Maura Murray

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jwb wrote:

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5 miles in a half hour = 10 miles per hour it is 16.5 miles from Bradley hill rd to North woodstock. that would be an hour and a half to two hours at that pace. Obviously keeping pace is another story.

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jwb wrote:

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That is a very good possibility. I am very familiar with those frost heaves that you mention and I could see myself taking that route to avoid them.

jwb wrote:

That would be a reason why he may not have seen the police lights etc.. but still doesn't account for the time frame from franconia to where he may have seen maura. The dropping of a friend off just might be the piece of the puzzle but I haven't read that one until today. I am Not saying that it isn't out there.

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Det Columbo wrote:

2/9/04... At 7:54 PM a BOL was put out to all fire units for the victim of a crash.
2/10/04... At 12:21 a BOL was put out for Maura Murray. The BOL was only put out to Haverhill, Littleton and Lisbon.
2 Questions;
#1. Why was the BOL only put out to these towns when the driver of the vehicle was headed east towards Lincoln?
#2. Why in the BOL narrative is Maura's DOB listed but the description is based apparently on the interview w/ Officer Cashin.
They had not talked to anyone from Mass. by this time so....HOW did they know Maura's DOB. Umass had not even been contacted by that time as they were waiting for Fred Murray to call.
No blaming here.. Just trying to figure out how they knew.
John

Det Columbo wrote:

2/9/04... At 7:54 PM a BOL was put out to all fire units for the victim of a crash.
2/10/04... At 12:21 a BOL was put out for Maura Murray. The BOL was only put out to Haverhill, Littleton and Lisbon.
2 Questions;
#1. Why was the BOL only put out to these towns when the driver of the vehicle was headed east towards Lincoln?
#2. Why in the BOL narrative is Maura's DOB listed but the description is based apparently on the interview w/ Officer Cashin.
They had not talked to anyone from Mass. by this time so....HOW did they know Maura's DOB. Umass had not even been contacted by that time as they were waiting for Fred Murray to call.
No blaming here.. Just trying to figure out how they knew.
John

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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His trailer sat a little further back than the house does now and there's woods next to it so he would not have had a good view of the accident.
jwb RF was checked out and also his story of seeing her and was believed to be credible by the police. His yard and sheds were searched along with his trailer after it was moved so why are you going on and on about him. It's all been gone over a million times with a fine tooth cone. You can only pick someone apart for so long and then there's nothing left to pick at.
And when there's nothing left to pick at some start picking at another poor innocent person that did nothing wrong.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text> Nope. We're saving that area for you. Will you be searching soon?

Advocate wrote:

Also, the Hadley police report had her Driver License number on it -- the Grafton/Woodsville LE could easily have looked up her MA Driver License and gotten a description of her (height, weight, color hair and eyes).

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Is this video of the quarry supposed to have something to do with the song video?
If it is you have the wrong Mt Misery. Not even close.

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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jwb,
Has it ever been established (on a public forum) what time witness RF actually left Franconia?
Anybody knows for sure?
Thanks.

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mcsmom wrote:

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Duh....

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Det Columbo wrote:

2/9/04... At 7:54 PM a BOL was put out to all fire units for the victim of a crash.
2/10/04... At 12:21 a BOL was put out for Maura Murray. The BOL was only put out to Haverhill, Littleton and Lisbon.
2 Questions;
#1. Why was the BOL only put out to these towns when the driver of the vehicle was headed east towards Lincoln?
#2. Why in the BOL narrative is Maura's DOB listed but the description is based apparently on the interview w/ Officer Cashin.
They had not talked to anyone from Mass. by this time so....HOW did they know Maura's DOB. Umass had not even been contacted by that time as they were waiting for Fred Murray to call.
No blaming here.. Just trying to figure out how they knew.
John

Det Columbo wrote:

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But how would they have known about the Hadley accident? That just seems like a quick connection to Me.
The description was called into GCSD by Officer Cashin. It must have been info gained from Cecil Smith or He went and interviewed Atwood himself.

Advocate wrote:

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IIRC she had paperwork in her car relating to the Hadley accident, paperwork she had to fill out. The Hadley police report of that accident was dated 2/9/04 so possibly she picked the report up when she picked up the other paperwork. The Hadley police report has her DOB on it. And/or she may have already begun to fill out the paperwork and had already written down her DOB there.

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aftermath wrote:

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Bumping for Maura,
The entire scenario has a somewhat bizarre quality. Public info indicates that 3 months? after the accident he states, that he saw someone who might have been Maura running a few miles from the accident scene. At the time he sees this person....and continues to drive toward his home? He must have seen police, tow truck, etc...at the accident scene? Let's pretend that he didn't see anyone...no Saturn, nothing in sight to identify an accident had occurred. What about during the days that followed....flocks of people all over that area...especially the search on Wed a.m. Feb 11. Posters plastered everywhere around Grafton County almost immediately. It was the topic of discussion just about everywhere...stores, diners, wherever anyone gathered. How far did he live from the A-Frame? One body was not that far from the A-Frame... I know some insist that it was not, but fact is that it was not that far from the A-Frame. So we have Ms. Webb's remains over in Franconia, Ms. Chaput's remains at Pinkham Notch, Pauline Clark's body not far from the A-Frame. Let's not forget that there are a lot of other missing people. Before you get wild, Bill, it is possible for someone to transport a body a long distance. Ms. Webb for example was abducted from the eastern NH/ME area and wound up in the Franconia area. Think of all the bodies tossed along I-91... That NH/VT border area has been a busy place as well? Yes.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I take it that the "Duh" was meant for you or else you would have answered my question minus the Duh.
Oh btw, Old Peters Rd is still across from the W's house, kitchen to be exact. It hasn't moved one inch. I've been watching it to be sure it doesn't go anywhere like up the road or something.
And since you didn't believe the photo clearly showing it there's a very nice drawn picture of it on the accident report I believe, showing it right across from #70 which is the house.

Det Columbo wrote:

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But how would they have known about the Hadley accident? That just seems like a quick connection to Me.
The description was called into GCSD by Officer Cashin. It must have been info gained from Cecil Smith or He went and interviewed Atwood himself.