Maura Murray

just me wrote:

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Oh come on, whatever. Do you really think you needed to post that just then or what?
If you're trying to help, this is not one of the ways. And if you're implying that I'm a suck up, you're way off. I will admit to anything. I am honest as each thing comes to light within me and not afraid to say so. It makes me unpopular with some, but I'm too old to care what people think of me. Wait, I'll take that back. I'm always ready and willing to explain myself or what I meant, oh well, you might know what I mean....

yep. authentic...honest...no fence sitting. older is definitely wiser. affirmed.

jwb wrote:

new Renner post up. very strange indeed

fodder for the gristmill. spare us the blood you may taste by systematically tearing apart his lyrics. he's no mellencamp, but totally representative of the creative types in northern NH.

Oh Bill,
You, my friend, do not know this guy. Believe me. Don't let the mask fool you. His antisocial & narcissistic ways are not always seen for what they are. Don't allow his charmin', guitar-playin, singin' ways fool ya, Bill. He may have fooled them...but not everyone. He's off the chart in terms of creativity... Only one of the many reasons LE is baffled?

aftermath wrote:

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Bill,
Finally...they're heading in the direction of Fairlee. About time? Actually, before reaching Fairlee? Easily accessible area. Remote. They are singin', If I were a carpenter, and you were a lady, would.......... What? Are they insane? Really? Maybe he was only tryin' to hammer a little sense into all of his ..........

aftermath, was that area in vermont?what was up with the flower petals thrown into the water.

I can´t help feeling genuinely sorry for the construction worker RF,whose name is now being dragged through the mud.
It doesn´t help that Mr Renner is repeating (rightly, I believe)his previous assertion:
"Forget about RF".
The damage is still there, unfortunately.

renner makes a statement "Would he really have picked Maura up just to drive her 100 feet down the road to his trailer? No. Also, his trailer was later searched by police after he sold it."

who is to say she was picked up at the intersection and not further down the road towards 116? Who is to say she wasn't taken somewhere else besides a trailer? Not blaming anyone or pointing fingers, but I would bet that LE can't even rule anything out at this point.

police searched his trailer so are they blaming the Locals?Just exploring all avenues.

I think some of you have an over exaggerated view of topix. If I was a betting man (lady) I would say that the audience is a very small one. The harm that may have been caused to someone came from names appearing in newspaper articles etc...

Snowy wrote:

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fodder for the gristmill. spare us the blood you may taste by systematically tearing apart his lyrics. he's no mellencamp, but totally representative of the creative types in northern NH.

I never said anything about lyrics. You need to read before you post. I only said "strange indeed" and I stick to it.

jwb wrote:

I think some of you have an over exaggerated view of topix. If I was a betting man (lady) I would say that the audience is a very small one. The harm that may have been caused to someone came from names appearing in newspaper articles etc...

jwb,
I was actually primarily referring to the James Renner MM blog in this context.

Bumping for Maura wrote:

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jwb,
I was actually primarily referring to the James Renner MM blog in this context.

I wasn't referring to you bumping. I agree that I think Mr Renner has done more harm to locals and others than has topix. I only see questions being asked here and not accusations.

renner statement: "Anyway, here's a music video from Forcier. Just another example of the strange and cool characters you're likely to meet in the North Country."

Strange characters ?

aftermath wrote:

Oh Bill,
You, my friend, do not know this guy. Believe me. Don't let the mask fool you. His antisocial & narcissistic ways are not always seen for what they are. Don't allow his charmin', guitar-playin, singin' ways fool ya, Bill. He may have fooled them...but not everyone. He's off the chart in terms of creativity... Only one of the many reasons LE is baffled?

here we go....buckle up little piggies....we've got a picture, musical lyrics and some youtube action to add to the name and blame game. oh, albino? someone has sunlight in their eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Bumping for Maura wrote:

I can´t help feeling genuinely sorry for the construction worker RF,whose name is now being dragged through the mud.
It doesn´t help that Mr Renner is repeating (rightly, I believe)his previous assertion:
"Forget about RF".
The damage is still there, unfortunately.

wow. this is the greatest moral consideration in all of these discussions, and imo, demands much attention.

