Maura Murray

MR Renner has my attention. Maura was looking up the effects of drinking on the unborn fetus.
She had been staying with one recently named coach and the poof, it's like she just disappeared. This coach said that Maura had even made mention that she wished she could just disappear. Chris Flynn did, for awhile. Why not Maura? If there's any truth to a baby, Maura may have pulled it all off and is living as a homemaker somewhere.

Sometimes I think Maura had someone in the background she couldn't send away, even though she tried to give it all up for Billy. For Oklahoma, dull, flat, boring Oklahoma, for the sake of loving Billy....because she LOVED him. That's why she dropped the coach and started seeing Billy. That fall Fred, Maura and Billy went hiking.
Some have eluded that Maura still kept seeing someone or at least had to be cordial around them, awkward.

She loved "The Onion" and a movie where people run away from their lives.

So I tend to think that Maura was stewing for a long time, what to do, what to do.......

jwbI wrote:

I found the info on Laurie's diagnosis was in sept of 2004 so that wasn't the reason for the crying as Just me had said.

Sometimes a definitive diagnosis takes months... You go to your doctor who says "it doesn't look so great" ... you break an ankle ... you daughter disappears and by the time you see the oncologist and the pathology comes back it's September.

Last thought for now.
CS asked if she had shown at the Cottage.....yet.
Hmmmmm

Frostman wrote:

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I had a roommate in university who was never there, she lived with her boyfriend and her parents were none the wiser. She came to pick up her mail once a week. Perhaps MM had a boy on the side at UMass, hence the packed up room. Renner was working on that angle...

Couldn't resist.
Maura was secretive. Everyone has that option. But I still think that of all the time Maura stayed with that coach, early summer to mid?, well, her friends, all they can say is they seriously didn't know what she was thinking. They may be wrong......maybe, in not telling more about their dearly missed friend. But then again maybe they did tell FBI and they are working that angle.

jwb wrote:

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Maybe so, but why would that indicates then that the second car or other crash had nothing to do with Maura.

Taking off for work now but some have offered that Maura could have been run over by someone rounding the corner. I doubt that. That would take one huge effort to cover that up. That and what I said before.....there's a portion of information being kept private from the public sector.
If PI's would just do more than forward information, maybe they could get somewhere. Might be wrong, but every time weeper and detective columbo relay info to us, they say they only forward the info, the samples and they do not know results, or what police do with that info. That's just wrong in my mind. They should all be getting down to boogie.

Is Columbo actually a PI for real? I am not being sarcastic.I just don't know his history.

Just me wrote:

CS asked if she had shown at the Cottage.....yet.
Hmmmmm

"YET"? Implication -- he knew she was being driven there....

Or... a casual question as to whether she'd hitched a ride from a concerned passerby to the local hospital?

jwb wrote:

Is Columbo actually a PI for real? I am not being sarcastic.I just don't know his history.

nothing is "for real" until verified by documents.

“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.”~Benjamin Franklin

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Frostman in the post above snowy says:
**no one said it's an indication of moral character; it was, in fact, a lie....bundled with other uncharacteristic behaviors that have lead to MM's own disappearance.**
You can't change what it was and that was a flat out lie.
FYI I love all my family and would never under any curcumstances say that one of them died as an excuse for anything.

i concur. no excuses for the lie uttered and recorded.

Gott im Himmel! Not the "dearly departed Auntie Maisie in Bangor" euphemism again.

"Snowy" ... thought you were off getting a Ph.D. in cyber penmanship analysis. Or playing on-line Scrabble or "Words With Friends"?

Frostman wrote:

Gott im Himmel! Not the "dearly departed Auntie Maisie in Bangor" euphemism again.
"Snowy" ... thought you were off getting a Ph.D. in cyber penmanship analysis. Or playing on-line Scrabble or "Words With Friends"?

nah.
just being Snowy, Frosty.

jwb wrote:

If The saturn did clip the westmans snowbank and then spun to the other side where (CS) said it hit trees. One would think that there would be more damage to the front bumber. looks like mostly hood and headlight damage.

2-3 years ago a Saturn about like Maura's rear-ended me a traffic light in Hadley MA (N. Maple & Russell). Her car's bumper was plastic, my truck bumper was steel. My bumper's damage? Medium dent, total replacement. Her bumper's damage? Zip. Except for hardly discernible scratches near her front plate.

Was she a friend of Count Zinzendorf?

Snowy wrote:

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nothing is "for real" until verified by documents.
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.”~Benjamin Franklin

let me phrase it a different way. Does Columbo present himself to be a pi?

What about the re-appearance of the four empires - Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, and Roman - which herald the return of Christ?

What about the FOUR SIXES, Tony?

jwb wrote:

Is Columbo actually a PI for real? I am not being sarcastic.I just don't know his history.

He works for Rick Santorum.

Just me wrote:

<quoted text>Taking off for work now but some have offered that Maura could have been run over by someone rounding the corner. I doubt that. That would take one huge effort to cover that up. That and what I said before.....there's a portion of information being kept private from the public sector.
If PI's would just do more than forward information, maybe they could get somewhere. Might be wrong, but every time weeper and detective columbo relay info to us, they say they only forward the info, the samples and they do not know results, or what police do with that info. That's just wrong in my mind. They should all be getting down to boogie.

Just me am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying that two private detectives (Columbo and Weeper) that have been working on the MM case is sending/forwarding information to a small select group of people while keeping the information private from the public and the posters here? Sure doesn't sound professional to me.
Hey Columbo, got any tidbits you would like to share with the Topix public sector or do we need to grow webbed feet and feathers first?

Interestingly, Det. Columbo made a recent statement about the Holly Piirainen case.

A couple of days later, the Hampden County MA DA's office announced what they think might be a turning point in the investigation.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/03/possibl...

jwb wrote:

Is Columbo actually a PI for real? I am not being sarcastic.I just don't know his history.

He claims to be but we've never seen any kind of proof to verify it. I have my doubts.

Snowy wrote:

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nothing is "for real" until verified by documents.
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.”~Benjamin Franklin

Both are very true.