Maura Murray

Frostman wrote:

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I don't think she'd try to get there on foot after the car crash, but it could explain why she was on that road. If she had an AAA map perhaps it looked as if that route was easier. If she had Googled the route to either Bethlehem or Bartlett it would take her up I-91 and then east on I-93. Unless she changed her plans in mid-trip or was beginning to have car trouble and decided to get off the Interstate.
There was a family press conference made from Bethlehem perhaps because it was close to where the car was towed? It was hannah_b who posted about the possible Bethlehem connection.
One could speculate that the Stowe and Bartlett condo calls were an intentional red herring so that if anyone came looking they wouldn't find her where she really was going with a paramour? Or alone? Or to self inflict harm upon herself? Purely conjecture though.

just me wrote:

NOT SO POSTED.....in part
And this in July 04: "Scarinza also said when Murray left Massachusetts, she had with her a box of wine, and bottles of vodka, Kahlua and Bailey's Irish Cream.
The box of wine, most of which had spilled, was found in the car. Some of the other bottles were not found...
How do they know she had the bottles when she left MA? She may have dropped that stuff off when she went back to campus. Because she went back to campus according to the confusing timeline. It's reported that Maura went to the ATM and Liq BEFORE she was seen leaving campus in her car. In fact, that part isn't even clear. They mostly say she was seen leaving campus around 4, by a fellow dorm mate.
And what do they mean SOME of the bottles were gone? They were ALL gone. The wine was all that was there.

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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FrmLE,
I believe it highly likely that Maura could have got into a passing vehicle provided she actually knew the person driving that vehicle. One reason why she declined Mr Atwood´s offer of help might be that she was expecting someone known to her to come along in a vehicle at any moment.

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"She was just 200 yards down the road when [police] got there, two minutes worth," he said. "All they had to do is go grab her and they didn't. If they did, she'd be here with me now."
Fred Murray has been critical of state investigators because he believes they didn't look for his daughter quickly enough and were slow to follow up on leads. They aren't telling him what they're doing, he said, or if any progress has been made.

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aftermath wrote:

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Bumping for Maura,
She believed the person who stopped by to be trustworthy. Maura had been on foot, heading in the direction from which her travel companion would be arriving. Another vehicle stopped by first, however, and Maura for whatever reason felt safe to accept this offer of assistance. For some reason she felt compelled to get into this vehicle? The person who had been in separate vehicle (red truck-MA plates), who had been accompanying Maura on her trip, had possibly even seen Maura get into that vehicle. The driver of the red truck may have slowed down, but passed by. Maura's travel companion had not stopped because he did not want to be identified, did not wish to risk this. After all, this is why he and Maura had been driving separate vehicles (in case of an accident, to avoid being identified as together). Chances are great that he loitered in the area because he expected her to return/be returned to the Saturn under normal circumstances and the two could continue their journey. The driver of the red truck waited around, drove around, loitered...waiting for Maura to return. Thus, several reports of a "red truck, with MA plates, in the area). Maura never returned. His reason for never coming forward may be two-fold. He may not have wanted his relationship with Maura to be public knowledge; 2) he had seen the vehicle Maura had entered and concluded he has three valid reasons to not come forth with information: 1)embarrassment 2)a lot to lose and
3)fear for at least two reasons: he may be blamed for her disappearance; he can identify her abductor.

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jwb wrote:

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aftermath, It might be helpful to state if you are speculating or you hold information

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aftermath wrote:

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jwb,
So now you are confronted with the unknown and feeling the frustration that Maura's father has experienced in his efforts to find his daughter. If it's consolation you seek, you may wish to read Beagle's Post #2, dated March 29, 2009:
"One of the strangest things about the disappearance of Maura Murray is the lack of publicly available information. In sharp contrast to other disappearances, almost no information has been released by law enforcement (LE)."

aftermath wrote:

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Bumping for Maura,
She believed the person who stopped by to be trustworthy. Maura had been on foot, heading in the direction from which her travel companion would be arriving. Another vehicle stopped by first, however, and Maura for whatever reason felt safe to accept this offer of assistance. For some reason she felt compelled to get into this vehicle? The person who had been in separate vehicle (red truck-MA plates), who had been accompanying Maura on her trip, had possibly even seen Maura get into that vehicle. The driver of the red truck may have slowed down, but passed by. Maura's travel companion had not stopped because he did not want to be identified, did not wish to risk this. After all, this is why he and Maura had been driving separate vehicles (in case of an accident, to avoid being identified as together). Chances are great that he loitered in the area because he expected her to return/be returned to the Saturn under normal circumstances and the two could continue their journey. The driver of the red truck waited around, drove around, loitered...waiting for Maura to return. Thus, several reports of a "red truck, with MA plates, in the area). Maura never returned. His reason for never coming forward may be two-fold. He may not have wanted his relationship with Maura to be public knowledge; 2) he had seen the vehicle Maura had entered and concluded he has three valid reasons to not come forth with information: 1)embarrassment 2)a lot to lose and
3)fear for at least two reasons: he may be blamed for her disappearance; he can identify her abductor.

FrmLE wrote:

WHo thinks it is likely Sophie? Can you refer to the post where someone says it is likely she was abducted?
I think it is possible, though not likely. Also remember, there are many factors in this case that make an abduction much less possible than would be in a normal situation. Namely the possible window of opportunity as well as Maura's very erratic behavior.
But we have been over this many many times, so hey you believe whatever you wish to believe! No one can prove you wrong and you can't prove you are right, absent finding Maura or her body.
Believe away, it's cool with me. Whatever makes you happy.

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whitenoise wrote:

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window of opportunity .... was like a nanosecond? no problem if it was all preplanned, but unlikely for a murderous maniac to just happen along at that very moment.

aftermath wrote:

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jwb,
So now you are confronted with the unknown and feeling the frustration that Maura's father has experienced in his efforts to find his daughter. If it's consolation you seek, you may wish to read Beagle's Post #2, dated March 29, 2009:
"One of the strangest things about the disappearance of Maura Murray is the lack of publicly available information. In sharp contrast to other disappearances, almost no information has been released by law enforcement (LE)."

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just me wrote:

and also, not so:
Fred did call ahead stating he had something imperative to say to police.
Sharon witnessed and repeated that Fred said oh no, I hope she isn't doing the old squaw walk, like he might when he got old.....go off to the mountains and drink himself to sleep. Not accurate enough to quote, but most of us have read all this before. Scarznia said alot of people come to the mountains to.....and commented on the book. I wouldn't call him a liar (like Sharon and Fred did). Who knows what Fred had to say in that urgent call before he got there, or if he decided to keep it all in. Sure, he may have just blurted that story out, I know I might, being jumpy and all in troubled times..

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just me wrote:

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Does anyone else recall MMM people saying that Maura had gone to a clinical and had to borrow "scrubs"? NO, it turned out NOT to be scrubs.....it was a warmer coat of sorts for Maura to wear seeing as how they were stranded somewhere overnight. So IF Maura borrowed a coat, why did MMM always say it was scrubs until somehow, someway they spoke up to that it was a "coat" after all.
They poo-poo'd this saying, oh. Maura got a phone call (or made it) to that person she did clinicals with. She was merely returning the scrubs the day she took off to NH.