Frostman wrote:

A tryst (allegedly) gone wrong. No apparent sign of a struggle. No need to call AAA, thank you. SAR dog(s) lose the scent. No signs in nearby woods. MA plates on a truck. Maybe an accident thrown in?
Mr. Renner has proposed this possibly from the get-go. If that's what happened, go JR! Suss out the truth.

Frostman,
DID Mr. R, lean toward this theory right from the start? If so, wonder why? Unaware of this. From all accounts, for some reason, it seemed the contractor was ruled out as a suspect right from the start? So it's bizarre why stories are continuing to pop up about him? Mr. R must have some reason why he's continuing to consider(?) this guy in the running? This sounds like a long shot. The guy moved away, SBD moved away? Sounds like they were hounded by public? Maybe? Does anyone recall the name of the woman (found dead); her body was in the vicinity of the A-frame? Right there in the same neighborhood/vicinity? Maybe it's the Ammonoosuc Triangle? Frostman, this wasn't a tryst gone wrong, was it (body-vicinity-of-A-frame)? I read that Route 112 was a great highway for motorcycles....maybe not the best place for solo female night riders?

jwb wrote:

renner makes a statement "Would he really have picked Maura up just to drive her 100 feet down the road to his trailer? No. Also, his trailer was later searched by police after he sold it."
who is to say she was picked up at the intersection and not further down the road towards 116? Who is to say she wasn't taken somewhere else besides a trailer? Not blaming anyone or pointing fingers, but I would bet that LE can't even rule anything out at this point.

jwb,
No Trace/Leave No Trace ....as in camping?...but applied to murder? Isn't this a bit of a long shot? Talk about skills tranfer. Maybe that part where she? was seen running, miles away held some truth? A little bit of truth? Miniscule truth?

I think the name of the women found deceased at the Mtn. Lakes Lodge by the A-Frame was Pauline something. Looking thru My notes now. Another strange case.

John

jwb wrote:

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aftermath, was that area in vermont?what was up with the flower petals thrown into the water.

jwb,
Much too cold for flower petals. My impression is that this guy is more into body lotion. Contact, but no sex. Power.

"Maura thought she may be with child....she was looking into the effects of drinking on an unborn child."

Reasons a confused young woman might drink while suspecting she might be pregnant include:
Decided already not to continue the ppossible or confirmed pregnancy and trying to carry on as normal and/or blot out the issue.
Trying to abort the pregnancy
Already convinced drinking had damaged the pregnancy and terrified of being told that's the case when seeking medical confirmation
Negligence and lack of care
Reasons to continue taking birth control pills if you think you might be pregnant?
You don't want to subsequently fall pregnant if you discover it's a false alarm.
Reasons to take birth control pills if a pregnancy has been confirmed?
Absolutely none what so ever.
Find out if she'd been taking that pill regularly and including the day she went missing and you'll find out if she KNEW she was pregnant. I'd like Mr Renner to reveal whether she'd popped that day's pill or those since the tears and trauma. If he knows.

Aftermath......

Her name was Pauline Clark. Very strange circumstances around this case. I have looked into this extensively but w/o much luck. Talk about cold case and very cold clues.

There was one POI but it went nowhere. IT WAS A LOCAL. Just saying.

Bumping for Maura wrote:

I can´t help feeling genuinely sorry for the construction worker RF,whose name is now being dragged through the mud.
It doesn´t help that Mr Renner is repeating (rightly, I believe)his previous assertion:
"Forget about RF".
The damage is still there, unfortunately.

I totally second your post. And how on earth could a supposedly educated woman mistake RF for an ALBINO? I believe RF made the mistake of making the tasteless joke of having her in his freezer, iirc.
I think Renner´s latest post is interesting in that he suggests yet another scenario, one that I recently touched upon myself: Maura meeting whomever she was supposed to meet up with, and that person killed her, accidentally or intentionally. Maybe Maura accidentally overdosed on booze and some pain killer or drug and died, and the other person panicked and got rid of the body. No serial killer, albino or other.