like Jung.

whiston wrote:

Where did Maura Murray vanish to.

I dont care

hannah_b wrote:

Anyone know if the South Shore Express has taken down the Maura article series by Maribeth Conway? I keep getting a 500 error, saying the page is no longer available.

If you go to the Wikipedia page, the reference links at the end work for the series.

I was reading the phone call log on mr renners Blog and found something interesting. The hanover dispatcher was advising the Haverhill PD that BA house had called 9-11 and the line was busy so they called the household back and spoke to a female who said "her husband saw the crash came here to call, but no idea where the female is.
1) She said he saw the Crash
2) No idea where the female is

why would she say No idea where the female is? where they watching the scene waiting for someone to call the back and witnessed her leaving the car or is it just poor communication from BA to the female?

from Hanson Newspaper article

Maura struggled to get out of her Saturn because the car door was hitting against a snowbank, Atwood recalled when interviewed for this story from his new home in Florida. There was as much as two and a half feet of snow on the ground in the area.

If he saw Maura struggling to get out of the car don't you think he would have helped her or have gone back to the scene or even told his wife that she was stuck in the car.

jwb wrote:

I was reading the phone call log on mr renners Blog and found something interesting. The hanover dispatcher was advising the Haverhill PD that BA house had called 9-11 and the line was busy so they called the household back and spoke to a female who said "her husband saw the crash came here to call, but no idea where the female is.
1) She said he saw the Crash
2) No idea where the female is
why would she say No idea where the female is? where they watching the scene waiting for someone to call the back and witnessed her leaving the car or is it just poor communication from BA to the female?

BA just left the scene and she was in the car behind the wheel and couldn't get out of the car because of the snowbank. One would assume she was still in the car.

The saturn was against the snowbank in front of Marrottes House in front of his Balsam trees. Marrotte would have been able to see the scene pretty well.

Very interesting updates.

http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/

oo00oo wrote:

Very interesting updates.
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/

Wow! Interesting indeed but probably not a big surprise to some.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>Wow! Interesting indeed but probably not a big surprise to some.

Like a lot of what has been uncovered by Renner, it only goes to confirm what some of us here have been speculating. Like Maura´s unusual relationship to her father, which at least once brought a topix thread down.

Wonder if mr Renner would be able to get info on Fred Murray´s work records?

jwb wrote:

from Hanson Newspaper article
Maura struggled to get out of her Saturn because the car door was hitting against a snowbank, Atwood recalled when interviewed for this story from his new home in Florida. There was as much as two and a half feet of snow on the ground in the area.
If he saw Maura struggling to get out of the car don't you think he would have helped her or have gone back to the scene or even told his wife that she was stuck in the car.

There was no where's near 2 1/2 feet of snow on the ground. I looked at the house we eventually bought that week (about 3/4 of a mile from the crash site) and there was grass showing throughout our back yard. It was BRUTALLY cold later that week, but snow was minimal.

hannah_b wrote:

Wonder if mr Renner would be able to get info on Fred Murray´s work records?

That has been a issue for a while. What I find interesting (if true) Is that he left that job shortly after Maura went missing. Don't know how accurate that account is.

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>There was no where's near 2 1/2 feet of snow on the ground. I looked at the house we eventually bought that week (about 3/4 of a mile from the crash site) and there was grass showing throughout our back yard. It was BRUTALLY cold later that week, but snow was minimal.

That came directly from the newspaper article . They were interviewing BA

Looking4AMoose wrote:

<quoted text>There was no where's near 2 1/2 feet of snow on the ground. I looked at the house we eventually bought that week (about 3/4 of a mile from the crash site) and there was grass showing throughout our back yard. It was BRUTALLY cold later that week, but snow was minimal.

I wrote the very last part of that sentence starting with "If he saw" The 2 1/2 feet of snow appears to be from BA. Maybe the plowed snowbank was that high.

jwb wrote:

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I wrote the very last part of that sentence starting with "If he saw" The 2 1/2 feet of snow appears to be from BA. Maybe the plowed snowbank was that high.

The tree from the pictures w/ the blue ribbon looks close enough to the street to have plenty of snow piled there from a plow.

I hadn't considered Fred, ever, as the person Maura was meeting, coming from Eastern MA up 93 & making the call near Londonderry. But it does make sense. After Maura's first accident, didn't Fred rent a car & go to Connecticut for work? Was he home again in Weymouth by Monday, and heading North to meet Maura? He wasn't immediately available to police when they called.

Fred's schedule in those 48 hours will either exonerate him of being the one to meet her in NH or prove it was him.